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The new SSPX Rosary Crusade

In his latest Letter to Friends and Benefactors (in French, dated April 15, 2009), the Superior General of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX), Bishop Bernard Fellay, after some strong words about those enemies of the Church (inside and outside Church institutions) who have been trying to undermine the Pope's efforts of reconciliation, proposes another Rosary Crusade, much larger than the other two previous Crusades:
"It seems to us that the moment is come to launch a substantial offensive, deeply anchored in the message of Our Lady at Fatima, in which she herself promised the happy ending, for she announces that, in the end, her Immaculate Heart will triumph. It is this triumph that we ask her, by the means that she herself requests, the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart by the Supreme Shepherd and all the bishops of the Catholic world, and the propagation of the devotion to her Dolorous and Immaculate Heart. It is for this that we wish to offer her, with this purpose, from now to March 25, 2010, a bouquet of 12 million Rosaries, as a crown of as many stars around her, accompanied by an equivalent sum of daily sacrifices that we may be able to fulfill most of all in the faithful accomplishment of the duties of our state of life, and with the promise to propagate the devotion to her Immaculate Heart."

FULL ENGLISH VERSION (SSPX - UNITED KINGDOM):
Just as we were launching a second Rosary Crusade at our Lourdes pilgrimage last October, we hardly expected such a swift answer from Heaven! As for the Vicar of Christ’s Motu Proprio liberating the traditional Mass, our second entreaty was answered even more swiftly by the Blessed Virgin, because on the very same visit I made to Rome in January to put in the Sovereign Pontiff’s hands our bouquet of 1,703,000 Rosaries, Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos put in my own hands the decree lifting the “excommunications” of 1988!

That is something we had asked for back in 2001, as a sign of good will on the part of the Vatican towards the Traditional movement. For, ever since the Council, everything Traditional or seeking to be Traditional in the Church has been undergoing one vexation after another, up to and including our being cast into exile. Naturally that undermined partially or even totally, ones trust in the Roman authorities. As long as that trust is not partially restored, as I said at the time, the relations between Rome and ourselves will hardly exist. Trust is not just a nice feeling, it is a fruit that grows all on its own when one can recognize in the Roman authorities shepherds who have the interests of everything Traditional at heart. That was the meaning of our two preliminary requests. It is impossible to understand our present position and attitude towards the Holy See if one does not take into account the state of crisis prevailing in the Church, which is no superficial matter, nor just a personal opinion. It is a reality quite independent of our way of looking at it, which is admitted now and again by those authorities, and verified all the time by the facts. There are numerous and varied aspects to the crisis, some profound, some merely circumstantial, but everyone suffers from it. What strikes the faithful above all are the updated liturgical ceremonies—very often scandalous, alas! and the day-to-day preaching from the pulpit of positions on moral questions in direct contradiction to the age-old teaching of the Church and the example of the Saints. Very often parents have been grieved by their children’s losing the Faith, after having been entrusted to Catholic schools, or by their almost complete ignorance of Catholic doctrine, thanks to the lack of any proper catechism. A countless number of members of religious orders, through their Constitutions having been re-written and their minds re-trained according to Vatican II, show that they have lost the spirit of the Gospel, in particular, self-renunciation, poverty and sacrifice. This loss has almost immediately resulted in such a falling off of vocations that a number of Orders and Congregations are closing their houses one after another, or disappearing altogether. The situation of many dioceses is just as dramatic.

All of which forms a coherent whole that did not happen merely by chance, but arose out of a Council setting out to reform everything, and claiming to bring even the Church up to date. Yet we are accused of either seeing a crisis where there is none, or of wrongly blaming the Council for a disastrous and enormously serious situation which anyone can recognize, or again of profiting by that situation to justify a wrongful attitude of rebellion and independence.

On the contrary, pick up the writings of the Church Fathers, or the Magisterium, or the Liturgy or Theology down the ages, and you find a unity of teaching and example to which we cleave with all our heart. This unity of doctrine is in practice heavily contradicted, thwarted and attacked by present ways of doing things. We are not imagining things when we say there has been a break. The break is all too real. To observe how the Bishops of certain countries treat us even after the “excommunications” were withdrawn, is enough for one to see how deeply the up-dated churchmen reject anything that smacks of Tradition. The only name that can be given to such an occurrence is a break with the past.

For again, as surprising as was the appearance of the Decree of January 21, just as astonishing was the violence of the reaction of the progressives and leftists in general with regard to ourselves. By Bishop Williamson’s unfortunate words they may well have been handed a golden opportunity to smear the whole Society of St. Pius X and to treat it as a scapegoat, but the truth of the matter is that we were merely an instrument in a much more important struggle, the struggle of Mother Church, truly called the Church Militant , against the evil spirits prowling through the atmosphere, as St. Paul says. It is no presumption on our part to say the Society has just now been playing a part in Church history, the history of the titanic struggle for the salvation of souls, announced in the Book of Genesis and described so dramatically in the Revelation of St. John. Normally this struggle confines itself to the spiritual domain, but every now and again it flows over from words and souls into the bodily domain, and then it becomes visible, as with open persecutions.

In all that has happened these last few months we should see a particularly intense moment of this struggle. It is clear as clear can be that the main target being aimed at is the Vicar of Christ as he attempts to undertake a certain restoration of the Church. A coming together of the Head of the Church and the Traditional movement is much feared, as is any going back on the novelties of Vatican II, so everything possible is done to prevent it. What does the Pope truly think? What position is he taking? Jews and progressives want to force him to choose between Vatican II and ourselves…. to such a point that to re-assure them, the Secretariat of State could find nothing better than to lay down as a necessary condition for our canonical re-instatement the complete acceptance of what we consider to be the main source of the current problems we have always been opposed to!.... Yet those churchmen are bound, as are we all, by the Anti-modernist Oath and all the other Church condemnations of modern novelties. Thus we refuse to approach Vatican II from any other angle than that of the Solemn Declarations (Profession of Faith and Anti-modernist Oath) drawn up before God and the Church. And if the Council is incompatible with such Declarations, then it is the novelties that must be wrong. We are relying on the up-coming doctrinal discussions to clarify these points as much as possible.

Profiting from the new situation arising from the withdrawal of the “excommunications” which has actually left the canonical status of the Society unchanged, several Bishops try to square the circle by demanding that we obey Canon Law to the letter on every point, as though we were perfectly in order, at the same time as they declare we have no canonical existence! One German Bishop has announced that by year’s end the Society will once more be out of the Church… Nice of him! In fact the only possible solution is the one we already asked for, namely an intermediary status, necessarily incomplete and canonically imperfect, but generally accepted as being intermediary, without our having to be constantly accused of disobedience and rebellion, without our having ridiculous prohibitions thrown at us. When all is said and done, one more proof that the Church finds itself in an abnormal state, which we call a state of necessity, is the present words and deeds of certain Bishops with regard to the Pope and Tradition.

So how will things develop from here? We have no idea. We stand by our proposal to accept our present imperfect situation as being temporary, even while we enter into the doctrinal discussions that have been announced, in the hope that they will bear fruit.

But on this difficult path, in the face of such violent opposition, we ask you, dear faithful, once more to resort to prayer. It seems to us that the moment has come to launch a major offensive, firmly anchored in the message of Our Lady at Fatima, where she promised us success, announcing that in the end her Immaculate Heart will triumph. This is the triumph we are asking her for by the means she herself requested, namely the Consecration of Russia to Her Immaculate Heart by the Supreme Pastor and all the Bishops of the Catholic world, and the spread of the devotion to her Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart. So for this purpose we wish to offer her by March 2010 a bouquet of 12 million Rosaries, like a crown of 12 million stars all around her, to be accompanied by a similar quantity of daily sacrifices to be drawn above all from the faithful accomplishment of our duty of state, while we promise to spread the devotion to her Immaculate Heart. We are firmly convinced that if we take care to do what she says, we will obtain much more than we could ever have hoped, and above all we will make sure of our salvation by benefiting from the graces she has promised us.

So we ask also of our priests a special effort to make this devotion easier of access for our faithful, by putting the accent not only on the Communion of Reparation of the first Saturdays of the month, but also on living very close to Our Lady through the consecration to her Immaculate Heart. It would also be good to know better and to deepen the spirituality of Fr. Maximilian Kolbe, the great herald of the Immaculate.

Our Society was consecrated to the Immaculate Heart 25 years ago this year. We wish to renew this happy initiative of Fr. Schmidberger by wholly devoting ourselves to that Heart and by reviving our own hearts in this spirit. Obviously we are not going to tell Providence what it should do, but we have learned from the examples set by the Saints and in Scripture itself that to have great desires can bring forward the designs of the good Lord in a remarkable way. Thus today we make bold to entrust this intention to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, by asking her to take you all under her motherly protection. May God bless you abundantly!

On the feast of the glorious Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ,

Winona, Easter 2009

+Bernard Fellay

53 comments:

Guadalupe Guard said...

I find it inappropriate and an unnecessary distraction to tie the entire restoration of Tradition to any private revelation, but especially one as politically controverted as Fatima.

The liberals may have their nondogmatic (and in their case nonCatholic)"superdogmas" but the traditionalists do to, most especially the nondogmatic superdogma of the secrets of Fatima.

Margaret said...

+UIOGD God bless Fellay in this, for years this request has been ignored by the Papacy! Only heaven can correct the apostasy within Holy Mother Church on such a grand scale. The worm has gone so deep, and the wounds to the priesthood, her army, are so severe. She is the recourse God has given us, let us pray with all our hearts and minds. ¡Viva Cristo Rey! Margaret

Paul Haley said...

Count me in, Your Excellency, and may Our Blessed Mother assist us in our hour of need.

Prodinoscopus said...

Impressive. God bless Bishop Fellay. This is most welcomed news.

Joe B said...

YES! This is the stake we all know needed to be driven into Satan's heart! And it starts with SSPX, whose record for Our Lady's intervention is well attested to.

What a true son of Our Lady!

LeonG said...

Bishop Fellay, alongside many other faithful Roman Catholic clergy, rightly intimates the absolute necessity of actively heeding Our Blessed Lady's admonitions at Fatima. As elsewhere, Her well-synchronised warnings are not to the secular world which would not recognise Her but to The Church faithful and its leaders. Therefore, it borders on unimaginable recklessness that these inconvenient and embarrassing messages have been charmed away out of our sight as allegedly no longer relevant to our supposedly ecumenical, syncretist, "enlightened" and "humanitarian" age.

Unfortunately, to the further unease of our ecclesiastical hierarchy LaSalette and Akita bring similar tidings of great woe. The rotten fruits of our ignorance and avoidance techniques are haunting us all now both in the church and in the world.

Padre Pio, St Pio of Pietrelcina who recited thirty or more Rosaries a day told us that it was the sure remedy for evil in our times. We know The Holy Mass is too but so many of these are no longer holy & The Holy Mass is vanishing out of sight in many places in the world. Many of us cannot get to Holy Mass regularly because of this appalling situation. It is almost as though the great stigmatist understood what was taking place in his later years to recommend to so high a degree the daily recitation of such a potent prayer.

Indeed, the enemies of The Church are both inside and outside of it today. Abominations are rampant everywhere with invalid and illicit "Masses" everyday and every Sunday, while sodomy and infanticide in the womb escalate exponentially. Materialism abounds and current human greed has no limits. The Church is besieged on every side and from within. Only Our Blessed Mother can help us in this great hour of need. Thankfully, She makes The Holy Rosary available to us all.

Anonymous said...

Guadalupe Guard said...

"I find it inappropriate and an unnecessary distraction to tie the entire restoration of Tradition to any private revelation, but especially one as politically controverted as Fatima."

I agree, I think it is inappropriate and an enormous distraction. To think, if this is the key to restoration of tradition, then why did we not all begin years ago? Perhaps a rosary crusade would of stopped the Council altogether.

Prodinoscopus said...

So, Guadalupe Guard, perhaps we should be done with Rosary crusades altogether, since the Rosary itself comes to us by way of a nondogmatic private revelation.

M.A. said...

Yes! I first heard about this on Angelqueen, and I have been anxiously awaiting an official announcement. I will most certainly be participating, and I would encourage everyone reading this blog to get involved if you really believe the words of Our Mother that in the end her Immaculate Heart would triumph, Russia would be converted, (to the Catholic Faith) and a period of peace would be granted to mankind.

Woody Jones said...

Count me in, Excellency.

Dan Hunter said...

Count me in as well Your Excellency.
This is such an important matter since the Mother of God has asked the Church to consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart.

It is hard to fathom that the Holy Father has not done this already.
Pope Pius XII did not do it neither did any of his successors.
Let us pray that Pope Benedict XVI along with all the bishops of the world does this Consecration of Russia, by name, to Her Immaculate Heart.

I shall write to the bishop of my diocese about issuing a statement about this to all the faithful.

This is not some ,"superdogma" as Quadalupe Guard wrongly asserts, that Catholics believe, but rather obedience to the wishes of God.
Is the Church supposed to ignore this?

Thank you Bishop Fellay!

Ottaviani said...

I find it inappropriate and an unnecessary distraction to tie the entire restoration of Tradition to any private revelation, but especially one as politically controverted as Fatima.While it is true that some traditionalist quarters have inadvertently made Fatima into a "superdogma", the revelations of Our Lady in that hallowed place are more than important than ever and Fatima has received the veneration of many popes since it happened.

Especially in a time when many false apparitions are drawing people away from authentic Catholicism, we would do well to revisit Fatima and heed Our Lady's warnings. Unfortunately what Fatima represented was something that did not fit in with John XXIII's aggiornamento and as a result, the church paid the price.

It is never too late to turn to Our Lady. She will help us get out of this mess.

thetimman said...

Cool!

Jordanes said...

So, Guadalupe Guard, perhaps we should be done with Rosary crusades altogether, since the Rosary itself comes to us by way of a nondogmatic private revelation.Even if one holds that Our Lady's request for the consecration of Russia has already been accomplished, there can be no harm whatsoever in offering Rosaries for the sake of the Church and the people of Russia. This crusade is not a bad thing, but a good thing.

(By the way, the legend that St. Dominic received the Rosary devotion through a private revelation has no basis in history. In origin it's the Dominicans' chaplet of Our Lady, but it can't be attributed to St. Dominic himself.)

schoolman said...

It does seem to distract from the immediate goal of the success of the doctrinal talks. It would seem more appropriate to pray that the talks are fruitful. This new "crusade" comes off as putting another condition on the Pope -- indeed, on the Blessed Mother herself! It would seem that a "state of necessity" will last as long as there is turmoil and struggles in the Church. But this has always been the case since day one.

Anonymous said...

I thought a Rosary Crusade for the success of the talks with Rome would have been more prudent. If anything this Rosary Crusade could hinder talks with the Vatican, given that certain elements in the Curia are not kindly dispossed me thinks to Fatima.

Anonymous said...

The origin of the Rosary is unknown. Whatever the case, it did not come about through a private revelation, to St. Dominic or anyone else.
Why not simply pray the Rosary?
Why not simply pray to Our Lady?
Why this rather ludicrous quantification?
Why not pray along with the Bishops in the Church who were so consecrated as the result of a Papal mandate, and not following upon an act of supreme disobedience?

Anonymous said...

I am an SSPXer who doesn't trust Bishop Fellay and anything he says or does any more.

Paul Haley said...

The power of prayer:

Therefore I say unto you, all things, whatsoever you ask when ye pray, believe that you shall receive; and they shall come unto you.Ask, and it shall be given you: seek, and you shall find: knock, and it shall be opened to you. For every one that asketh, receiveth: and he that seeketh, findeth: and to him that knocketh, it shall be opened.Coupled with these quotes is the Memorare, to wit:

Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary,that never was it known that any one who fled to thy protection,implored thy help or sought thy intercession, was left unaided. Inspired with this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins my Mother; to thee do I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful; O Mother of thy Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy clemency hear and answer me. Amen.At that very moment, at dawn on October 7, 1571-- as Vatican Archives later revealed--Pope Pius V, accompanied by many faithful, was praying the Rosary in the Basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore. From dawn to dusk the prayers continued in Rome as the Christians and the Muslims battled at Lepanto. When it was all over the Muslims had been defeated. Of some 270 Moslem ships, at least 200 were destroyed. The Turks also lost 30,000 men while Christian casualties numbered between 4,000 and 5,000.Following the great Christian victory at Lepanto, Pope St. Pius V declared that henceforth a commemoration of the Rosary would be a part of the Vatican's Mass on every October 7. His successor, Pope Gregory XIII, went further. In 1573 he established the Feast of the Most Holy Rosary--to be celebrated at all Churches which had specific altars dedicated to the Rosary.

As a result of the previous Rosary Crusade we have seen the lifting of the excommunications. Is there any doubt that this Crusade is also going to result in victory? Methinks not.

Prodinoscopus said...

I'm astounded at those in this forum who put "the success of the talks" above heeding the request of Our Lady.

Anonymous said...

A rosary crusade, "rooted in the message of Our Lady of Fatima", for the consecration of Russia and the propagation of devotion to Mary's "sorrowful and immaculate heart"?

I must say this leaves me rather baffled.

Wouldn't a rosary crusade, rooted in the message of the Gospel, for the reunion of divided Christians have been the more obvious choice?

Anonymous said...

I find that this proposal of Bishop Fellay is entirely appropriate. But what is he trying to do here? It is clear enough. Forces within the Society have threatened rebellion. Some are in France, and there is Fr. Cériani, and there are the two who have been expelled. Many in the Society are worried that Bishop Fellay and his collaborators are planning a 'sell-out' of the Society.

These fears are unfounded. The fact is that Bishop Fellay has stayed with the programme set by all four bishops and has not wavered. He has surrendered to Modernists in Rome on absolutely nothing.

Nonetheless, the fears within the Society are real enough and there is always the danger of schisms, even if all the changes come from the Rome side entirely. So he needs a way to concentrate unity. It needs to be something that traditionalists all agree on and something Rome can't oppose on priniciple.

Our first respondent here is mistaken about this matter. While it's true that matters of private revelation are not dogmatic, popes and other prelates in the Church have favoured some revelations owing to the probability of their correctness. Fatima is one of the best examples of this. Popes have claimed to have fulfilled the consecration at least twice but have never done it as requested. What could be possibly be wrong with doing it properly?

It is said that the handling of the Fatima matter was one of the two things Benedict XVI regretted the most before his election. I am supposing that he has consulted with Bishop Fellay on this in advance. We shall see.

P.K.T.P.

Carlos Antonio Palad said...

Given that Pope Benedict XVI, as Joseph Ratzinger, had played a leading role in the past 20+ years in asserting that the Consecration of Russia was already done in 1984, as well as in the claimed release of the Third Secret (and the accompanying official letters on, and interpretations of, Fatima, which asserted the correctness of the 1984 consecrations) in 2000, this letter is very, very daring -- it basically implies that the current Pope has lied to, and misled, the faithful regarding Fatima.

Perhaps I am just reading too much into this, but I am wondering if this is not also a test case that the SSPX is presenting to the Holy See. Could it be that the SSPX is testing to what extent the Pope will be willing to reverse an official document of the post-Vatican II Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (in this case, the "Message of Fatima" released in 2000)?

Summorum Pontificum included no similar reversals since Rome never officially abrogated the Classical Roman Rite, and the lifting of the excommunications did not entail any admission by the Vatican that it was wrong in 1988. This time, the SSPX seems to be indirectly asking the Holy See to reverse its official stance on something that may not be of primary theological importance, but which does affect the credibility and authority of the Holy See post-1965.

If the Holy See will not be willing to admit that it was in error in 2000 regarding the proper interpretation of Fatima and its demands, then much less will be the chance that the Holy See will reconsider its stance on Vatican II.

Anonymous said...

Dear Jordanes,
Surely you have included the note on St.Dominic to cause doubt, no?

What do you know about the history of Our Lady's Psalter?

Those studies I have read that dispute the account from St. Dominic for lack of evidence also decry the Catholic Popes that endorsed the Dominican account over the centuries, saying the Popes didn't really look into the matter; that they didn't really know what they were talking about. N.B. some of those Popes are canonized saints.

There are good counter arguments which refute the nay sayers and that do indeed provide minor historical evidence to support St. Dominic; plus of course uphold the Catholic Church's historical endorsement.

The naysayers have no evidence and that is the basis of their argument. Period. They lack faith!

St. Dominic faught heresy using the Psalter of Our Lady. Let us do the same. The Rosary is not just some pius meditation but a weapon for the Church Militant. Mary steps on the snake's head! Bishop Fellay understands this.

FYI, as an aside the Russians recently released KGB documents verifying Dr. Bella Dodd's story.

Diabolical disorientation.

In Christ,
Jerry, TOSF

Paul Haley said...

This new "crusade" comes off as putting another condition on the Pope -- indeed, on the Blessed Mother herself.We are asking for Our Lady's help and assistance - nothing more and nothing less. Putting another condition on the pope? No, I don't think so. The first Rosary Crusade was successful; let's hope this one will be as well. For many of the participants in this forum the Conversion of Russia is a worthy goal to pray for.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Palad:

On the contrary, there is a direct contradiction between the claim in "Summorum Pontificum" that the old Mass was never abrogated and the claim in the Instruction "De Missali Romano", No. 2, 1971, that the old Mass was not allowed except for ageing and retired priests. Both cannot be correct and yet both are declared to be law. Clearly, Benedict XVI has contradicted Paul VI. Will he now contradict John Paul II? It is said that the Fatima affair was one of two things that Cardinal Ratzinger regretted in terms of commands issued by the last Pope.

P.K.T.P.

Dan Hunter said...

Mr Palad,

Please do not underestimate the extreme power of the Rosary.
Seriously.

God bless you.

Dan Hunter said...

I just finished praying the first rosary for the Consecration.

Oliver said...

Modern Rome is not interested in such a project after Wojtyla closed the Fatima file. I suspect Fellay is keeping the rank and file subdued saying its rosaries while he has more cosy tate-a-tates with the small 'trad' set in Rome. One would think that the dialogue would be over before it started but we all know about things said for internal and external consumption.

Anonymous said...

Anon 15:52

I'm with you. This "crusade" is busy work for the "faithful".

Anonymous said...

Certains mess(SINS) that men do can only be undone by God.....

After the Fall and the corruption of the descendants of Adam.....men could not get out by himself....God had to intervene...by the DELUGE to clean the earth....likewise today...we need the intervention of HEAVEN to save men of the MESS (VATICAN II) that is corrupting the whole of mankind...for as goes Rome..so does the world...

YES, the weapons of heaven are needed to fight the sins of men....and what better weapon than the one given to St Dominic by Our Lady??!!!

Modernists hate the Rosary and Our Lady.....so let us use this weapon from heaven against them....for HER IMMACULATE HEART to triumph!

Prodinoscopus said...

Please bear in mind the precise and stated objective of this Rosary crusade: the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Why anyone would question the appropriateness and necessity of such a crusade is beyond me.

Jordanes said...

Surely you have included the note on St.Dominic to cause doubt, no?Correct -- the answer to your question is obviously "No." My comment was in reference to Prodinoscopus' statement that the Rosary was delivered to St. Dominic through a private revelation of Our Lady. The point, as always, is to get at truth, not cause doubt. There is no historical evidence to support that much later legend, and what we know of the development of the Rosary shows that the legend cannot be literally true. The Rosary as the popes "canonised" it certainly did not exist in that form prior to that, and thus could not have been delivered to St. Dominic in that form.

Those studies I have read that dispute the account from St. Dominic for lack of evidence also decry the Catholic Popes that endorsed the Dominican account over the centuries, saying the Popes didn't really look into the matter; that they didn't really know what they were talking about. N.B. some of those Popes are canonized saints.I've never read any such "decrying" of the Catholic popes who sincerely believed the old legend. And the fact that they are canonised saints or popes does not prove anything -- popes may hold all manner of opinions in matters that do not pertain to the Faith, such as the question of whether or not St. Dominic received the Rosary devotion through a private revelation.

There are good counter arguments which refute the nay sayers and that do indeed provide minor historical evidence to support St. Dominic; plus of course uphold the Catholic Church's historical endorsement.There is no such historical endorsement of the Catholic Church. The Church has neither confirmed nor denied this matter, nor should She, as this question has nothing to do with the Faith -- it's not a doctrine of the Faith to which one must assent, and the Faith remains true whether or not Our Lady ever really delivered this chaplet to St. Dominic.

The naysayers have no evidence and that is the basis of their argument. Period. They lack faith!There is no need to have faith in something that does not pertain to the Faith. You may believe that if you wish, even though there isn't any evidence to support it, and the historical record tells us things that do not agree with the legend. That the Dominican Order did not receive their chaplet directly from Our Lady doesn't make the Rosary any less powerful or profitable, nor take anything at all away from the repeated endorsements and recommendations of the popes.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I am an SSPXer who doesn't trust Bishop Fellay and anything he says or does any more.

25 April, 2009 15:52

So am I, and I have lost trust in Bishop Fellay, also (and why I must remain anonymous, sadly). Of course a rosary crusade is noble and good, but it is beginning to appear that it is being used as some sort of strategy or tool either as part of 'negotiating'(but the Faith cannot be negotiated, you see) or as occupying the faithful to deflect any questioning or division. I am surprised that so many blindly hail this newest crusade without question, but then how clever, really, because one will not earn any sympathy with the majority by stepping forward to differ, because by doing so, they seem to be doubting Our Lady. So very clever, as we the faithful are now between a rock and a hard place. Let those who will defend Our Lord and the true faith step forward.

Lhd said...

Excellent news. Fatima is an approved apparition, authenticated with one of the most outstanding miracle ever seen (the miracle of the sun)and with the constant attention payed by all the Popes since his occurrence. The Virgin Mary will crush the head of the serpent we read at Genesis 3, 15. But don't be misled: the era of peace that is promised is of an eschatological dimension: "And he will judge between the nations, and will decide concerning many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more" (Is. 2,4)

Prodinoscopus said...

I'm saddened by the cynics who see nothing in this Rosary crusade but a political ploy. Please take note the result that Bishop Fellay seeks "above all", which is the salvation of souls:

We are firmly convinced that if we take care to do what she says, we will obtain much more than we could ever have hoped, and above all we will make sure of our salvation by benefiting from the graces she has promised us.Instead of accusing Bishop Fellay of selling out to modernist Rome (how can you possibly know that?), why not just take a leap of Faith and participate in the crusade? PRAY THE ROSARY AND OFFER SACRIFICES DRAWN FROM THE SWEAT AND TOIL OF DAILY LIFE. It's what our Blessed Mother asks of us. It's what Sister Lucia did. Let's just do it.

I'm not associated with the SSPX, nor even the FSSP. I'm chained to the pseudo-altar of Baal by reason of unavoidable circumstances (although I will never abandon the True Altar of Sacrifice, at least not in spirit). I have great hope in Bishop Fellay and the SSPX. Please pray for me.

Anonymous said...

Private Revelation? The miracle of the sun at Fatima was not private! What would have happened to France if Joan of Arc had not obeyed her voices? If the Dauphin would have refused to listen to that “private revelation”?
Our Lord asked the king of France (through St. Margaret Mary) to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart.Do you know the consequences of their disobedience?
Saint Thomas Aquinas addresses this question (I think)in the Summa when he writes on prophecy. Is this a consipiracy theory?

Anonymous said...

Felley is throwing in a 'red herring' - Let them discuss the differences they have with the Church ! Better the rosaries be offered for those poor victims of that Italian earthquake ! And quite frankly Felley is not the best qualified person to represent the discussions on behalf of the Society of St Pius X. Williamson or Tisser would be the best to represent it. Felley, you see never studied philosophy or theology at a properly recognised Seminary whereas Williamson and Tisser studied at a properly recognised Catholic Theological Faculty in Switzerland. Felley studied under 'self educated' teachers at Econe. Most of the teachers there 'taught' subjects that they were not qualitied to teach. For example , Williamson taught, believe it or not, Canon law.

Jamie

Paul said...

"It would also be good to know better and to deepen the spirituality of Fr. Maximilian Kolbe, the great herald of the Immaculate."

Saint Maximilian Kolbe, M.I., explained that ecumenism is the enemy of the Immaculata for, he insisted, "There is no greater enemy of the Immaculata and her Knighthood than today’s ecumenism, which every Knight must not only fight against, but also neutralize through diametrically opposed action and ultimately destroy. We must realize the goal of the Militia Immaculata as quickly as possible: that is, to conquer the whole world, and every individual soul which exists today or will exist until the end of the world, for the Immaculata, and through her for the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus."

Noteworty too, is the release of HE's Letter to Friends & Benefactors today, April 25, the Feast of St. Mark the Evangelist which marks the 18th anniversary of Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer of Campos, Brazil who passed to his eternal reward exactly one month from Archbishop Lefebvre's passing to his eternal reward on the Feast of the Announciation March 25, 1991.

Also, we can commence the devotion of First Saturday Reparation to the Sorrowful & Immaculate Heart of Mary this coming Saturday, May 2.
"It would also be good to know better and to deepen the spirituality of Fr. Maximilian Kolbe, the great herald of the Immaculate."

Saint Maximilian Kolbe, M.I., explained that ecumenism is the enemy of the Immaculata for, he insisted, "There is no greater enemy of the Immaculata and her Knighthood than today’s ecumenism, which every Knight must not only fight against, but also neutralize through diametrically opposed action and ultimately destroy. We must realize the goal of the Militia Immaculata as quickly as possible: that is, to conquer the whole world, and every individual soul which exists today or will exist until the end of the world, for the Immaculata, and through her for the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus."
What exquisite timing in all these developments.

Anonymous said...

Jordanes has said, "You may believe that if you wish, even though there isn't any evidence to support it, and the historical record tells us things that do not agree with the legend."

Out of charity I would ask all the readers to do their own research and determine your own conclusions. I will stand by my argument - there is supportive evidence and Our Lady did speak to St. Dominic in some fashion about the Rosary.

I do find it difficult to understand how Jordanes would conclude that my comments are to be proportioned to articles of Faith of the Church.
Nevertheless,please understand that is not what I meant.

I have faith that what the Popes speak of more or less consistently over hundreds of years is correct...no upgrading needed. This to me is the Church's endorsement I spoke of.

I reject novelty and am very cautious about V2. I won't say the luminous mysteries for example. It truly bothers that many in the Church now accept as normal what was rejected outright before.

I will say the Rosary for the intentions of Bishop Fellay. I pray the Pope gives the SSPX faculties asap.

Sincerely yours in Christ,
Jerry, TOSF

Gideon Ertner said...

"The true faith"

Or would that be an idiosyncratic version of it heavily admixed with baroque romanticism (the mindless reaction to the French Revolution), authoritarianism, xenophobia, and nationalism; spiced with a good deal of pride, paranoia and apocalyptic obsessions; and perhaps with a pinch of Jansenism thrown in?

Anonymous said...

I support Bishop Fellay 100%.

The Society has been very good to me. They stepped in to help me when no one else would. For all their alleged faults most priests live the Gospel in their hearts and practice.

I find subtle put downs of the Blessed Mother, her apparitions and the Rosary to be scented with sulfur.

C_of_D

Anonymous said...

It's about time!!!

LeonG said...

Our Blessed Lady with Her powerful remedy for evil, The Holy Rosary is certainly no mere distraction. Our disobedience to Her magnificently well-synchronised admonitions have cost us dearly. One might respond to the scepticism and the apparent denigration of Her authentic & ecclesiastically approved apparitions that in many respects such attitudes are among those that corrode the faith of The Church from within and make it even more vulnerable to satanism.

It is only rank disobedience and willful arrogance that misleads others into following false apparitions that are not approved by The Church authorities: Medugorjie being an outstanding example of this.

That so few churchmen today appeal to conformity with Her Son's great gift of the Holy Virgin to us at the foot of The Cross of Calvary reveals a catastrophic failure by our leaders to obey Our Blessed Lord's own Will in regard to Her Motherly warnings. That the leader of a traditional confraternity should do so now is of immense significance since every event which transpires currently is rooted in the divine destiny for humankind of which those involving His Immaculate Mother are a fundamental part.

Moreover, when the holy father restored the Holy Mass in Latin without any ambiguities or fears of censure and when he undid the damaging acts of excommunication on the four bishops of the SSPX confraternity, he set in motion a movement that will eventually have enormous and positive consequences on the entire church. This has not been achieved without some necessary calculation on his behalf. Our Blessed Mother comes with this movement and so does Her beautiful prayer, The Most Holy Rosary, as we once used to call it before the debacle of the 1960s altered that. The same debacle that in many senses undermined Her unique position in The Church.

Further, it is not without immense significance, if one talks with exorcists in The Church, to discover that the moment Our Blessed Lady is appealed to during the course of some very problematic exorcisms, demons are unable to tolerate Her regard as Her purity cannot be withstood by such radical evil. It is as though they are being profoundly tortured by it. Therefore, to those who doubt Our Blessed Lady and who doubt Her effectiveness, they are such as a lamentably great number of our contemporary episcopate and clergy. They no longer believe but have been given over to following their own false ideas.

The role of Our Blessed Lady is integrally bound up with the ultimate defeat of the Devil and his minions. Her position demands the support of all the faithful. She gathers with Her Divine Son in these final harvests on Earth and scatters with Him the proud in the deceit of their hearts.

The Blessed Virgin and Her messages for disobedient man are no superdogma. They are the truth plain and simple. We are reckless, and this is demonstrably illustrated in our times, when we ignore Her motherly warnings.

What a stark contrast on one hand to hear German bishops (as elsewhere), allegedly in full communion with Rome, recounting heresies in the mass media; denying The Christ's pivotal role in human salvation and throwing down the gauntlet of rebellion to the papacy. Yet, on the other hand, we witness a traditional bishop, supposedly not in full communion, defending The Faith in its integrity; defending Our Blessed Lady's honour in Her requests to The Church and making public appeal to pray for The Church, the pope and the world, especially Russia.

Pray, what Roman Catholic could possibly be against that?

Anonymous said...

Count our family in Your Excellency! God bless the SSPX.

Jordanes said...

I will stand by my argument - there is supportive evidence and Our Lady did speak to St. Dominic in some fashion about the Rosary.Well, that's not an argument, but an assertion. If there had been some contemporary or near contemporary notices of the legend, it would be more credible. But no matter: nothing essential is gained or lost by believing or disbelieving the legend.

I do find it difficult to understand how Jordanes would conclude that my comments are to be proportioned to articles of Faith of the Church.So do I.

I have faith that what the Popes speak of more or less consistently over hundreds of years is correct...no upgrading needed. This to me is the Church's endorsement I spoke of.The Popes also spoke consistently over hundreds of years regarding the Donation of Constantine and various forged decretals, now known to be unhistorical. They even found their place in the Church's canon law.

I reject novelty and am very cautious about V2. I won't say the luminous mysteries for example.I pray the Rosary daily, using Our Lady's Psalter. I don't have anything against the Luminous Mysteries per se, but I find the symbolism of the Psalter, and the weekly cycle of Glorious; Joyful, Sorrowful, Glorious; Joyful, Sorrowful, Glorious; to be much more seemly and beautiful. Adding five new mysteries disrupts that rhythm and pattern.

It truly bothers that many in the Church now accept as normal what was rejected outright before.Same here.

Jordanes said...

Private Revelation? The miracle of the sun at Fatima was not private!In the sense that the Church uses the words "private revelation," yes, it most certainly was private. It's not a part of the Deposit of Faith and adds nothing to it, and Catholics do not have to give it the assent of faith. It is, of course, quite worthy of belief, and I can't imagine a Catholic who knows and understands what happened at Fatima not believing that it really happened.

Jim said...

His Excellency Bishop Fellay has now thrown down the gauntlet. It is now the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Society of Saint Pius X against Satan. For those who have the faith, we know how this turns out in the end.

My wife, five children, and I will certainly support this effort.

May God bless Bishop Fellay, the other three bishops, and all of the good and holy priests of the Society of Saint Pius X

Joe B said...

Jordanes, it seems you have no faith. You seem only to believe that which your intellect confirms. Please reassure us this isn't so.

We should cling to our traditions as strongly as our dogmas, antiquity, continuity, and good fruits being the 'dogmatic' criteria for it.

There is some very credible testimony that the Rosary, like most of our hallowed traditions, began with the Apostles. I believe the Apostle Saint Bartholomew was the first to be given a form of the Rosary by Our Lady, although it was of a much different form, and when he died it fell into disuse until it's time of general use came. But I'll leave the evidence out, as it surely would not suffice for legalistic minds. I prefer faith, to be honest. We're talking about the testimony of saints in these cases, and I should hope we would be comfortable erring on the side of faith even when proof is missing. I even suspect an error in good faith would carry greater rewards from Heaven than an intellectually correct position held against such an antique and beautiful tradition. Sort of like continuing to believe in Saints removed from our canons for lack of intellectual proof - an arrogant and insulting act, indeed, perpetrated out of mere doubt.

becket said...

God Bless Bishop Fellay!!.

Carlos Antonio Palad said...

"Mr Palad,

Please do not underestimate the extreme power of the Rosary.
Seriously.

God bless you."

Mr. Dan Hunter:

As someone who prays the Rosary daily, I am astounded by your baseless accusation.

Where did I say that I doubt the power of the rosary? Where? Show me a SINGLE sentence where I've even doubted its power.

How about learning how to READ CAREFULLY first instead of letting your bigotry get the better of you?

Carlos Antonio Palad said...

"Jordanes, it seems you have no faith. You seem only to believe that which your intellect confirms. Please reassure us this isn't so."


I have not seen any indication that Jordanes has denied so much as a single doctrine of the Church.

Jordanes said...

Joe B, your comment is insulting and ridiculous, and does not merit a response from me, except to invite you to consider the difference between faith and fideism.

Mr. Palad, thanks. Please note the comment awaiting moderation. Seems it's best if we close comments.