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"I worked under Cardinal Bernardin and he taught me how to collaborate..."

Albuquerque, NM. A majority of U.S. bishops disagree with the loud tactics of some of their peers in opposing President Barack Obama’s May appearance at the University of Notre Dame, but remain silent because they do not want to engage in a public battle over the issue, according to Archbishop Michael J. Sheehan of the Archdiocese of Santa Fe, NM....
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Lord have mercy.

43 comments:

Anonymous said...

Cardinal Bernardin, who had a front-and-center activist homosexual choir sing at at his funeral, was responsible to a much greater degree than any of his colleagues for the destruction of Holy Mother Church in the USA. Not sure I'd use his as a role model...unless it's a role model for heterodoxy and doctrine ambiguity.

Paul Haley said...

Count me among those who disagree with His Excellency. Combative tactics with Evil and with the snuffing out the lives of the innocent is just what we need. As for Cardinal Bernadin, well, my opinions on that man are better let unsaid.

Anonymous said...

I'm appalled that they were appalled! And it's always a "small minority," isn't it?

Quite frankly, and with all due respect to this Bishop, anyone that was a student of Cardinal Bernardin isn't worth listening to. Also, notice his age - he's part of a dying breed.

Deo gratias!

servusmariaen said...

I've always felt in my bones (though it's become painfully obvious) that the problems we've faced for the past 40 or so years is a lack of Catholic leadership and truly Catholic bishops. I read about truly Catholic bishops (in every sense of the word) from the past (Bishop Rudolf Graber of Regensburg, Germany comes to mind) and I feel as though this is the scourge of our time. I pray every day for a restoration of the Catholic Church.

T. McFadden said...

Well even liberal Bishop Trautman condemned Notre Dame's action, so I have no idea what this moran is talking about. Also, it was over 1/3 of the US episcopacy. Lastly, I guess this "bishop" would have denounced Christ for his "unnuanced" approach to the money changers in the Temple. These go along to get along bishops are a fester on the American Catholic Church.

Trisha in SD said...

One thing you can say about the Amish, their society reflects their beliefs.

This is exactly what's wrong with the Church today - it's so much like the society around it, that it has stopped being the life-preserving "salt" it was meant to be, and so it is only fit to be thrown out, to be trampled upon by men - and that's exactly what we see happening.

Please God, save us from such worldly-minded pastors!

Kindred Spirit said...

This problem is not a new one. One need only recall sixteenth century English history. Saint John Fisher was the only bishop to stand up for the Faith, this in a country which was, at least superficially, Catholic. Prayer and penance are what Our Lady has repeatedly requested. This is a battle for souls, and we must all fight.

Anonymous said...

Any holy priest who suffered the dry martyrdom of working 'under' Cardinal Bernardin & his Lavender Mafia proteges you what expiatory suffering REALLY is....

Johnny Domer said...

That is both shameful and disgusting. As a Notre Dame student who fought against the Obama invite and continues to be heavily involved in pro-life work, this just feels like a betrayal.

Anonymous said...

If, as Servusmariaen said, the problem is lack of truly Catholic bishops, should not one ask, "who appointed these men, and WHY"? The old saw that JPII was misled about these men's fitness for office just doesn't seem credible. Time for some accountability from the top. Benedict is the boss now and he can and should do something about this crisis of confidence which the Catholic people are experiencing regarding their bishops.

Jordanes said...

this just feels like a betrayal.

It feels like it because that's what it is. Pray for him and for all the bishops who are of like mind.

Anonymous said...

Bernardin is hardly an example of a Roman Catholic Cardinal or Bishop.

He would have made a good Episcopalian.....but Catholic?

NEVER.

Anonymous said...

I think it is sad that only few bishops and Catholics have condemned the pro-abortion stance of Obama.

I think it also sad that very few bishops and Catholics had condemned Bush's Iraq war policies. Killing innocent adults is just as bad as killing innocent fetuses. Only God has the right to take life away.

As Catholics, we should call a spade a spade and not let political parties (and their paid media hacks and organized media campaign organizations) sway our beliefs. The actions/beliefs of both presidents are very deplorable.

Jordanes said...

Killing innocent adults is just as bad as killing innocent fetuses.

Wrong. Only if the killing of innocent adults is intentional.

Only God has the right to take life away.

Wrong. St. Paul, speaking by the Holy Spirit, said that the civil authority does not bear the sword in vain. It is contrary to the Catholic faith to say that God alone has the right to take life.

Anonymous said...

On 6/17/2008 Archbishop Sheehan allowed a pagan Buffalo Dance around the altar in St. Francis Basilica. Couldn't find the photo which accompanied the story, but it showed Buffalo dancers dancing around the altar with Archbishop Sheehan looking on:

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/www/Flash/slideshow/061708MAS/soundslide.xml?cache=16529

Brian said...

I wonder what Archbishop Michael J. Sheehan thinks about Archbishop Weaklands new book.

The book doesn't seem to be upsetting "a majority of U.S. Bishops." I hope it is not a matter of birds of a feather . . .

Perhaps they just "do not want to engage in a public battle over the issue"

Andrew said...

Very nice, Jordanes. Blogs do serve a purpose....

Anonymous said...

Jordanes 23:30

Spot on!

ATW

Anonymous said...

As a fan of Marshal Petian and Vichy, I resent His Excellency's giving "collaboration" a bad name.

JAB said...

As a 2009 graduate of Notre Dame, and one of the few students who boycotted commencement, I'm sick of this talk. It's disgraceful.

I will say, however, that I know at least one bishop (of my home diocese at the time) who agreed with Bishop D'Arcy and supported him completely, but did not speak out publicly. Perhaps the many bishops who refrained from speaking out did so out of cowardice (like my home bishop) and not from some principled desire for "collaboration," as Sheehan suggests.

Rick DeLano said...

The statements, over the last few days, of Bishop D'Arcy and Archbishop Chaput, counterposed against that of the woeful Archbishop Sheehan, reveal that the de facto schism among the US bishops is heating up. And so it must, One cannot have two religions, after all, in one Body.

Bishop d'Arcy's comment is particularly pointed. He mentions the disgraceful Fr, Jenkins of Notre Shame's claim that inviting Obama would foster "dialogue" on abortion, and notes that he has never been made party to any such "dialogue".

It sounds very much like a Bishop just about to remind certain priests of what the difference is between them.

I certainly hope and pray that it will be so.

I think it would be a wonderfiul start to give Notre Shame a specific directive to replace Fr. Jenkins or be decertified as a Catholic insitution.

But let's be pastoral here, and give them, say, twelve hours to comply......

Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

LeonG said...

The US episcopate is so compromised that anyone with any sense of what Roman Catholicism really stands for can guess that most of them remain silent because they are either moral cowards or because they keep their heads down knowing they are implicated in one of the many criminal activities we have become accustomed to amongst the modernist hiearchy in these times.

The problem for a really good bishop today is that his cause is tainted with the hypocrisy of his colleagues. Either that or they oppose him as though he is a reprobate to be humiliated in public. Our Blessed Lady of Akita is validated on a daily basis in the neo-catholic establishment: cardinal against cardinal and bishop against bishop in a marshland of compromise. This is the contemporary social context into which the NO liturgy fits also.

Anonymous said...

Bernardin and Sheehan were both appointed by........JOHN PAUL II !!! (the "great").

Enough said.

Hestor said...

There is no state of emergency here. Move along!

*sarcasm*

Anonymous said...

Isn't this also referred to as "The Judas Syndrome?" After all, even when Our Blessed Lord walked the Earth, we know that at least 8% of the future original bishops of the Church were bad seeds.

Anonymous said...

Callaboration... what a buzzword that is for the Wal-Mart Discount Smiley Face Church of the Modern World...

Joseph

Anonymous said...

In the past I have given the "emergency situation" argument little little credit.

But with Obama now receiving a Cardinal's approval to speak from a pulpit at Holy Mass (in violation of the GIRM) to praise and laud Sen. Kennedy... Dear God...

How Long, O Lord, How Long?

I was much more happy when I was young and ignorant.

Anonymous said...

Bishop Martino to step down?
http://rockintraddy.blogspot.com/2009/08/bishop-martino-video-and-my-thoughts.html

Anonymous said...

This is insanity.
Archbishop Raymond Burke, along with other bishops, have clearly articulated the teaching of the Church re: Notre Dame and its honoring of a clearly "culture of death" U.S. President.
There is no "compromise" or "common ground" with the proponents of death. The culture of life rests within the arms of Holy Mother Church, Catholic and Apostolic.

sacerdos in germania said...

"the Wal-Mart Discount Smiley Face Church of the Modern World..."

Classic!

LeonG said...

The Vatican maintains a pregnant silence. The peal of complicity in North America is deafening. From Boston to New York, from California to Ontario. Nothing is said: no condemnation and certainly no affirmative action. Thus remains the liberal modernist immobilism of the last 45 years. Desolation and abominable behaviour are permitted free reign while perverted presidential eulogies of schismatic norms are aired in once sacred Catholic lieu at once solemn sacramental ceremonial. The neo-catholic bishop stands by admiringly in tacit approval.

If this is supposed to be a transitional epoch in the life of the church, we ought to sincerely inquire - transition into what?

David Werling said...

I stopped at the words: "...stories in the ongoing series, In Search of the Emerging Church."

The emerging the church that these people are looking for, what is it? Is it the Catholic Church? No, it can't be, that already emerged on Pentecost Sunday. What then? This emerging church is the church of man. Its Satanism, plain and simple.

Anonymous said...

Bishop Martino has serious health problems.
Probably cancer.

He was a good bishop with respect to his pro-life stand, and his condemnation of liberals and liberal theologians.

He was a bad bishop in that abortion seemed to be his sole area of interest. He closed dozens of parishes with little regard for the faithful.

And I don't think he was sympathetic to Catholic liturgical tradition.

Also, he was very much involved in ecumenical dialog with Protestants...which is never a good thing as far as the Catholic Church is concerned.

The Professor said...

lol cowards.

Adeodatus said...

If the masters of this world are not constantly plotting to throw you to the lions, you're falling down on the job of bishop.

Anonymous said...

O, and Teddy Kennedy gets a very public Catholic funeral presided over by the chief shepherd of the Archdiocese of Boston. All is well. There is no state of emergency?????

Anonymous said...

I never thought I'd see the day, but I agree with you Adeodatus.

Delphina

Anonymous said...

Re: the Kennedy Funeral: The homily is on You Tube. It's a complete whitewash and canonization of Mr. Kennedy. The sad reality is that the Church, at least in the U.S. really doesn't believe that abortion is murder or that personal morality really matters. All the talk by the bishops is just that, talk. No actions back it up at all. I am very disappointed in my church right now.

Anonymous said...

Anon 18:32 - There's much truth to the old saying "Actions speak louder than words."

I agree with you completely. I have come to the same devastating conclusion.

Der Tommissar said...

I think the phrase folks are looking for is, "Par for the course." The thing to remember is, the Archbishop was speaking to NPR. He is very very good at saying what his audience wants to hear.

I've always found it fascinating that Archbishop Sheehan is Archbishop of Santa Fe, yet prefers to live in Albaquerque. now it is within his archdiocese and it is the larger city, but I'd always been fascinated by the fact that he drives sixty miles each way to celebrate Mass at his Cathedral.

For some reason the air in Colorado seems cleaner after having read this.

Anonymous said...

The Catholic faith has such a wonderful tradition of action on social justice issues. So why do so many commenters to Catholic blogs spout elements of the distorted 'gospel' of hate? Hate for homosexuals, hate for "government", hate for "liberals" (whom ever that may be), etc. Do you folks have anything positive to offer, or any substantial ideas of how our society *should* (as opposed to should *not*) be?

Jordanes said...

Hate for homosexuals, hate for "government", hate for "liberals" (whom ever that may be), etc.

You seem to have posted your comment at the wrong weblog, Anonymous. You're certainly not responding to anything specific in the among blog post and subsequent comments. Seems more likely you're trolling.

As for a Gospel of "hate," well, Jesus does teach us to love good and hate evil, and He doesn't even mind telling us to "hate" our father, or mother, our families . . . Don't underestimate the importance of "hate" in Christianity.

Steve K. said...

Good grief, just read those comments over at NCR. Further proof of a massive apostasy in the American Church - how do these people even see themselves as Catholic?

Though with shepherds like Sheehan and Bernardin, none of this should come as a surprise, I suppose. Quamdiu Domine?