Rorate Caeli

A very interesting blog

A blog on the life, times, and legacy of Dom Aelred Carlyle, an Abbot Extraordinary.

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12 comments:

Athanasius said...

Is this some sort of disgraceful Anglican attempt to subvert an Abbot by cheap innuendo? How has Rorate Caeli sunk so low?

Bryan said...

Many of the comments on that Abbot Extrordinary blog seem to a be about Abbot Cuthbert Brogan the Abbot of Farnborough - they are sly attacks on him and suggestions about his sexual inclinations.

Are you sure you want to promote such a scandal sheet?

Bryan

Bryan said...

I have re-read the "Message from Anson" on this blog and it is pretty clear it is a parody, funny but of a nasty kind against the Abbot of Farnborough.

Please consider removing your link to this scandalous website.

Thanks,

Bryan

LeonG said...

Dom Aelred converted to Roman Catholicism alongside his monks who moved eventually to Gloucestershire at Prinknash. He was a great man but would be heart-broken today with the community he led as Abbot once 40 strong now an aging remnant. This monastic house has been torn by the post-conciliar "openness to the world" policies; ecumenism & interreligous norms including a particular penchant for buddhism and homosexual scandals.

Two bright moments are the addition of The Latin Mass they once routinely celebrated but on Saturday only. Also, due to their small numbers they have had to go back to their old historic hunting lodge abandoning the out of character mausoleum built to house a larger community following the heady optimism after the councils of the 1960s.

This contradicts the blog claiming Prinknash is thriving after Dom Aelred's vision. This is either a fantasy or a fabrication.

Ex Farnborough Novice said...

Anthanasius & Bryan, anyone who knows what is behind the facade presented by the Abbot of Farnborough, particularly former members of the community, know only too well that Abbot Cuthbert Brogan has a lot to answer for. Rorate is doing a service by drawing attention to it. It is time that innocent guests and non-suspecting vocations know the truth.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the other comments. Please remove this post.

Fr. A.M.

London Priest said...

Well if the list of former members of the community is anything to go by, Abbot Cuthbert Brogan has certainly distinguished himself by losing far more vocations that he has kept in his 14 years as superior. He has gained one solemn profession, and he has lost many more: both monks and those who could have been. I wouldn't send a vocation there any more as too many people have been damaged by him.

LeonG said...

I would not send a vocation to Prinknash either.

Anonymous said...

Seems like the Abbot of Farnborough has thrown something of a fit:
http://anotherabbotextraordinary.blogspot.com/2010/11/apology.html

Anonymous said...

As a former Farnborough monk, I have to say that tremendous damage has been done both to the Church and, more seriously, to individuals by the regime at the Abbey. Don't let the 'tat' and Latin Vespers fool you - the place is a catstrophe.

Fr S said...

Rumour has it that the Abbot of Farnborough is not bothered to provide his young monks with any formation whatsoever. Apparently, that young monk from Czechoslovakia is just working there. For all those years that he has been a monk at Farnborough he has not been taught anything - despite all the injunctions of the Canon Law, etc

I remember an article in Daily Mail several years ago - about the Abbot of Farnborough and his ‘new Napoleonic war’. Commenting on Mr. Estrosi’s (a French minister) intention to spend ten minutes in the crypt, Fr Brogan exclaimed, ‘Ten minutes for a silence of 120 years!’ Well, we are talking here dead bodies! After all, it is not that important where the body of Napoleon III is buried – it is the fate of his soul that should be Fr Brogan’s concern. I wonder how he himself is going to make up for all those years of neglect when it comes to the formation of his young monks. I think he actually condemned himself while condemning the French. Only who cares?

Anonymous said...

Fr S, as one lucky enough to escape from Farnborough I have to say that, in my experience, little is done by way of formation. Indeed who is there to do it? The Abbot gads about a lot & in any case is not a good teacher. Look at the Abbey blog, you will see a tiny community (4 professed?) but lots of references to absences from the Abbey.