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Tears

The publication of the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum led at least one Italian bishop to tears.

Now, a popular Italian theologian (Gianni Gennari, a "Conservative Catholic" and laicized priest, now married, who is a columnist for Catholic daily Avvenire, under the pseudonym "Rosso Malpelo") cannot hold back his own tears.

Genari: "I am disappointed, stunned, scandalized"

«A swipe at John Paul II. It is the complete debacle of the Church»


by Laurence Figà-Talamanca

CITTÀ DEL VATICANO

"A swipe at John Paul II", who, up to the end, "begged" Anti-Conciliar Bishop Marcel Lefebvre not to consecrate new bishops. Gianni Gennari, former priest of dissent, is, to say little, "troubled", and he does not spare words in condemning the removal of the excommunication imposed by Pope Wojtyla, on June 30 1988 [sic], to the four Lefebvrist [sic] bishops: "It is a tragedy, the complete debacle of the Church!". "I am ashamed by the result of this act. I am disappointed, stunned, scandalized!", affirms Gennari to Ansa [news agency], holding back his anger and his tears with difficulty, and declaring he has a wide documentation of what took place at the time, "including a telegram of then-Cardinal Ratzinger" to Lefebvre.
"I don't know if the Pope himself should also be ashamed, that belongs to his conscience. He is a great theologian, and I do not understand what may have happened. It displeases me because I like him," adds the former priest, now married and a well-liked journalist in the columns of Avvenire under the pseudonym of "Rosso Malpelo".

"I don't know if anyone has fooled the Pope, but in this case there is no place for the mercy of Christ, because mercy is used for those who repent". But the Lefebvrists have never repented, even "for 40 years they have spoken of 'bastard popes', 'bastard Mass', they even called Paul VI a bastard, spewing venom and calumny."

Poor Gennari: he does not know what just hit him.
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Meanwhile, Bishops speaking anonymously to Il Messaggero cannot stop complaining about the Pope's decision:
Even though the gesture is motivated by the will to achieve unity, the consequences of the entry of the ultra-Traditionalists who "do not believe in Vatican II" and who have fought for the rehabilitation of the Latin Mass according to the ancient rite will lead "inevitably to some imbalance". 
The liturgical experts sound more than skeptical and agree."I ask myself" - a prelate declares - "at what cost will the reentry come. I fear that it will consolidate what two years ago was only an extraordinary rite. The entry of the Lefebvrists cannot but undermine the path made since Vatican II. Moreover, it is like ignoring the work of Paul VI and John Paul II". Pope Montini did what he could to understand the gesture of Archbishop Lefebvre, while Pope Wojtyla, before reaching the decision of excommunicating him, promoted a kind of internal query within the episcopate, ending at the 1984 indult. "The gesture of Pope Ratzinger will cause a certain instability" - a Cardinal adds. "It will expand even the movement towards the ancient rite, creating ulterior uneasiness, at a theological and pastoral level, in the parishes."
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25 comments:

Quasi Seminarian said...

Here my "liberal" side comes out. We should rejoice when we excommunications are lifted. We should of course always work for unity.

It should be sad and distressing every time someone seperates themself from the Church and thus sometimes has to incur a public sanction.

Why be distressed that someone is being welcomed back? The father of the prodigal son only opened his arms. Granted repentence is required, but the bishops time and time again have asked for the removal of the excommunication.

The Holy Father is criticised if he does one or the other. Better to save souls in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

The "progressive" reaction in France:
http://www.golias.fr/spip.php?article2617

Adrienne said...

Poor Gennari, is right! We have to continue to pray for wayward priests like this, because they cannot seem to see the wrong that they do and spew.

Will this mean that they will be free to set up TLM Parishes??? In the meantime: THANK YOU POPE BENEDICT XVI, and Than you Rorate Caeli for this news and all the news you present so well, for the benefit of all!

LeonG said...

On the contrary, it is an immense act of justice and undoes a completely futile excommunication process. Pope Benedict XVI has been courageous, deserving tremendous praise and support, as it is not merely an act of mercy and compassion but one that recognises the urgent importance of bringing tradition back to the centre of The Church in a positive and concrete manner.

The establishment of the indult societies such as the FSSP and others has not displaced the SSPX, as might have been hoped for by some. In fact, they have often had their potential growth stunted from within by episcopal ignorance, neglect and sometimes malice. Very soon, we may witness all orthodox traditional priests united in a common liturgical front propagating The Faith in the proper authentic Roman Catholic Holy Sacrifice of The Mass.

Anonymous said...

Quasi-Seminarian: It should be clear that SSPX never separated from the Church. The problem was one of Church law. They have not been re-united with the Church. They are not by any means going to start concelebrating masses with local bishops nor will those who frequent their chapels turn up at your local parish, at least not for the most part. What happened was that the ecclesiastical authorities abandoned people like myself. We have the weight of tradition on our side. These authorities led by two succesive popes managed as much as is humanly possible to ruin the spiritual life for me and my family. We did not join SSPX. But we could not in conscience attend our local parishes because of the out and out blasphemy and desacration to be encountered there. All this went on right under the Archbishops nose who said at one point to a priest who complained about the abuse to his flock, "Its a new ball game now, Joe, better get used to it." I personally find it difficult to believe that people who have at their finger tips through the internet the testimony of what Catholics have believed and how they have prayed for thousands of years got put up with the non-sense going on upt to this moment. The only explanation I can come up with is satanic delusion. The Holy Father in lifting the ex-communication simply did his duty. Their is no real reason for thanks or rejoicing. It should never have been imposed in the first place.

Jay said...

Has the suspension of the Bishops and Priests of the Society also been lifted? What are the conditions and terms of re-communications? The excommunication of Eastern Orthodox was lifted long time ago (at the SV2?) but they have not return to the Catholic Church yet.

Athanasius said...

The suspensions have not been lifted yet, the decree only addresses the excommunications. A juridical structure must be put in place. What the Pope could do is to grant a delegated jurisdiction to the Society bishops, with delegated jurisdiction to grant faculties for confessions while some type of universal apostolic administration or prelature is worked out and drawn up.
But since that hasn't happen, it is essentially moved back to 1988.

Athanasius said...

Poor Gennari doesn't realize the historic excesses that the Holy See has gone to in order to prevent and heal schisms, even to solutions for their own detriment. At the conclusion of the Italian Wars, Pope Julius II gave King Francis I of France unheard of privileges in order to keep France within the Church, and in turn that act took away any economic motive for Francis joining the Protestant Reformation.

What Benedict is signaling by lifting the excommunication is not unlike what Pope John XXIII was talking about in his document for the council, even though the council turned out to be very different. He is signaling that tradition matters, and that doctrine and teaching are still important, just as he showed a year and a half ago that liturgy is still important. Modernism hasn't surpassed them. Were it otherwise the Pope could not dream of working with the Society in the slightest.

This ex-priest (that always tells you something) declares they are unworthy of mercy. Who is he to declare who should and should not get mercy? Lucky for him our Lord is not so stingy.

Paul Haley said...

This is all about Unity and not about who has to repent of their actions. There are many who believe the need for repentance rests more with the hierarchy and the wreckovators than with the SSPX. Nevertheless, the Holy Father has seen to remit the excommunications levied against the SSPX bishops and we thank him for that gesture.

However, all is not a bed of roses and we would do well to remember that, officially, the bishops and priests remain suspended a divinis and to the rest of the catholic world without faculties.

This is an injustice IMHO and one will will last until it is resolved by the Holy Father. It's like saying: OK, we welcome you back but you had better not dare to function in your capacities as bishops and priests because you're still suspended.

Hopefully, our continued prayers will convince the Holy Father to grant, at least as a temporary measure, faculties to those who should have them in the salvation of souls.

Jay said...

The suspensions have not been lifted yet, the decree only addresses the excommunications. A juridical structure must be put in place. What the Pope could do is to grant a delegated jurisdiction to the Society bishops, with delegated jurisdiction to grant faculties for confessions while some type of universal apostolic administration or prelature is worked out and drawn up.
But since that hasn't happen, it is essentially moved back to 1988.

Thanks Athanasius for the explanations, we should pray all will be resolved soon in favour of full communion of the SSPX with the Holy See.

Anonymous said...

I have to laugh. Italians can be so dramatic.

Gregory DiPippo said...

Ratzenfreude at its best!! If people like this are weeping and upset, it is the best possible indicator that the Pope is doing something right!! Vivat Benedictus!!

Hebdomadary said...

Truly the Holy Father has been VERY couragaeous in doing this, and might well have run for fear of what the wolves would say and do in the media and in the church by way of reaction. Last night, late night here on the West (Left) Coast, I noted that Fox news was running a scandal-mongering piece featuring Bp. WIlliamson mouthing off about the Holocaust. Well, remembering Archbishop Milingo, it is evident that one doesn't have to be entirely sane to be a validly ordained Bishop...though unlike Milingo he'll be in good standing...but for how long, I wonder. I thought for a long time that he and Bp. Fellay were doing a "good-cop, bad-cop" routine, but in light of this latest interview, if it's new, he may be delusional. And I'm a supporter:-/

Upate: I note, however, that it's not all over the Sunday Morning talk shows. Not that I pay any attention to media opinion, but they MAY have a field day with itnext week.

Hebdomadary said...

Here's a point of apologetics that may be useful in defense of the Holy Father, should the subject come up in conversation amongst ones separated brethren. And in truth, it's important to remember relative to alot of people: I will use myself as the guinea pig in the statement, and use America as basis of the syllogism

In the eyes of many many, Bp. Williamson's comments on the Holocaust place him on a similar footing to the American Nazi Party, or at least sympathetic to Arian anti-semitic views. I could not disagree with him more, nor do I share the opinions of such people. However, the Arians and white separatists enjoy the same rights and protections under the United States Constitution as those who they despise and who disagree with them. Similarly, justice demands that the church protect those who adhere to her doctrins and dogmas, whether she disagrees with their political opinion or not.

This equation can be remembered through the use of a simple mnemonic device, WWTACLUD? (What would the American Civil Liberties Union Do?). I once met a very liberal college professor who, at the fall of apartheid, was frequently brought to South Africa to give seminars on integration and generally get the two parties to begin talking to one another. His view: "I don't care whether you're a racist or not, just keep your hands off my civil rights."

One last point: a guard dog left out in the yard, starved, hit occaisionally and generally taunted, will in all liklihood, become mean. That is what happened to the traditionalists around the world. In fact they were let off their leash, in the hopes that they would wander off. But their loyalty kept them always looking towards the house where they used to live. The dog has out in the yard ALL WINTER. The guard dog has to be brought in off the porch, or the BIGGEST ASPCA AGENT OF THEM ALL is going to write the owner a citation that will take a LONG TIME to pay off. It's an act of justice.

Matthew said...

"Poor Gennari"?
Poor nothing. He apostatized, left the priesthood and now wants to continue being PRAISED for his "courageous" act of infidelity. He should have gone into hiding. Aristotle referred to men who are incapable of feeling shame for their misdeeds as "barbarians." Undoubtedly "poor Gennari" has made a good living all these years from his "shame."
Pope Benedict is a living saint.

OLOGS said...

Awful!!! A married priest! Why should you post this? This is scandalous! Who cares what a married priest has to say about the holy priests of the SSPX! I'm sure you can find something better than this.

Hebdomadary said...

"The gesture of Pope Ratzinger will cause a certain instability..."

As if the novus ordite church weren't unstable enough. Would the "prelate" like to know how unstable the situation is in MY diocese? We were bankrupted by pedophelia and pederasty. Nice church they've made here. Really good. So stable. I'd send in the Vicars Apostolic and be done with the California diocesan church were I pope, and thie "prelate" wouldn't be my choice for Vicar!

And finally this "prelate" utters the truth we've known all along, their "fear" that the Holy mass will become ordinary is what has been behind their obstruction and obfuscation all along, behind their mask of Pastoral Concern. Well. We all have our political side...theirs is becoming clearer all the time.

Anonymous said...

What is worse? To ignore Pope Paul VI and John Paul II, or to ignore the hundreds before them instead?

VirgoPotens said...

"I fear that it will consolidate what two years ago was only an extraordinary rite."
Giddy up!

"The entry of the Lefebvrists cannot but undermine the path made since Vatican II."
Ibid.

"Moreover, it is like ignoring the work of Paul VI and John Paul II."
Biting my tongue...

"Pope Wojtyla, before reaching the decision of excommunicating him, promoted a kind of internal query within the episcopate, ending at the 1984 indult."
"Pope Wojtyla" (what are you, a sedeagnosticist?) also called together a commission of cardinals to determine whether the Latin Mass had ever been abrogated. He then hid the results for 10 years before Cardinal Stickler (RIP) finally leaked them. So, can we stop falling all over ourselves to say how great Pope JPII was for Tradition?

"It will expand even the movement towards the ancient rite, creating ulterior uneasiness, at a theological and pastoral level, in the parishes."
Well, then ask yourself: why the uneasiness? What are the theological differences between the old ways and the new? Is one way objectively wrong? If so, please enlighten us all with your comments.

Hebdomadary said...

VirgoPotens: Amen.

Dr. Tom said...

Gennari reminds me of the older brother in the Gospel parable who is furious that the Father has received the prodigal son with open arms.

Diego said...

Thank God that "It will expand even the movement towards the ancient rite, creating ulterior uneasiness, at a theological and pastoral level, in the parishes"!

Anonymous said...

With the SSPX officially recognised as being back in the church, look to see the the liberal-democratic Americanist monster get a fatal punch in the guts.

David A. Werling said...

Gennari, after all, knows best how Christ should use His mercy. Maybe there are others that Gennari can decree deserve no mercy? Who does he think he is? God?

Anonymous said...

Boo Hoo Hoo Gennari.

Maybe I ship you a crate of Kleenex tissues to keep you supplied, because I have a feeling you and other rad liberals and dissenters will be doing alot more crying in the coming months from what I've heard might be coming from the Vatican.

The restoration of the SSPX is just the tip of the iceberg.

Your tears will really be flowing.