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Transalpine Redemptorists change their name


In consultation with the Holy See, the "Transalpine Redemptorists" have changed their name to "Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer" (Filii Sanctissimi Redemptoris). Henceforth they will use the initials "F.SS.R"

You can read more about their change of name and reasons at the "Papa Stronsay" blog:


18 comments:

New Catholic said...

Congratulations to the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer for their new name!

bob said...

See this as well (from the Diocese of Aberdeen, in which the FSSR are based):

http://www.scottishcatholicobserver.org.uk/letter_1.htm

Anonymous said...

Are Christians or Apostles called the "sons of Christ"? Theologically this is problematic.

Sons of Mary, yes, for She is our Mother in Heave. Sons of the Father, for yes, He is the Father of All. But Christ does not have sons, because He as a Son and Man never participated in generation either figuratively or actually or formally. The Bride of Christ, the Church is begotten from His Side, but no one calls the Church Christ's Daughter...nor Christians, his sons.

Jay said...

What is wrong being spiritual son of Christ? Through Christ we are spiritual children of Mary and through Mary we go to Christ.

New Catholic said...

Interesting, Bob. Poor local Bishop: he must be frustrated with all these negotiations made over his head... But fear not, Your Lordship: not even His Eminence, Cardinal Ricard, was spared this embarrassment in another famous regularization process (that of the Institute of the Good Shepherd).

Anonymous said...

I thought "Transalpine Redemptorists" was one of the coolest names for a religious order I'd heard. "Sons of the Redeemer" sounds like a dime a dozen religious congregation name. What do we call them now if not Redemptorists? Sons?

Anonymous said...

In a strange turn of phrase, the Latin can also be rendered: "the holiest sons of the Redeemer".

Mark said...

Bob:

That must be old. It refers to the censures, something we know has been lifted.

Anonymous said...

Christ is called "Father-Forever" or "Eternal Father" in Isaias, ch. 9. He is also called "father of the poo" in the Litany of the Holy Name. ~Tobias

Anonymous said...

In the Litany of the Holy Name of Jesus, Our Lord is referred as "Father" twice, as "Jesus, Father of the world to come" and "Jesus, Father of the Poor." So it would be proper to call themselves "Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer."

Bob said...

Mark: I don't know when it was written but its published in this week's SCO. Just pop into your local parish and check.

Anonymous said...

On the Sons comment:

Christ has sons in an extended sense, for He is called in the Litany of the Holy Name, 'Father of the World to come.

St. Joseph was a father in an extended sense, and there are prayers asking, 'Paternal Heart of Joseph, pray for us'. He was fatherly.

Also, God the Son is one with the Father in the Blessed Trinity. Hence the sons of God are the Sons of Christ as well as the sons of the Father and the Holy Ghost.

I don't think that we need read the title of 'son' in a formal or generative way.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

It reminds me of the Fraternity of St. Vincent Ferrer (Dominican) when they were approved by the Church around the same time as the Ecclesiae Dei accords.
They were not permitted by the Vatican to wear the Dominican habit which they had been using, so they had to make slight additions to their garb to differentiate it from the traditional Dominican habit.
If ever the Dominicans of Avrille, France are reconciled with the Vatican, they won't have to go thru that. because they already wear the original, medieval style of the Dominican habit which the established Dominican Order discarded in the 20th century...even before Vatican II.
(wide monastic sleeves, heavy habit material, etc.).

Anonymous said...

May Our Lord bless them, every one of them!

Anonymous said...

God bless them and their community.

Elijah said...

We know it already....

Anonymous said...

I guess their going to have to allow their members to do the NO now...at least when there out of house, visiting other churches, chapels

Al said...

Bishop Fellay Contests Transalpine Statement
Regarding Supplied Jurisdiction for Religious Superiors

by John Vennari

On July 18, Father Michael Mary, Superior of the Transalpine Redemptorists (now called Sons of the Holy Redeemer), stated his belief that religious superiors of �irregular� traditional orders, such as those aligned with the Society of St. Pius X, have no supplied jurisdiction.

He further stated,

�We asked the SSPX about this question and also the traditionalist Dominicans in France. Both agreed that there was no �supplied jurisdiction� for religious superiors.�


Many were shocked and puzzled by this statement. Why would Archbishop Lefebvre, a man whose knowledge of theology and canon law was profound, encourage traditional religious orders if the superiors did not have even the minimum supplied jurisdiction to receive religious vows, both simple and perpetual.


On July 22, I (John Vennari) telephoned his Excellency Bishop Fellay, Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X asking his comments on Father Michael Mary�s claim. His Excellency sent me the following statement for publication:

Response from Bishop Fellay

Dear Mr. Vennari,

Thank you for the phone conversation of today.

I can affirm to you that we never had any problem in justifying our jurisdiction or the one used in the various religious Congregations of Tradition.

I am very surprised to hear that Fr. Sim (Father Michael Mary) pretends that we would either agree or not have any answer to what I call his problem.

Of course, when one does no longer realize that there is a crisis in the Church, one may fall into such problems.

The supplied jurisdiction is a broad term which explains that in certain cases where the normal, "ordinary" channel of authority does not work properly, the Church does come to help.


The Code of Canon Law does mention this supplied jurisdiction for the exercise of some sacraments. But it can be easily extended to other situations whenever an act of authority is exercised outside of the ordinary channel of authority, due to peculiar circumstances, especially human failure.

The Church is not a tyrannical nor a positivist or legalist body. When it says that the supreme law is the salvation of souls, it just recalls to everybody that this is the very reason for the laws and authority in the Church.


The Catholic Church has such a consideration of the importance of salvation of souls, that, knowing of the human failures, as a good Mother, she will do all she can to overcome the obstacle of human error and failure.

Hence the supplied jurisdiction, a jurisdiction given ad casum directly by the institution of the Church to secure even more certainly the salvation of souls.


This same principle can obviously be applied to religious communities.


With my prayers and blessing

+Bernard Fellay



posted July 22, 2008:
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