Well there's something you don't see every day.
An image I hope we never see anytime soon.
I thought he ceased to the bishop when he left the Vatican?
No, the content of the declaration (renunciation to the Apostolic See) will enter into effect at 8PM local time.
I am watching Pope Benedict now on the balcony at Castel Gandolfo...Dear Friends,I am happy to be with you ...thank you for your friendship and affection..... Grazie, Buona notte.... I couldn't get it all...too fast he has left the balcony...
I propose to ring the funeral bell at our church at 8pm Roman time. I hope that's not inappropriate?
We just recieved His Holiness last Apostolic Blessing from Castle Gondolpho.
Think of poor old Pope St. Celestine, no doubt he had a donkey, or his own legs. I hope there is no further abdication for another 600 years. +++ Pell today laid out his hopes for the new Pope. It was noticeable that governance and defence of the Church's moral teaching were the two main elements, along with a tighter discipline. I quite like the idea of the young Greek Catholic Ukrainian somebody mentioned.
Thank you so much, Papa. Tu es Petrus. We were truly blessed to have had you as our Peter.
Pastor egregrius:Good for you, I think that's a most appropriate symbol of a passing age ... the age of Pope Benedict XVI that is now complete.
The helicopter stayed low over Rome until it reached the Lateran Basilica, which it flew directly over. Once it cleared the facade it began to ascend.
The role that the SSPX and their supporters have played in the events of today cannot be underestimated. May Our Lord be merciful to all those who have aided and abetted this terrible schism. The penalties they face are severe, the consequences of what they have done have critically weakened an already deeply afflicted Church, and taken away our beloved Papa...
Catherine, you lay the blame of the papal abdictation on the FSSPX?Perhaps you should re-read his comments and angelus's: other factors weighed in on his decision.
Catherine of Siena:This is NOT the time to for divisive comments. Please refrain from argument baiting.
Catherine of Siena: why do you call yourself "Catherine of Siena"?Don't you think it's rather prideful?
I quite like the idea of the young Greek Catholic Ukrainian somebody mentioned.Sviatoslav Shevchuk, the new 42-year old Major Archbishop of the UGCC. (My original suggestion, not that it matters.)Seeing as it has been several centuries since a non-cardinal was elected...it does seem like a long shot. Seeing as there has never been an Eastern Rite Pope since the Schism, even longer. And seeing as he's young enough to have a 40-50 year pontificate...Still, it seems like the out-of-the-box, bold move the Church needs right now. ...That said...Thank you, Papa, for a courageous pontificate.
Thank you for not censoring my comment. Of course, the SSPX schism is not the sole reason that His Holiness resigned, but the pain that the actions of the SSPX have caused him was certainly one of the strongest factors that led to his decision. The refusal of the SSPX to submit to papal authority, and the consequences of their schism for so many souls, and for the Church universal, weighed very, very heavily on this very Holy Pontiff, Benedict XVI - the agony this diabolical rupture has caused him runs very, very deep. It has taken a terrible toll on his health. Spare me your vitriol, please, SSPXers and SSPX sympathizers. This has not been an easy day...
Catherine, let's be clear you're purely speculating. You really have no idea if it was a minor, major or no real factor at all. And let's avoid the word schism, which the Hoy Father never used, to describe the situation which he himself said was an internal matter of the Church. The matter can't be internal if there's schism.
Catherine, And the Curial in-fighting, self-promotion, and child molesting clergy didn't cause him as much agony, just the "schism" of the FSSPX put him over the edge?Nothing like giving the clergy that is destroying the Church inside and out a Hall Pass....I suppose those who were promoting heretical teachings didn't really concern him...talk about living in a glass bubble.
Catherine of Sienna, I empathize with your point of view, but don't even try, they won't see it.
The SSPX are not in schism, Catherine. Repeating false accusations of schism hundreds of times doesn't make the SSPX schismatic. It just makes you a speaker of falsehoods.
One more thing I don't think the SSPX is the only reason that he resigned but it was part of it his brother said so.But for sure not the only reason.But Catherine has a right to have her say, she is not outside the Church the SSPX and their members and sympathizers are.
SSPX sympathizers are now out of the Church too? Wow, I guess Pope Benedict himself was outside of the Church all these years.You know, you can sympathize with something and not completely agree with everything that "something" does.Anyway, although not necessarily applicable to our former Holy Father (B16), many bishops and priests are weary of the SSPX and other traditional practicing Catholics because they accuse them by how they act. You know, constantly giving communion to pro-abort politicians and constantly implying that the jews do not have to convert to Christ (among a wide range of other things) will make one weary because, deep down, they know what they are doing is wrong. The SSPX and others just remind them that that is, objectively, the case.The most attacked group in the Catholic Church, over the last several decades, is clearly the traditionalists camp (SSPX or not). One has to take a deep breath, calm down, and seriously consider why it is that that is the case....non-sspxer
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