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The Pope's third encyclical

Ignacio Ingrao, Vatican affairs journalist for Italian weekly Panorama, reports:

Six months after Spe Salvi, the Pope publishes his third encyclical. The document should bear the date of May 1st, feast of Saint Joseph the Worker. It will be a social encyclical ... .

The document is divided in two parts. In the first one, the Pope recalls the encyclicals Populorum progressio, of Paul VI, and Centesimus annus, of John Paul II; in the second part, [he] assesses the great challenges of our time.

Tip and source: Papa Ratzinger Blog

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Greeeeaaaaaat, a modernist encylical based off of two other modernist encyclicals.

When are we going to start tackling the root causes of the problems of today, i.e., the new mass, new Faith, contraception, homosexual clergy, etc?

Talk about treating the symptom ...

Anonymous said...

That's a little harsh, don't ya think? You haven't even read it yet and you're already coming down on the Pontiff for it.

Anonymous said...

the first comment was obviously not written by a Catholic

Kim D'Souza said...

Given that this is the 40th anniversary of Humanae Vitae, I hope the Holy Father will recall that prophetic encyclical to the attention of the contemporary world. So many of today's social problems are bound up with the contraceptive mentality.

Anonymous said...

The first anonymous has a point. Populorum Progressio is an absolutely dreadful encyclical. Hardly one worth celebrating an "anniversary" for.

Jordan Potter said...

So, some anonymous coward who hasn't even read the Pope's not-yet-published encyclical has somehow ascertained that the Pope's encyclical will be promulgating Modernist heresy. Oooookay!

Anonymous said...

I am worried about more development from Rerum Novarum. Fortunately, not all the teaching it contains is infallible.

That is even more the case for Populorum Progressio.

I will leave off criticising something that has not even been published, however.

I rather worry that this move from Benedict XVI is meant to satisfy the liberals in the Church. First one shoe drops with S.P., then the other. Everyone has something to celebrate.

More welcome would be a reversal of this Pope's dreadful seminary document. Let it be changed to read that nobody having any homerastic tendencies whasoever, whether "deep-seated" (an unfortuante term in translation!) or 'shallow-seated' be admitted to the seminary or the priesthood. The three-year limitation also has to go. No matter how many years before ordination, none such tendencies should be tolerated for one instant.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

Good detection, anon. I see Lefebvrites go in for nutty homophobia as well.

Anonymous said...

What a crazy lot your are!

Anonymous said...

I think the Church could better use a 60-year reflection on Mediator Dei, but hey, that's just me...

~ Belloc

Anonymous said...

The Church does have a social teaching you know! The Pope has been addressing key doctrinal and disciplinary matters in his encyclicals and other legislation. He know has the opportunity to revisit the social teaching and to evaluate and fine tune. Please afford Peter religious assent!

Anonymous said...

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New Catholic said...

Really?... I usually view it in Firefox 2, and it usually looks quite good - better, in fact, than in IE.

Anonymous said...

no probs with Firefox 2 for me either

James M said...

Congratulations to Anoymous #1 and friends. Since when did Jesus ever give a hoot about the wretched poor, the hungry and lowly, the pathetic unwashed?

Why should our Pope's start twisting the meaning of Christianity by penning all these social encyclicals? The Church is too important and too busy to get mixed up in actual love.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous #1 here again.

While I appreciate a good gang beating as much as the next guy, and the label of a non-Catholic was extremely amusing, I can assure you I am a Catholic and I'm not an SSPX'r or a sede vacantist -- i'm an indult-Mass attending Catholic who is just tired of modernist writing that no one can even understand because it's all milk toast that means something different to everyone who reads it.

When someone gets cancer, you don't give them aspirin to dull the pain as the main treatment. You give their whole body chemo or cut out the cancerous cells. Our post-Concilliar pontiffs seem to simply dispense aspirin.

A perfect example was on EWTN last night. After puking in my mouth a few times watching the end of the show that came on before it, i then suffered through the first 15 minutes of a show called "Life on the Rock." I did this because the Carmel Monks in Whyoming were coming on.

Even though they were never asked about the tradional Mass and liturgy they pray each day, they were asked about vocation shortages.

Instead of giving the standard answer of how it's the fault of the times and the young people, the abbot simply said: "Dioceses get the vocations they deserve."

That was the most profound, honest thing I've heard outside a traditional church in a long time. Just simple and straightforward. And that's all i'm asking for in the writings of our pope.

Braadwijk said...

An encyclical on social teaching always makes me nervous, even before I get the chance to read it. Rerum Novarum was turned into a Communist Manifesto by the Church's progressives, and the latter more liberal-minded Pontiffs have only enabled this with their own soft input (or worse) on the subject. We have yet to see what Benedict has to say about the nanny state establishment in Europe (#2 on the list of what's killing the West), and as much as I hate to admit it my Germanic pessimism is perked by anything that comes out of the Church with the label of "social teaching" these days. Benedict is certainly more oriented to the free market and individual charity than John Paul II or Paul VI were, but I do disagree with his CDU/CSU approach to things. The State simply cannot be made charitable or force people to be charitable because the State does not have a soul. No amount of good will from any politician or monarch will ever change that.

Anonymous said...

The New Mass is not the problem. Ever watch EWTN?

Ken said...

1 May 2008 is Ascension Thursday this year -- Saint Joseph the Worker is transfered to 2 May 2008.

Anonymous said...

While ignoramus' like me are certainly welcome to read and try to apply the teachings in Papal encyclicals, they have historically been written for bishops and others trained in the precise language of the priesthood (canonical and historical). Their messages are then to be applied largely by said bishops and priests.

I think we're seeing a breakdown on all levels in this process. The popes of Vatican II use new and novel language which is dangerous at best, the bishops deliberately interpret that language wrongly, and the faithful, having long lost respect for the authority of the church anyway, usually disregard it altogether and do whatever they want. Thus, the phrase diabolical disorientation applies across the spectrum, and this is why it is not a good time to be putting out "social" documents so much as disciplinary ones that are harder to turn into weapons against the church herself. Not that that can't be done, but.

elmwood said...

i think this encyclical is well needed in our hedonistic materialistic society.

nobody seems to understand catholic social teaching. we have marxists on the left and libertarian free market capitalists on the right. both are inherently wrong.

the truth is that all just laws, including those regulating the market, are there to encourage us to live virtuous lives. they are needed because we are fallen and only with great difficulty can we live a holy life.