Rorate Caeli

From the Closing Liturgy of the Los Angeles Religious Education Congress 2010



The R.E. Congress (more on it here) -- which had a turnout of some 40,000 -- had its own Youtube channel as well, full of similar videos.

One wonders what the Byzantine-Rite Catholic bishops concelebrating the Mass might have been thinking...

108 comments:

  1. That's not my religion.

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  2. This animistic worship-like procession is evidence of the inherent ambiguity of the Novus-Ordo Missae. No matter how reverent it is 'possible' to offer this Mass, messes like this are still possible if not probable! My fellow trads, before our eyes we have tangible proof of the innate superiority of the TLM.

    I am certain that a collective sign emanates from all who watch this video, and anger creeps in as we think of the damage Mahoney has done to the Catholic faith in Los Angeles.

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  3. Anonymous1:19 PM

    O my God! They are not worshiping God, but celebrating themselves... Some years ago Pope Benedict warned about that dangerous abuse.

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  4. It's too early in the morning for torture.

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  5. This "IS NOT" Roman Catholic!.

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  6. Anonymous1:45 PM

    PAGAN GARBAGE.

    THIS IS THE KIND OF JUNK THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH DOES.

    I WONDER IF THEY COPIED IT FROM THOSE LOSERS.

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  7. Anonymous1:48 PM

    What in tarnation was that?!

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  8. As for the Byzantine priests present. Either they were forced to attend or they are conspiring with the progressives to change their own Rite in the future. If the latter is true, I hope the Orthodox Church is watching very closely. You may as well call all forms of unity off. If the latter is true!.

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  9. DM Reed2:04 PM

    Ah, the rotting fruits of Vatican II...

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  10. I wonder if the Congregation for Divine Worship knows about this?

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  11. Anonymous2:05 PM

    A Pope promulgated the Novus Ordo. Don't Catholics have to accept it?

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  12. and no young people dancing with smoking pots... hmmm perhaps a sign that young people aren't interested in this pagan nonsense.

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  13. Looks like a masonic temple, oh wait...

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  14. Trisha2:32 PM

    It actually hurt to watch this video. Thought I left this charade behind in Protestantism - hmm.

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  15. I wonder if the Congregation for Divine Worship knows about this?

    Yes they do. And their repsonse? To do sweet nothing.

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  16. ...
    what the...
    ...

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  17. Anonymous2:54 PM

    Insane, Atheistic, sick in its fake grooviness. What is it in human nature that makes people in a group behave like fools. Born again Amway? This is just a give away to secularists and unbelievers. Just Catholic weaklings!

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  18. Oliver2:57 PM

    The Church of Vatican 2 in expressive mode. Why do its priests ape the whirling dervishes?

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  19. This looks absolutely rediculous. I can tell you from experience in my area that young people are not interested in this non-sense.

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  20. When was the last time the traditional Mass filled an arena?

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  21. It is futile complaining to The Vatican about this genre of liturgy because they support it.

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  22. "I wonder if the Congregation for Divine Worship knows about this?"

    Of course they do & they are favourable to this type of liturgical creativity. The Vatican is as liberal as it always has been since the closing of VII.

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  23. Anonymous3:32 PM

    Utterly Tasteless Liturgical *#^$*#

    These people's normal daily dress clothes must include bright pink vinyl pants, unbuttoned Hawaiian shirts on top of Grateful Dead T-shirts, olive green snake skin cowboy boots, topped off by turquoise ski masks.

    It might not be completely horrific if they could figure out a way doing this rubbish tastefully, but I don't think that is even possible.

    That little pond thing was just screaming for the addition of a statue of Buddha to really accentuate the pagan undertones.

    What a nightmare.

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  24. Pope Benedict's still got a lot of purging to do. These old liberals are going to hold onto their power for some time to come.

    Yes, Byzantine Rite clergy going along with such shenanigans is intolerable. Many Byzantine Catholics are Novus Ordo in different garb (most of their young move away and marry out of it... into the NO) and some are tweaking their services even further in that direction ('Revised Divine Liturgy', altar girls).

    The fourth Anonymous: a Pope did promulgate the actual NO, whose actual text in Latin (not paraphrases) is not a problem even if you don't like the simplifications. That doesn't mean the NO is perfect, ideal or above criticism.

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  25. Anonymous3:39 PM

    D'oh! It's like going to a movie and having to sit thru 10 minutes of dumbing attractions....

    I wish these dancers/prancers/posers would buck up, take the plunge, rent out an artspace, and admit they are performance artists...find a room, put out invites, and see if they can sell tickets or get a grant independent of the Church, rather than forcing it on the Body of Christ, even in advance of His Eucharist.

    I watched with the sound muted, and thought things were looking up until 2/3rds in, I noticed all the clergy beginning to clap. What dat?

    Can't we all get our grooves on outside of Mass?

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  26. Anonymous3:59 PM

    To Anonymous @ 1532,

    At least Buddhists carry themselves with dignity. This is nothing but tacky, banal Baby Boomer self-worship conducted with a few (very few) trappings of the Catholic Church.

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  27. It's so Episcopalian! what more can I say! The only thing lacking are women priests!

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  28. "and no young people dancing with smoking pots... hmmm perhaps a sign that young people aren't interested in this pagan nonsense."

    If you watched closely, there are a lot of young people there. And that is what scares me.

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  29. Anonymous4:15 PM

    1. Don't tell me that Thing that looks like a XXXL pine coffin is a Catholic altar.

    2. Don't even suggest to me that this affront to God is an acceptable liturgy of the Roman Church.

    3. If a person believes that the Congregation for Divine Worship doesn't "know about" this alien presence in the life of the Church, that person needs medication.

    4. If the 40,000 people who participated in this monstrosity are unable, by this time, to discern the wickedness of the programme of "religious education" alive and operating in the American Church, there is, humanly speaking, no hope.

    5. Virgin Mother of God, save us!

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  30. Anonymous4:21 PM

    "The Church of Vatican 2 in expressive mode. Why do its priests ape the whirling dervishes?"

    Fatuous, self-loathing ignorance.

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  31. J.G. Ratkaj4:50 PM

    Many Eastern rite catholics are far away from beeing immune to such rumpus. In my neighbourhood there is, or rather what remained of it, a strong maronite presence. Their services, mostly frequented by retirees, are on no account less banal than the absurd indio-rituals inculturated NOM my bishop presides over in his cathedral.

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  32. Anonymous4:56 PM

    "And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD." (Leviticus 10:1-2)

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  33. Anonymous5:04 PM

    Young Fogey,
    So that means Catholics "have" to accept the NO, right? Put another way, if the NO had NOT been promulgated by a Pope, what are the chances this sort of thing in LA would have happened?

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  34. Anonymous5:06 PM

    Mahoney does whatever he wants. I can't wait until he retires and goes off into the sunset.

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  35. Anonymous5:10 PM

    The presence of Mahoney, still, at the head of that once great archdiocese is perhaps one of the reasons why God is allowing Pope Benedict's name to be dragged (unjustly, to be sure) through the mud even as I write.
    Holy Father, stop being "nice"!

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  36. 'For the sake of His sorroful Passion,have mercy on us & on the whole world'............this is NOT the Holy Mass......but a Wholly Bloody Mess
    Aidan U.K.

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  37. Anonymous5:22 PM

    That's not catholic!

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  38. Anonymous5:22 PM

    This is canonically acceptable,and the FSSPX remain in canonical limbo.
    Wow!

    I am officially confused, again.

    D.P.H.

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  39. I demand that Pope Benedict XVI put an end to this nonsense IMMEDIATELY by sacking those responsible for this outrage.

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  40. Well, this is some kind of show in arena. No Holy Mass (in whatever form) was present there, I am afraid. Interestingly enough, all the deacons were of older generation. Former hippies? Well, sad to say, but all this has nothing to do with catholics, although they still claim to be ones.

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  41. I don't know what to say except this is not a Catholic Mass!

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  42. Adeodatus5:36 PM

    I wonder if these people have any idea how gay and ludicrous they look?

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  43. Anonymous5:38 PM

    "If you watched closely, there are a lot of young people there. And that is what scares me."


    Sed contra, except for the altar gurlz pressed into service, I didn't see any "young people." Just a bunch of middle to old aged hippies. Cf. the Pope's World Youth Day Masses.

    My favorite part, at the end of Closing Ceremonies (12 of 12): the congregation is bolting for the exits well before the end of that snappy ditty at the end. See that a lot every Sunday at the NO.

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  44. Anonymous6:46 PM

    If you go over to CAF, you will there quite a few who are defending this.

    Scary? Yes. The younger generation of Catholics is more than a little scary. Strange mixture of zealots, pharisees, ultra-montanes and sycophants.

    Timothy Mulligan, it's not my religion either. It's best to take refuge elsewhere until Our Lord steps in.

    Delphina

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  45. Anonymous6:49 PM

    To those of us living in Europe this looks like nothing more than American rubbish. Americanism was condemned in the Catholic Church in the late-c19. It should be condemned again. I don't think I have seen anything like this performed by so many deluded fools. There is nothing distinctively Catholic to be seen here. The sooner Mahony retires the better. But what an Augean stable to clear up once he's gone.

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  46. I love how it's "oppressive" to expect people to worship in Latin... but apparently it's "culturally sensitive" to sing some crappy pop song with African lyrics.

    There are SO MANY things that are simply GHASTLY about this that I just don't know what to say or do or think about it.

    I just hope the rumors that Bishop Olmsted is going to be named coadjutor bishop to LA are true.

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  47. M. A.6:56 PM

    Would that Moses might come down from the mountain to scourge and scatter these worshipers of the Golden Self!

    Let me join those in calling for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart! Soon!

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  48. Anonymous7:17 PM

    Three churches were desecrated in Germany. Is it an outcome of the hate campaign against the Church under the pretext of sexual abuse?

    http://www.piusbruderschaft.de/component/content/article/895-untergang-des-abendlandes/3985-kirchenschaendungen-die-frucht-der-von-den-medien-geschuerten-hasswelle

    Thinking about the German tradition I see an analogy to the Reichstag fire or the Roehm-Putsch...

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  49. Anonymous7:32 PM

    This is outrageous. How can this be allowed to happen..This type of Worship is what splits the Catholic Faithful. No one knows what the Catholic Cburch is anymore. She has lost her identity. How can someone go from a Tridentine Mass to this and see the Hermeneutic of Continuity at work? This is ridiculous and unacceptable. It really should be stopped from Rome. It is awful. Thank God I live an the East Coast and can find some semblance of the Catholic Faith. It seems not only geographically, but liturgically we are closer to Rome. I wonder if that plays into it.

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  50. St. Rafael7:35 PM

    That Mass had the very real possibility of being invalid, either in form, matter, or intention. Can anyone with a straight face say those clerics intend what the Church intends?

    That is the scary thing about the Novus Ordo, we have no clue which Novus Ordo Mass is valid and which is not anymore. You can have an orthodox Catholic priest offer a valid Novus ordo Mass in one parish and in the next parish across town, the Novus Ordo Mass is invalid because the priest doesn't believe in transubstantiation.

    No Catholic is required to believe in the Novus Ordo and we can call and work for its repeal. the Novus Ordo Mass was a purely prudential decision of Paul VI done out of governance that in no way infallible or even protected from errror. In fact, Trads do call the Missal of Paul VI an error. The Church has always had the TLM which was never abrogated. It has always remained and will always remain the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church.

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  51. Palad is right: if you look into the crowd, you see all ages, from the very young to the very old. I do not believe this mess can sort itself out without the intervention of authority. However, Rome has other problems right now, even if it did have the intention and the ability to act (not too likely in my opinion).

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  52. irulats8:02 PM

    "Beware lest thou imitate them, after they are destroyed at thy coming in, and lest thou seek after their ceremonies, saying: As these nations have worshipped their gods, so will I also worship."

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  53. I think I'll hurl now!

    Good Lord...what a pathetic lot. This is the new religion of Vatican II in action...

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  54. This should simply be forbidden.

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  55. As one who continues a journey from Protestantism toward Rome, I am quite frankly terrified by things such as this. I have seen this sort of thing flaunted in mainline Protestant denominations, but in the Church that I am growing to love through my reading of the Fathers and others? It makes me want to stay on this side of the Tiber, afraid to swim across.

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  56. Anonymous9:36 PM

    This simply won't be forbidden.

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  57. Anonymous10:13 PM

    ====pure MARDA

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  58. Trisha10:15 PM

    To Magister Christianus:

    Please accept a few words from a former Protestant missionary who "crossed the Tiber" in my senior years - but far better late than never.

    On the world's side of the Tiber there is no hope at all - all is pride, filth, warfare, and death.

    Ah, but on the Church's side of the Tiber may be found humility, purity, peace, and life in Our Lord Jesus Christ and the One, True, Holy, Apostolic, and Catholic Church He founded.

    Yes, sin, the enemies of God, and the smoke of Satan have entered the Church and are busy ripping Her apart - all the more reason to "cross the Tiber" and join in the battle of prayer to help purify and restore the Church.

    The entire Army of God, in heaven and on earch, stand ready to welcome you. I'll be praying for you.

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  59. Anonymous11:32 PM

    Magister Christianus,

    Fear not to cross over, friend. Indeed, to be shocked by video such as this is a healthy thing still, a beautiful sign of life still, here in exile. You may see worse than this once you are safe in the Ark, but feed your interior life with the grace of the immemorial Roman Mass, and you will have no fear. Innumerable things we can neither understand nor explain in this life, and the deviation shown in this video is assuredly among them, but we know Whom we have believed, and He is faithful to keep that which we commit unto Him. I too am a convert, and abysmally poor catechesis necessitated my discovering the heart of the Church in and through the traditional Latin Mass. It's been sixteen years since I've had to witness the self-loathing on display in this film clip, God be praised. I was moved by your comments, Magister Christianus. I and many others here, I'm sure, will pray for you, as we do for ourselves. Be not afriad, friend. Let no taste of suffering obscure for us the Light on the other side of the degredation of this Los Angeles Religious Education Congress party. All-Holy Mother of God, give us strength, patience, and perseverance.
    ~Thomas John

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  60. Anonymous11:38 PM

    The happy clappy bishop is appalling like this whole charade which is a mockery of the Holy Mass.

    The liturgical chaos is extreme : the result of so many years of Abp Mahony.

    O lord have mercy on us when such twisted-minded "pastors" are here to lead the faithful.

    Alsaticus

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  61. Anonymous12:09 AM

    If it was not for the music I would think that this was the end of act 1 of the Opera Aida where they are praying to the Egyptian god Phtha in the temple of Vulcan.

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  62. @St. Raphael,

    the Novus Ordo Mass is invalid because the priest doesn't believe in transubstantiation.

    It isn't necessary for the priest to believe in transsubstantiation for the Sacrament to be confected. It is only necessary that he intends to do what the Church does, or the equivalent, such as what Christ instituted.

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  63. Anonymous12:59 AM

    Neal, I believe the TLM offered during the SSPX pilgrimage to Lourdes in 2008 filled the underground basilica of St Pius X, which looks like a basketball arena. Louis

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  64. Just because Latin American Catholics are becoming more attracted to Pentecostalism, is no justification to altar the Roman Rite, to make it look and feel more like a Pentecostal service, just to keep them Catholic. Not justified one bit!.

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  65. Quote: "I just hope the rumors that Bishop Olmsted is going to be named coadjutor bishop to LA are true."

    Better yet Bishop Fellay of the SSPX, would be a better coadjutor for LA.

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  66. This is the worship of the People of God. By virtue of our baptism we are able to "stand in His Presence" and serve Him. Enough said.

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  67. Quote: "This is the worship of the People of God. By virtue of our baptism we are able to "stand in His Presence" and serve Him. Enough said."

    Not Roman Rite Worship!.

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  68. Anonymous2:24 AM

    If this is not the pinnacle of abuse I do not know what is..We have such as invalid, illicit,scandalous for a reason. If this example does not define those terms I do not know what does. How much further into the toilet does the LA Diocease have to allowed to sink? When do the poor people who are faithful to Holy Mother Church catch a break? I mean they are not even allowed a Mass in Latin in most Dioceases. This should be a requirement of at least one Sunday Mass to preserve the language and culture of the CATHOLIC Church. The are inextricably linked. Please, Holy Father, rescue the souls there by appointing someone to undo this mess, even if it will take generations. It has to start.

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  69. And the Holy Father wants the Novus Ordo and the TLM to cross-fertilize? We'll pass on that, thanks, Your Holiness.

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  70. Vox Clamans Ex Inculta3:34 AM

    Nice interpretative dance performance.

    If only it weren't posing as the Mass.

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  71. Magister Christianus: don't be afraid to cross the Tiber. It isn't all like this. And you have plenty of people praying for you.

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  72. Anonymous3:59 AM

    What a sick joke.

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  73. Here is a good point brought up by someone at CAF about this spectacle.


    Quote: "Saddening. This Mass was a purposeful and direct smack in the face to the Vatican and Catholic Liturgy. The Archdiocese chose to celebrate the closing liturgy of its big RE conference illicitly.

    For starters, the sacred vessels were glass and wicker.

    Yet, Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum explicitly states that,

    ""Reprobated, therefore, is any practice of using for the celebration of Mass common vessels, or others lacking in quality, or devoid of all artistic merit or which are mere containers, as also other vessels made from glass, earthenware, clay, or other materials that break easily."

    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...ml#Chapter%20V "

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  74. The Archbishop of LA should be held accountable for this mockery!.

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  75. Vaticano6:51 AM

    "Fourth Anonymous said...
    A Pope promulgated the Novus Ordo. Don't Catholics have to accept it?"
    NO Pope promulgated Novus Ordo. It was done in a pseudo-comission years after Second Vatican Council. It's not the Missal of Paul VI, it's the Missal of Bugnini. They did all this when the Pope was ill. Sacrosantum Concilium mentions none of what these people are doing. All the stuff in that video is illegal in Canon Law and the GIRM. NO wonder everybody is going to the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, the way it should be.
    In October 1967, the Episcopal Synod called in Rome was required to pass judgement on the experimental celebration of a so-called "normative Mass" (New Mass), devised by the Consilium ad exsequendam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia. This Mass aroused the most serious misgivings. The voting showed considerable opposition (43 non placet), very many substantial reservations (62 juxta modum), and 4 abstentions out of 187 voters. The international press spoke of a "refusal" of the proposed "normative Mass" (New Mass) on the part of the Synod. Progressively-inclined papers made no mention of it. In the Novus Ordo Missae lately promulgated by the Apostolic Constitution Missale Romanum, we once again find this "normative Mass" (New Mass), identical in substance, nor does it appear that in the intervening period the Episcopal Conference, at least as such, were ever asked to give their views about it.Since the "normative" Mass (New Mass), now reintroduced and imposed as the Novus Ordo Missae (New Order of the Mass), was in substance rejected by the Synod of Bishops, was never submitted to the collegial judgement of the Episcopal Conferences, nor have the people - least of all in mission lands - ever asked for any reform of Holy Mass whatsoever, one fails to comprehend the motives behind the new legislation which overthrows a tradition unchanged in the Church since the 4th and 5th centuries, as the Apostolic Constitution itself acknowledges. As no popular demand exists to support this reform, it appears devoid of any logical grounds to justify it and makes it acceptable to the Catholic people. So, The Traditional Latin Mass was the exclusive form celebrated during the Second Vatican Council. As a matter of fact, most of the changes that have been introduced by the 1960's liturgical reform took place in the years after the Second Vatican Council. The Council itself never abolished the traditional liturgy, and its famous document about the Liturgy of the Church, "Sacrosanctum Concillium," mentions only the possibility of some adaptations but never called for the change of language nor the rite of the Holy Mass as a whole.It is, therefore, very desirable that all the faithful should know the traditional liturgy and should be able to understand its significance and its importance for the future of Holy Mother Church.

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  76. This is not my religion either... This is a parade. You know, they do it in Disneyland every day, and it's very good and entertaining.... in Disneyland !

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  77. Anonymous11:51 AM

    While I entirely understand people's indignation about this sorry event it can be summed up in one word: ABSURD.

    The tragedy is that it attracted a large congregation which was little better than an audience.

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  78. Anonymous1:45 PM

    Vaticano,
    How can it be what you say? Isn't the novus ordo the "Official" or "Ordinary" rite of the Roman Church? Isn't it also called "The Mass of Pope Paul VI"? And was it not formally proclaimed by the appropriate offices, all ultimately authorized by the Pope? It was all so public, and embraced by so many bishops from the Pope on down, and then so adopted so quickly by so many, that the whole movement was much more, and much deeper, than the behind the scenes machinations you describe. If what you say is true, what does that say about how easily the NO was so heartily embraced by so many?

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  79. Anonymous3:32 PM

    Now that we have all wrung our hands (again) and moaned (again) the fact remains that this kind of stuff happens in Roman churches near the Vatican. Not on such a scale but it happens. And yes, it happens all over Europe. Rome is well aware of this and tolerates it. Rome tolerates just about anything these days except questioning its authority. Unfortunately it has become too timid to exercise this cherished authority and what is left is a depressing free for all. Just look at the vapid bishops in this video and fasten your seat belts. Its going to be a bumpy ride.

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  80. Sebastien4:05 PM

    Great !
    I like this liturgy.
    Enthousiasm and faith.
    The hope for the church.
    Thanks for the organisation and for the bishops

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  81. vaticano4:21 PM

    you can't make up facts like the ones I posted. If you research what actually happened you'll see the big picture. Second Vatican Council never called for a drastic change in the litrugy. It all happened in a seperate comission. That's the cold, hard truth.

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  82. Anonymous6:01 PM

    It is this, and many of its earlier manifestations that caused me to consider and embrace Orthodoxy. We worship the Father, the Son and the Spirit in dignity and awe. No pope giving us a "new" mass - the Divine Liturgy is the worship of the One God by his people.

    Mike M.

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  83. Mike M., that is one of the most grievous things about these kinds of liturgical mockeries -- that they scandalise the faithful and drive them away from the Church and into apostasy or heresy or schism. May God bring you back into the Ark of Salvation.

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  84. Anonymous7:55 PM

    Vaticano,
    It's a rather interesting turn when Vatican II is referenced as a bulwark against the Novus Ordo, but it's pointless. The Supreme Pontiff can act without a council, according to Roman doctrine. One Pope promulgated the Novus Ordo, right? And successive Popes have allowed for things like this liturgy in LA. Focusing on the details of a commission is perhaps interesting and maybe even true, but not relevant. Is not the more relevant truth that the very existence of the Novus Ordo arises from a Pope?

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  85. "It is this, and many of its earlier manifestations that caused me to consider and embrace Orthodoxy. We worship the Father, the Son and the Spirit in dignity and awe. No pope giving us a "new" mass - the Divine Liturgy is the worship of the One God by his people."

    Mike, Our Lord permits these abominations to test the faith of his servants. Don't fail him. Cling to our Blessed Mother and she will be your salvation in these times of general apostasy. Remember: Our Lord is testing you!

    Vaticano,

    The populous did not ask for a new Mass, quite true. Yes, it was foisted upon them, but now, how to put the toothpaste back into the tube? People now happen to like the protestant form of worship. I still keep tabs on my old parish, and that's just the way it is. Most there are not receptive to the old Mass. They love the creativity, activity, warm-fuzzies of the N.O. - just like in this youtube. The poor people don't even realize they are no longer Catholic.

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  86. Anonymous1:44 AM

    Why does everyone get upset when they see this stuff? It goes on all the time... This is the fruit of Vatican II. Oh, but let's all just stay in our parishes and pray for Fr. Bob, Deacon Tom, and Sr. Suzzie to come to their senses. No, lets write to Rome and let them know what's happening.

    Wake up, people and leave these Protestants. They have the churches but you (seem to) have the Faith.

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  87. Anonymous2:32 AM

    This is so painful to watch. To think the people participating, dont even know any better. Will a new bishop even have the physical and mental strength to repair this when he will be opposed by nearly all, including his own... one hopes Rome will pick a strong sheppard. They desperately need it.

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  88. Reason #198 why my family and I remain within the arms of the SSPX!

    Semper Fidelis

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  89. Preview of the 2011 LA RE Conference.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx3EMvZrFR4

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  90. WILUG5:02 AM

    Is this valid? Why isn't Benedict XVI doing anything about it?

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  91. Anonymous5:34 AM

    And what's Rome response to this new scandal? Set an example throught the way the Pope celebrates?... It hardly works. Dismissing those in charge of this profanation would be much more effective (starting with the clown who presides at this party). It would also set a much clearer example. From Rome we expect: "Acta, non verba!".

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  92. Anonymous7:47 AM

    Everyone should turn their attention to what is going on around us right now. There are bigger issues at stake. If the secular media and atheists keep bashing the church there's no telling what we'll have left. The LOUD minority is all over the t.v. and newspaper and the mystical body of Christ isn't doing anything. Use these resources to combat Prof.Dawkins before he brain washes what is left of God's people. How can we let an atheistic, secular minority like that have the loudest bark? This Liturgical Education Congress is small potatoes. Our religion is in jepordy.

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  93. Anonymous11:51 AM

    Let's pray that the next Archbishop of Los Angeles will not allow this mess in his diocese...A sight that makes one "sick"...

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  94. Those of us who are upset and mortified by these liturgical excesses/sacrileges are on a path to Calvary with Our Lord this week. Let us remember that Our Lord was abandoned by his disciples and even his appointed head, Peter, disowned him three times publicly.

    None of the apostles except John witnessed the Crucifixion as they hid for fear of the Jews. Is the appointed Head disowning Him again by not acting to remove those responsible for these atrocities and mandating a return to the Traditional Liturgy? It's an open question, my friends.

    Words are not going to resolve this crisis in the Church. Only firm, resolute action to remove the perpetrators will restore confidence that the Papacy is in good hands. So, this week let us pray that His Holiness will see the Light and do what is necessary to remove this cancer from the Body of Christ.

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  95. This is very sad and disgusting. This is NOT the Roman Church, this is not a Mass. May God help the roman Catholics to return to their true traditions and to the Traditional Latin Mass.
    Your Orthodox friend.

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  96. Anonymous1:41 PM

    Everybody, do the deacon dance.
    Hold the gospel, start to prance.
    It's easy, give it a chance.
    Everybody, do the deacon dance.

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  97. "There are bigger issues at stake."

    There can be no greater issue than the liturgy and the infallible doctrines that used to nourish this in The Latin Mass of All Time until the NO service of Bugnini appeared and tilted the authentic lex supplicandi away from the lex credendi. There is no way back for a church that has tried to deny its past for a novel & transient present. All other current issues take their roots in this one salient and overriding one. The postmodernist approach to liturgy reflects the chaos in an undisciplined, decentralised and pastorally liberal modernist church.

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  98. Anonymous4:14 PM

    Look at this:

    http://pics.livejournal.com/lm_wkl/pic/0003qybc.gif

    Whatever you say, Catholicism still works better than anything else.

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  99. traditionaltroubleshooter5:52 PM

    Yikes, but be not afraid. Attend your proper masses and fight the good fight as a rightly formed soldier in the church militant.

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  100. Anonymous8:26 PM

    I am watching it as part of my Lenten penance. I think I have emptied purgatory.

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  101. Be advised that this video is now making the rounds of the Orthodox blogosphere, and it is indeed a dash of cold water in the face of any ecumenically-minded Orthodox.

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  102. Joe, Canada11:57 PM

    of course there are young people there. Didn't we all ask 'what will they do after World Youth Day and Life Teen?'

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  103. Will we ever... EVER get a Pope that will do something? This isn't a small time event easy gone unnoticed by the Vatican. The Archdiocese of LA is how big???

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  104. "Catholicism still works better than anything else.'

    Only when it is properly nourished with Sacred Tradition.

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  105. Anonymous1:09 PM

    LeonG,
    How can you say that what you see in LA is the result of "decentralization"? The NO was created and approved by one Pope, and supported by successive Popes, who have since the promulgation of the NO NEVER EVER stopped this sort of thing. See "altar girls, John Paul II PM". The evidence points to a direct line to the LA scene from the Popes, no matter how much it may be wished to be otherwise.

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  106. Anonymous6:43 PM

    Thesis, anti-thesis, then synthesis.
    Coming soon to a Catholic Church near you.
    Beware.

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  107. Hello, American Catholics. I am Brazilian, I live in Sao Paulo and I have been following the blog lately. This Mass is a scandal, and there is no soul that do not whine about disrespect for the Holy Mass there Atul. In Brazil, we already witnessed the worst scenes, such as the 'dancing skewers'
    .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rThWKfCSHyQ
    .
    Triste, muito Triste.

    Pax et Bonum!

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  108. My blog is:www.apostoladoshema.com
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    Visit when you can.

    Pax et Bonum!

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