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For the Record

The Archbishop of Cali, Colombia, 72, had his resignation (CIC, can. 401 § 2) accepted today by the Holy Father. You may remember him from the cover-up accusation made by Father Germán Robledo, which we first reported in 2009 ("The 'homosexualization' of the Church in Latin America"), and which was covered widely in 2010.

Just blame Woodstock...

15 comments:

  1. Anonymous11:25 AM

    "Blame Woodstock" Rubbish!!

    The true blame, (and it is becoming clearer year by year, and soon month by month), is Vatican II, the Novus Ordo, the collapse of Catholic culture, tradition, and indeed Catholic civilization caused by Vatican II. Also the tremendously bad leadership of a series of Popes who were either actively supportive of the corruption and destructive reforms springing from Vatican II (especially Paul VI), or simply delusional-instead considering Vatican II and what came from it a "New Springtime" a la John Paul II.

    My personal belief after doing extensive research and reading (aside from my regular job and career and travels), is that Vatican II in and of itself, how it was written, who wrote it, who dominated the conclusions and final decrees, eho manipulated it's implementation etc. is to blame for the crisis in the Church. The blame lies squarely on Paul VI's weak shoule horde of genuinely evil cardinals, bishops, priests, and experts he surrounded himself with and allowed freereign to destroy the Church and the
    priesthood.
    By trying to supress the Tridentine Latin Mass, by imposing the Protestant-style Novus Ordo, by sweeping away a thousand years of Catholic traditions, culture and disiplines, by removing by Papal decree every priestly academic in the Roman Pontifical seminaries who were conservative and orthodox in the very early 1970's (Paul VI accually decreed that they be removed from all teaching positions in Roman seminaries), the door was opened to repeat the same process in all seminaries...opening the doors to thr radical liberals, liturgical abusers, and the homosexuals which flooded into seminaries between 1965-85.
    In the view of a growing number of good and holy priests who have been speaking out and writting books highly critical and even condemning Vatican II, it is Vatican Ii, Paul VI, his gang of advisors, and the inaction or tacit support of Popes for 40 years that has caused this problem.
    Benedict XVI, while still a member of this clique, at least has acknowledged some errors, and has not enshrined Vatican II on a pedistal as Paul VI and John Paul (especially), did.
    Unless he openly reverses and repidiates by deed as well as strong words, much of Vatican II and all the decrees and moto proprios of Paul VI which furthered it, then the crisis in the Church will continue.
    We need a Pope like Cardinal Burke, or the very great Archbishop Schneider in Kazakhstan(who I hope is promoted to a cardinalatial See in Germany, or in the Roman Curia).
    Until we get a Pope like them, who at least recognize the evil of much of Vatican II especially in the Mass and religious life, then the crisis will only continue.
    Brick by brick, Vatican II must be exposed and torn down.

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  2. Anonymous11:34 AM

    Mons Darío de Jesús Monsalve Mejía is the new Archbishop of Cali.

    Is he a traditional Catholic open to the Tridentine Latin Mass, obediedient to Catholic traditon, teaching, and the Popes, or is he just another liberal whose name was pulled from the "magic circle's" hat.

    More of the same is no answer to the Catholic Church crisis. We need the appointment of dozens of men in the mold of St. Pius X, Venerable Pope Pius XII, Cardinal Burke, Archbishop Schneider,ORC....and men like them!

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  3. Anonymous @ 11:25

    I support your entire premise. Well said. Is it possible for you to relate some of the specific research you accomplished, especially the Paul VI documents you mention, the decrees and possibly other documents? This would be most enlightening.

    Jerry

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  4. I didn't mean for you to dig deeper but only to specify the documents you had reference to. Thanks.

    Jerry

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  5. More of the same is no answer to the Catholic Church crisis. We need the appointment of dozens of men in the mold of St. Pius X, Venerable Pope Pius XII, Cardinal Burke, Archbishop Schneider,ORC....and men like them!

    Men like Marcel, "The Great", I suppose...

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  6. Anonymous6:45 PM

    I have been watching the situation in Cali for some time and noticed this change early this morning. It is a great relief that Bishop Sarasti Jaramillo is gone. I expect that the work of repairing the damage will quicken now.
    P.K.T.P.

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  7. Anonymous7:06 PM

    "Men like Marcel, "The Great", I suppose..."

    Yeah, men like "Marcel the Great"....not men like Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, Godfried Danneels, Piero Marini, Cardinal Carlo Martini ,or good ol' Cardinals Joe Bernardin and Roger Mahoney.

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  8. Now! now! Anonymous said, these were friends of the great previous pontiff.

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  9. Louis E.9:46 PM

    Wait a minute,if Mauro Cappelari (aka Pope Gregory XVI) is still with us,then Pius IX and his successors have been antipopes...

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  10. John L12:13 AM

    'by removing by Papal decree every priestly academic in the Roman Pontifical seminaries who were conservative and orthodox in the very early 1970's (Paul VI actually decreed that they be removed from all teaching positions in Roman seminaries)'

    I know this happened with Piolante, the rector of the Lateran, whom Paul VI ordered removed, but do you have other examples of such action and sources that describe them?

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  11. Anonymous11:04 AM

    Has anyone at the Vatican or any Bishops ever read research done on the nature of child abuse????

    I've worked with abused boys and girls for over 25 years and you know what research shows, 'the overwhelming majority of sexual abusers are happily married heterosexual men. You've got it.

    Homosexuality and celebacy or even Vatican II has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with the nature of abuse. Did any of the above allow abuse to happen in our Church, maybe.

    The abuse is happening everywhere and rather than guess at why let's put our collective good will together to prevent it and hold those who do abuse responsible for their behavior.

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  12. It seems I've been caught :-)

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  13. I've worked with abused boys and girls for over 25 years and you know what research shows, 'the overwhelming majority of sexual abusers are happily married heterosexual men. You've got it.

    That's quite true, looking at society at large. And yet the fact remains that 80 percent of the incidents of priestly sexual abuse involves homosexuals sodomising teenage boys and young men.

    Homosexuality and celebacy or even Vatican II has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with the nature of abuse.

    Celibacy obviously had nothing to do with it, but you've got to be blind or self-blinded to claim that homosexuality has nothing to do with the nature of homosexual abuse of boys. This "study" is nothing but a whitewash, and will make it much more difficult for the Church to address the serious problems that beset her.

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  14. Louis E.5:55 PM

    So,Mauro/Gregory,what have you been doing since 1846,and why?

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  15. Gratias4:07 AM

    Allowing openly homosexuals into the seminaries was the problem of post Vatican II. Homosexuals prefer young boys like the Greeks preferred the ephebus. This is not new. What was new was that open homosexuals are very promiscuous and celibacy was interpreted as not being allowed to marry. To compound the problem, John Paul II sent the abusers off to therapy with psychologists instead of a monastery to expiate their sins. So here we are, thanks to the Spirit of Vatican II.

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