Rorate Caeli

SSPX Builds a New Church in the Heart of Rouen

The solemn consecration of the Church of Saint-François-de-Sales by His Excellency, Mgr. Tissier de Mallerais will take place on Saturday November 22, 2008 at 9:30 am in Rouen.

“The construction of a brand new church in the central district of Rouen is an extraordinary event in this ominous period in the life of the Catholic Church in France where all around us there are churches closing and steeples falling to the wrecking ball.”... La Porte Latine
(Petit merci à Ennemond)

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

God bless them!

Dan Hunter said...

I would love to see some interior shots of the church.
Does anyone know where I could find these?
God bless.

Anonymous said...

I would like the Bishops in France to hand-over some of the empty shells and underutilized ancient church buildings to the SSPX and FSSP. In their charity, the Church would be able to become revitalized in the tradition that built these beautiful structures...

Anonymous said...

To New Catholic

The correct name of the SSPX bishop is
Mgr Tissier de Mallerais in this order.

In the diocese of Amiens, with numerous closed churches, Bp Bouilleret is refusing any agreement with SSPX over one year and the papal visit hasn't changed anything in his frontal hostility.
The faithful are attending Mass in the open air, by any weather, in a big square close to the bishop's cathedral.

Alsaticus

Anonymous said...

God bless them with many vocations, and many more faithful.

Were it not for the SSPX, we would not have over 550 traditional priests, 140 brothers, 280 seminarians, 175 SSPX sisters, 6 traditionalist Carmelite cloistered convents, 2 Benedictine abbies of monks and 3 of nuns, 2 Dominican monasteries of men and 2 of women, 2 large Dominican teaching congregations of sisters, 3 large Franciscan congregations of sisters, serveral contemplative new Orders of nuns, and traditionalist remnant branches of the Trappists(Cistercians), Carthusians, Carmelite friars, Capuchins, and many others traditional congregations.

Meanwhile, the liberal dissident Vatican II Orders continue to die out rapidly, and the faithful continue their exodus from the Church and their flight from the Novus Ordo of Paul VI.

Anonymous said...

To Annoymous:

You mentioned traditional Trappists (Cistercians), to my knowledge the postconcilliar Cistercians and Trappists are all Novus Ordo. In where could one find "traditional remnant" Cistercians?

I am a huge collector of Cistercian liturgical choir books and is hoping with the earnest desire of seeing the traditional Latin Gregorian Chant Office and the Cistercian Missal be revitalized, so that I could donate my tens of choir books to them when they make good use of them there.

Tell me, is there such a "traditionalist" branch of the Cistercians amidst all the crazy things happened in Gethesmane et alia?

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Carlos Antonio Palad said...

"...and traditionalist remnant branches of the Trappists(Cistercians), Carthusians, Carmelite friars, Capuchins, and many others traditional congregations"

I keep hearing about these, but aside from the traditional Capuchins and Dominicans in France I have not come across websites / webpages or solid references to the other "remnant branches" (Trappists, Carmelite friars, Carthusians). Can anyone here provide links, write-ups, etc?

And does anyone know how many of the Transalpine Redemptorists have remained aligned with the SSPX?

Anonymous said...

There is a Benedictine (Trappist?), SSPX monastary near Lordsburg, New Mexico (maybe Silver City).

B. said...

The French SSPX district publishes a rather comprehensive list of affiliated congregations here:
http://www.laportelatine.org/international/ordres/ordres.php

There are no Trappists or Carthusians mentioned anywhere.

Joe B said...

The Silver City, New Mexico, Benedictine monastery is also one of the few sources of the 30 Gregorian (traditional Latin) masses on 30 consecutive days for the soul of a departed one. I believe the cost is $300. Truly a bargain, and becoming an extinct one at that!

Confiteor said...

The Silver City, New Mexico, Benedictine monastery is also one of the few sources of the 30 Gregorian (traditional Latin) masses on 30 consecutive days for the soul of a departed one. I believe the cost is $300. Truly a bargain, and becoming an extinct one at that!

Here is another:
http://www.archconfraternity.com/

For a similar cost, Traditional Masses are offered by the F.Ss.R. priests in perpetuity.

Anonymous said...

Although I am generally critical of the SSPX, I welcome this move and I think it is th ebest things they can do. If bishops will not obey the pope and budge, the SSPX people should simply start building new churches and filling them up where others are closing down. The Vatican bureaucracy may find it easier to enforce SP than to disentangle the business of perhaps illegitimate or irregular church constructions by congregations not in communion, etc. I like it. Move it or lose it. Perhaps the PCED may find an easy administrative way to form links with the SSPX if they needn't go through the bishops, as these churches will not be sanctioned by the bishops of these geographical locations. This is the kind of 'confusion' that I find truly progressive, little headaches to urge Rome to work now before things get more complicated.

Joe B said...

But surely "in perpetuity" masses cannot be for a specific soul due to sheer numbers. All masses remember all of the Poor Holy Souls. It is comforting and, I believe, more beneficial to have masses dedicated to the help of a specific soul of a loved one. And we do have so many testimonies of returning souls asking for specific masses, you know.

Anonymous said...

On the question of traditional Cistercians -- how about the Cistercians in Northern California? I don't have their website handy, but I believe they are located somewhere around the town of Redding.

On the issue of the Church buildings and the SSPX in France: Would someone be so kind to explain to me what the status of the Catholic Church is in France. Does the French government really consider the Church buildings and property there to be under their ownership and executorship?

Is the problem that the properties are of such antiquity that ownership is unclear, and therefore the local and state government have various agreements?

Or does the problem with the SSPX finding a place for Mass simply come down to post-Conciliar issues?


Cheers,


-R

Mornac said...

Dan Hunter said...
"I would love to see some interior shots of the church. Does anyone know where I could find these?"

You can view a few photos of the interior taken by someone who was at the Consecration here:

http://www.leforumcatholique.org/message.php?num=447921

and here:

http://www.leforumcatholique.org/message.php?num=447923

They're a little tight but bear in mind that it's a small church and it was certainly filled to capacity for the event.

Anonymous said...

Couldn't help but notice that the women at that SSPX church do not have their heads covered?

I thought that is a no no?

Anonymous said...

Couldn't help but notice that the women at that SSPX church do not have their heads covered?

Watch the video of Mass at the SSPX church Saint-Nicolas-du-Chardonnet in Paris.

The women do not wear headcoverings, everyone wears street clothes, the epistle and gospel are read in the vernacular right in the middle of Mass (not at the start of the homily), etc.

Anonymous said...

The traditionalist Cistercians are located in Switzerland. There are about 12 of the monks.

If there is a traditional Cistercian house in Northern California, that's great news.


The traditionalist Carthusians are in France. They are basically independant and "sede-vacantist", and have about 22 monks. Some SSPX priests and others have served their community saying Mass (before they had priests of their own). Yjeu were begun by two ex-Carthusians from France, in 1978.
It is perhaps the only Carthusian house in the world where the monks follow the real Carthusian rule, uncorrupted by Vatican II.

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Carlos Antonio Palad said...

Who ordained the priests for the "sedevacantist" Carthusians?

22 monks would be impressive, given that the Carthusians in communion with Rome are down to about 300 monks.

Soli Deo Gloria said...

A million thanks to Joe B. and Confiteor for the information. Yes, some souls do stop by and $300 sounds heaven-sent for those in my clan.

Anonymous said...

Is there an address/site for the Carthusians? Merci!

LeonG said...

According to various reports there are some 30,000 under-utilised ecclesiastical structures in France. This number has probably fallen due to the literal wreckovation of the church there over the post-conciliar years. Meanwhile, the careless French hierarchy continue blindly down the cul-de-sac of neomodernist reactionism and stubborn resistance to Roman Catholic Tradition which is developing all around it. However, they prefer the mushrooming mosques and atheistic temples of materialism to the return of now desolate once functioning churches to their intended use: The Latin Mass of All Times.

Mark said...

To Anonymous (22 November, 2008 03:01):

What about the Trappists at Mariawald, who are using their '63 rite (see here / here.)