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The Friday after Thanksgiving Day indult ...



A friendly and tasty reminder that there is a strong argument to be made that there is no required abstinence from meat this Friday.


While always a topic of great discussion, it is a fact that Pope Pius XII granted Americans a dispensation from their Friday abstinence, so that they may enjoy turkey the Friday after Thanksgiving. I say "enjoy" turkey because that is truly the only reason he would have granted it -- the arguments over refrigeration and whether meat would spoil don't hold water since wide-spread, in-home refrigeration (as well as cable TV) actually did exist in the 1950s.

So eat your turkey this Friday and give great thanks to a merciful God for all that we have to be thankful for. And, while you're at it, thank and pray for Pope Pius XII before you dive into that turkey, that he may be canonized a saint soon.

Also, there will be no posting of souls for the Rorate Caeli Purgatorial Society this week. All souls sent in will be posted next week.

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14 comments:

Long-Skirts said...

Myfamily is getting ready to go to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in a few minutes at our School Chapel (another Latin Mass is going to be confected on our Chapel's main altar) Once again 2 of my sons are serving. Afterwards donuts, coffee and our Chapels/School's Father, son football game on the school field while I go back home to work on our Thanksgiving Feast!
I will pray for all on this list at Mass and offer up my Communion for you on this American Thanksgiving Day, God bless all...

THE
THANKING
DAY

With prayer, I start the Thanking Day,
At dawn, I kneel, Te Deum, pray.
I dress for Mass then wake a son.
He'll serve the priest, a chosen one.

A hushed low Mass right after Matins,
Our Lord above all sons' gold patens.
He'll lay upon my wicked tongue,
I pray, forgive, amidst, among

Where in the pew with head bowed low,
I give Him thanks 'till time to go
Back to the world with sin, so murky,
But now I've strength...

...to stuff that turkey!!

Adfero said...

God bless you and your wonderful family!

Father Kim said...

That 'indult' no longer applies as abstaining from meat on Fridays may be substituted by some other penance.

Adfero said...

Father Kim, the point made to me, which is the debate here, is that there is no need to do other penance because of the indult. If the indult was never suppressed, then it's still in tact.

Gratias said...

Happy Thanksgiving to all Rorateians.

God bless you.

Adfero said...

Happy Thanksgiving and God bless you and all our readers!

Br. Jason, O.S.S.M. said...

I wonder if this takes into consideration Section V of Paenitimini of Pope Paul VI issued in 1966:

V. All privileges and indults, whether general or particular, are abrogated with these norms, but nothing is changed either regarding the vows of any physical or moral person or regarding the constitutions and rules of any approved religious congregation or institute.

jmgazzoli said...

What about this here from Pope Paul VI's Paenitemini:

V. All privileges and indults, whether general or particular, are abrogated with these norms, but nothing is changed either regarding the vows of any physical or moral person or regarding the constitutions and rules of any approved religious congregation or institute.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_p-vi_apc_19660217_paenitemini_en.html

Adfero said...

Pius XII obviously trumps all post-Concilliar pontiffs, no?

KIDDING!!!

Father Kim said...

Adfero, yes that is correct but you did not make it clear in your post

Adfero said...

Thanks Father, maybe my turkey coma affected my clarity?!

John McFarland said...

I was born in 1944, and I can't recall ever hearing a squeak about the supposed indult, which makes me think it is a canonical urban legend. If it had happened, the news would have spread like wildfire.

In any event, it seems clear that if there was an indult, it's been abrogated.

But unless I'm missing something, there's nothing that stops one from abstaining.

The notion of Pope Pius's giving the indult so that Americans can enjoy their turkey also seems a little odd. After all, abstinence doesn't count for much if you don't enjoy what you're abstaining from.

Adfero said...

McFarland, I'm with my non-traditional inlaws in NYC right now, and they remember the years of Pius XII and eating turkey on Friday, as do many others.

It make seem clear to you that it's been abrogated, but not me. Your reasoning?

And why would an indult to allow a country an extended holiday of feasting be odd? Doesn't seem odd in the least to me for a Church that thrives on local culture and embraces food, family and tradition.

John McFarland said...

Dear Adfero,

Do your in-laws recall any particulars? Do they remember the year? Was it announced from the pulpit and in the diocesan newspaper?

Pope Paul's pronouncement of abrogation seems pretty cut and dried.

I'll eat anything that won't eat me, and I come from and have fathered a family.

As regards secular traditions, those of the old Brooklyn Irish subculture from which I come are long gone, and those of the nation at large are nothing that I can support.

In and of themselves, there is nothing Christian about any of them, and I think that most of us Christians could use a lot more self-denial.