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For the Record: Msgr. Bux questions Ratzinger's resignation, Bergoglio's legitimacy

We post this now as an important part of the record during the reign of Bergoglio. While we discussed this on Twitter a few days ago, we are just now able to post this on the blog. Long-time readers know we have followed the "Good Bux" for many years (click the tags at the bottom of the post to read more). 

What the Msgr. is speaking to, the validity of Benedict's abdication, and naturally following the legitimacy of Bergoglio's election, is no longer now reserved to online chat rooms and church basement coffee hours. What has been hidden for five years in the shadows is now illuminated and out in the open. 

We take no position on this here at Rorate -- other than sunlight is always the best disinfectant. 


From PJ Media, with original interview from Aldo Maria Valli:

To address the current crisis, he suggested that an examination of the “juridical validity” of Pope Benedict’s XVI’s resignation was in order to “overcome problems that today seem insurmountable to us.” The theologian consultor to the Congregation for the Causes of Saints was implying that further study of the situation could reveal that Francis is not and has never been a valid pope, but is, in fact, an antipope who could be removed from the papacy, thus nullifying his "insurmountable" errors.

Monsignor Bux said WHAT???

On November 21, 2010, the 3rd "Conference for Catholic Unity" was held in Versailles to mark the three years that have passed since the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum came into effect. Chretiente posted a report, translated as follows by some friends of Rorate (I have replaced the original emphases with mine):


Implementation of the Motu proprio: may the priests take courage

Last Sunday, the third conference organized by Réunicatho on the three years of the Motu proprio Summorum Pontificum opened before some 700 persons (in attendance). Daniel Hamiche opened the debates by putting forward the view that the Extraordinary Form ought to become the Ordinary one (by its becoming celebrated more often and everywhere), and that the Ordinary Form should become Extraordinary (following the much-talked-about Reform of the Reform). As for the numbers, the Pope's work of pacification has in three years given France 80 additional places for the celebration of this Mass. However, for Daniel Hamiche, and as everybody involved in the commercial sector knows, it is the offer that creates the demand, as there is no demand for what one does not know. Daniel Hamiche hoped for a new development in the implementation of the Motu proprio, including:

• celebration (of the Extraordinary Form) every Sunday and holy day in every diocesan area;

• at least one celebration once a year by each bishop in his cathedral;

• training in the Extraordinary Form in every seminary;

• the creation within the French Episcopal Conference (the CEF) of a commission dedicated to the application of the Motu proprio.

After this, four applicants gave voice to their experience:

• the Parish of Sainte-Clotilde in Paris, where (the Traditional) Mass has been celebrated on Mondays at noontime, but refused on Sundays at the order of the Archbishop;

• the Parish of Sainte-Madeleine at Plessis-Robinsons, where a solution has been found (to enable a celebration) every Sunday;

• in the valley of Montmorency, where a flawed solution was introduced;

• the Parish of Notre-Dame de Versailles, where the request (for an EF Mass) has been purely and simply refused.

Monsignor Nicola Bux, Consultant to the Office of Liturgical celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff and member of two congregations then talked at length about the liturgy and the Pope’s desire of pacification. He began his intervention by saying that the French bishops, who like to interact with non-Christians, ought also to dialogue with Catholics and that they must not be afraid of the sheep of their own flock! They should confront reality and not the perception that they have of it. He recalled that the Extraordinary Form is for all of the People of God, and not just a minority, and that it ought to serve as a training for the better celebration of the Ordinary Form. He indicated that, in Italy, the implementation of the Motu proprio is done through priests. He therefore admonished priests to be courageous in the implementation of this text. Finally, he added that the refusal of the Extraordinary Form could be considered as a rupture of communion with the Pope.