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More inculturation and liturgical "updating", courtesy of the Asian bishops

The Federation of Asian Bishops' Conferences is presently holding its 9th Plenary Meeting in Manila (August 11-16, 2009), with seven cardinals (including the representative of the Holy See, Francis Arinze) and around 80 bishops from 22 nations in attendance. The theme of the meeting is "Living the Eucharist in Asia."

In his homily in Manila cathedral during the opening Mass, Cardinal Arinze conveyed the Holy Father's wishes, stating that the Holy Father "rejoices at your choice of theme, and he prays that this Assembly be celebrated with great solemnity and that it brings abundant fruit for the peoples and cultures of the Asian continent. He requests the Bishops in particular to teach Christ’s faithful the importance of participation at the Eucharistic Celebration especially on Sundays and of receiving the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Priests, being ministers of the Eucharist, are to be greatly esteemed and supported and vocations to the priesthood to be promoted especially in the year for Priests."

The Cardinal also outlined the sub-themes of the Plenary Conference, summarizing these as follows:

The transforming power of the Holy Eucharist;
The Eucharist Meal in the Service of Communion;
Rooted in the Eucharist, we meet other believers;
Eucharist and Solidarity;
Eucharist and Evangelization.

The final document should be.... interesting, to say the least.

UCAN has an article on the second day of discussions:

ASIA - Bishops discuss Eucharist's relevance amid war, poverty

MANILA (UCAN) - Asian bishops discussed the prospects and challenges of living the Eucharist in their countries on the second day of meetings at the 9th FABC Plenary Assembly in Manila.

Seventeen bishops' conference heads and two associate members of the Federation of Asian Bishops' Conferences (FABC) on Aug. 12 discussed the working paper of the Aug. 11-16 assembly, presently taking place at Pius XII Catholic Center.

Titled after the assembly's theme, "Living the Eucharist in Asia," the paper was presented to them the previous afternoon by its author, theologian Bishop Luis Antonio Tagle of Imus, the Philippines.

A committee has been tasked to draft a final document, incorporating the inputs of participants.

During the discussion session, the Church leaders spoke about the situations in their countries and how the Eucharist was considered the "source and summit" of the life of their Churches.

For Archbishop Paulinus Costa of Dhaka, the Eucharist in Bangladesh is a reflection of his people's need for "daily bread" and the Christian belief in sharing wealth with the poor. The average daily wage in Bangladesh is only about US$0.50.

Several bishops stressed the value of inculturated Eucharistic celebrations.

"Attempts must be made to use Asian culture and symbols related to the Eucharist," said Archbishop Oswald Gracias of Bombay, India. He thinks there are times when too much talking and singing goes on in the liturgy with not enough time for silent reflection.

"The Eucharist is meant to transform Catholics," the Indian bishop said. For healing and reconciliation to take place during Mass, there need to be moments for silent prayer and reflection on the Scriptures, he said. (Amen. There happens to be a certain form of the Mass that promotes silent reflection... -- CAP)

He, also acknowledged the need to address, through the Eucharist, the call for a Church response to poverty and other issues, such as equal rights for women. (??? -- CAP)

He added that the Church "should promote the sanctity of the body, since we are temples of the Holy Spirit, especially the sanctity of the woman's body" which in many cases has been "sold into prostitution and slavery."

Korean Bishop Peter Kang U-il of Cheju suggested providing concrete examples of "living the Eucharist in Asia." If not, the bishop warned, the meeting's final statement could end up as just another Church document read by a few and then forgotten.

He believes Sunday Mass can be more meaningful if small "communities of believers" gather ahead of Mass to read and meditate on Scripture.

He cited the practice of Jewish families who gather on the eve of the Sabbath to prepare for religious ceremonies the next day.

He also suggested the Eucharist could be used for people to reflect on the continuing "arms buildup" in Asia. (??? -- CAP) The Eucharist, he said, is about unity and peace, and noted that nations are increasingly preparing for war.

Sri Lankan Bishop Vianney Fernando of Kandy said people in his country are tired after decades of civil war. They need the Eucharist to help bring about reconciliation, trust and forgiveness, he said. While Catholics remain loyal to the Church, he added, there is a need for them to reach out to other faiths.

He stressed that there is a need to emphasize the "Word of God" because people are hungry for Christ's message.

Bishops from Indonesia, Laos and Myanmar said their people's "hunger" for the Eucharist is difficult to satisfy because of a lack of priests and catechesis. In many places in these countries, where Masses are held irregularly, Catholics celebrate a Liturgy of the Word conducted by catechists or lay ministers.

In Laos and Cambodia there are only about 60 priests to cover vast areas, said Church leaders from these countries.

Catechetical work is also sporadic in Laos because of the Communist regime, they added.

Thai Bishop George Yod Phimphisan of Udon Thani said that participation in Basic Ecclesial Communities has changed Thai Catholics. They now come together to meditate on the Word of God, and then go out and live the Eucharist in their small communities.

He said the use of some Thai and Buddhist symbols also makes the Eucharist more understandable to Thai people, who are mostly Buddhist.

The FABC is a voluntary association of episcopal conferences in Asia, established in the 1970s to foster among its members solidarity and co-responsibility for the welfare of Church and society in Asia.

From Uzbekistan, though, comes a small sign of genuine liturgical renewal. In an interview with UCAN, the Apostolic Administrator of that country, Msgr. Jerzy Maculewicz, said that he has started "...to invite people to pray with the breviary in front of the Blessed Sacrament on weekday evenings. About 10-30 people attend each time."

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

There's no such thing as the 'Sacrament of Reconciliation'. It's called the Sacrament of Penance.

P.K.T.P.

Ponte said...

Nothing will change or improve. This looks like a verbose setup for nothing but more verbiage and then business as usual. Only the American Bishops would be able to outdo this event in soundbites and unsubstantial outcomes.

Timothy Mulligan said...

Might be a good time to put a word in for Summorum Pontificum and obeying the Holy Father, Your Eminence.

Anonymous said...

We see here the beginning of new heresy in Asia where the bishops do not submit their minds to the culture and teaching of the Church. A good friend was recently in Bangkok and visited the cathedral. During Mass the Philipino priest told everyone there was no need to go to confession as the Eucharist absolves sin! My friend is a Protestant (no he does not take communion) was confused. Asian cultures must be shaped by Christian symbols. Men such as Bede Griffiths represents an aberation. Also it is amazing how much "free association" the bishops from Asian indulge in this conference.
There is the problem of culture, there is the inability many Asians have in filtering the errors in contemporary Catholic books they read esp since Vatican 11.

Garrett said...

Just...gross. Buddhist symbols? What is wrong with these people?

Paul Haley said...

Thesis = TLM; Antithesis = NOM; Synthesis = Reform of the reform. On top of that we are told that more inculturation and updating is necessary.

The Hegelian dialectic marries with Modernism and the Faithful are the poorer for it. What a tragedy for the Church in our time!

David Werling said...

Like a stone throne into water... the ripples move outward... affect all the pond... snatch the pebble from my hand, Grasshopper.

LeonG said...

Listen to the language. It reveals everything we need to understand about liberal modernist neo-catholic church leaders in Asia. Symbols of Buddhism being employed in the NO service; "living" the Eucharist; "reconciliation" and so on. I doubt if many of them will doanything about the lamentable state of The Sacrament of Confession - the bishop here has some very dubious views about that. Most NO services disobey current rubrics for this particular "rite". English dominance of liturgical language indicates Anglo-Saxon linguistic imperialism and most women I have seen at the modern service dress like the prostitiutes that are being mentioned here - very tight clothes, bright colours, short skirts, hot pants and spaghetti string tops. Thankfully, I no longer go to this abhorrent nonsense replete with its jazz band and rock presentations and prebyters who suffer from systemic logorrhoea with three sermons per session and the uncontrollable urge to try to explain, even if poorly, everything they are doing.

SE Asia is a hotbed of heresy and sacrilege. Much of it is propagated by the prebyterate.

Dr. Herbert R. said...

I am disheartened by this article. I never realized that this is how our Bishops in Asia perceive the Eucharist. Buddhist symbols? Are we Buddhists? Even Buddhists when they see us using their symbols will be confused. We are not Buddhists that's why we cannot use their symbols. Otherwise we will be promoting Buddhism rather than Christianity. And what about arms race???? should we stop the arms race??? isnt it that this world is a decaying world? That Jesus is pointing us to set our eyes on heaven - the heavenly Jerusalem? My Lord save the Church in Asia. Deliver us from these bishops, send us your good Bishops, true shepherds and not the hirelings.

Phil said...

There's no such thing as the 'Sacrament of Reconciliation'. It's called the Sacrament of Penance.

P.K.T.P.


It's called by many names. But 'Sacrament of reconciliation' is certainly the most accurate.

The essence of this sacrament is reconciliation with God. When one strays by sin, he is brought back to good relations with God though this sacrament. Penance is certainly not the essence. In fact it is performed AFTER sacramental grace is conferred and omitting to perform it has no effect on validity.

Anonymous said...

Will we Asians now have a crucified Buddha and our priests shaved heads?

Augustine said...

Let's not be too hasty in condemning the influence of local culture in the Church.

Could the Church have attracted so many converts in the classical world had it not been involved in a (critical and honest) reading of Plato and Aristotle? Would Augustine have been a great bishop and theologian were he not steeped in the culture of Classical philosophy? Would Augustine have converted the Angles had St. Gregory the Great not instructed him to show how their holy sites could be used for the worship of the God of Israel?

I'm not condoning the use of explicitly pagan imagery or thought in the Church, but we need to remember our own history.

*Careful* inculturation is the mark of true Catholicism.

Gideon Ertner said...

I was glad to read that last paragraph. When I read the part about the Bishop citing "the practice of Jewish families who gather on the eve of the Sabbath to prepare for religious ceremonies the next day" I myself wanted to suggest the sacrilegious and preposterous idea of celebrating 1st Vespers for the Sunday in the Church on Saturday evening.

Alternatively, families could pray Vespers at home from the Breviary, or even just the - *gasp* - Rosary!

But apparently, the idea of using Catholic liturgy and devotions is just too radical for these Bishops.

Gideon Ertner said...

Sorry, that last comment may have been unduly snide. I just don't get why these people are looking all over the place and inventing all manner of novelties to satisfy the spiritual needs of the faithful under their care when all the things they need are right under their very noses!

Like silence during the liturgy - what a radical concept! Never been done before. We must make up a whole new liturgy for that to happen.

I can't for the life of me imagine that either the Hindus or the Buddhists are the least bit impressed by this complete ignorance, even hatred, of one's own religious tradition and the maniacal desire to adapt everything to suit the Other.

Anonymous said...

For the most part, these comments by bishops were disgusting, revolting, and a total repudiation of Catholicism. Unculturation will destroy the Faith in Asia, not build it up.

The only true CATHOLIC Bishops, priests and missionaries left in the world, are those belonging to traditionalist Orders....most especially the SSPX.

Anonymous said...

"There's no such thing as the 'Sacrament of Reconciliation'. It's called the Sacrament of Penance.
"

I often wondered where the Vatican II Catholic Church got this term....:Sacrament of Reconciliation" and the use of "Reconciliation Rooms".

I researched for a long time and finally found out where this name, and the ridiculous practice of "Reconciliation Rooms" instead of traditional Confessionals came from.

The Roman Catholic Church copied it from........THE EPISCOPAL "church" IN THE USA!!!!
Both the term "Sacrament of Reconcilliation", and the "Reconcilliation Room" came from them.

A disgrace that the Vatican and the Catholic Church would copy from a group such as that. The results what happened to the practice of the Sacrament of Penance speak for themselves.
Same as what happened to our Holy Mass.

Oliver said...

And I thought old-fashioned Catholicism still persisted in the colonial areas! As happened in South America, these native bishops see THEIR church as part of a liberation struggle and modernising device in Asia. Consequently, the greatly weakened reformed church in Rome will find it hard to keep them on board and cope with all the other initiatives for change within the so-called Catholic world. Arinze woes them with the usual pleasantries in the knowledge that no-one runs the church of today.

Jordanes said...

I often wondered where the Vatican II Catholic Church got this term....:Sacrament of Reconciliation" and the use of "Reconciliation Rooms".

The term was taken from Matthew 5:24 and II Cor. 5:20, and the new name for the confessional presumably came in as part of the wrongheaded tendency of those days to overemphasise the positive aspects of the faith and downplay the negative aspects of our sinfulness and our souls' danger. I don't know where the idea of face-to-face private confession came from

I researched for a long time and finally found out where this name, and the ridiculous practice of "Reconciliation Rooms" instead of traditional Confessionals came from.

I wouldn't say the practice is ridiculous, but for myself I find the traditional faceless, anonymous confession to be a better environment: it helps remove the obstacles of nervousness or embarrassment, or at least to lessen them.

The Roman Catholic Church copied it from........THE EPISCOPAL "church" IN THE USA!!!!
Both the term "Sacrament of Reconcilliation", and the "Reconcilliation Room" came from them.


Interesting. Do you have some sources to which you can direct us to support your findings? It certainly sounds like the kind of thing that would have happened during that time of tumult.

A disgrace that the Vatican and the Catholic Church would copy from a group such as that. The results what happened to the practice of the Sacrament of Penance speak for themselves.
Same as what happened to our Holy Mass.


I'm not sure if the drastic drop-off of people going to confession could be attributed chiefly to that, but I could see how a switch of emphasis from "Penance" to "Reconciliation" would contribute in some way to a lessen of our sense of the gravity of sin. It's interesting to note that, while the Church does approve of "reconciliation" as one of five names for the sacrament, more usually people have taken to calling it "Reconciliation" (and to me that usage feels kind of "forced"), whereas the Code of Canon Law calls it "Penance."

Long-Skirts said...

Dr. Herbert R said...

"Buddhist symbols? Are we Buddhists? Even Buddhists when they see us using their symbols will be confused. We are not Buddhists that's why we cannot use their symbols."

MOTHER LIKES
BUDDHA BEST

Oh to be Buddhist,
Sought after most wooedist,
By men who excuse
Much that’s lewd.

I’ve only a broodist,
Ten souls who aren’t Buddhist,
Once again booed screwed
And tattooed!!

Jordanes said...

Thesis = TLM; Antithesis = NOM; Synthesis = Reform of the reform.

Whether or not one wishes to view things through the faulty lenses of Hegelianism, certainly the liturgical reform pretty desperately needs reforming -- and I don't know how one could go about fixing that collosal mess without reference to and guidance and inspiration from the traditional Roman Rite.

The only true CATHOLIC Bishops, priests and missionaries left in the world, are those belonging to traditionalist Orders....most especially the SSPX.

No, things are nowhere near as bad as that. Cf. III Kings 19:14-18

Jordanes said...

Arinze woes them with the usual pleasantries in the knowledge that no-one runs the church of today.

On the contrary, the Church of today and of all ages is run by God.

Anonymous said...

On the Sacrament of Penance,

I use "Blessed Be God" prayer book published in 1925 by Kenedy and Sons, Imprimatur from Cardinal Haynes and I quote from the "Prayer of Perseverance" pg.30,
"O Almighty and most merciful God, Who, according to the multitude of Thy tender mercies, hast vouchsafed once more to receive Thy prodigal child, after so many times going astray from Thee, and to admit me to this Sacrament of reconciliation; I give Thee thanks with all the powers of my soul..."

The Fourth Commandment says to honor thy father and mother, in my opinion the NO and its adherents break this commandment when they ignore our forefathers and martyrs who died for the faith.

Say no to the NO

Carlos Antonio Palad said...

"And I thought old-fashioned Catholicism still persisted in the colonial areas!"

Colonial areas??? Asia is not ruled by Europeans anymore!!!

AznRoxas108 said...

Whatever happened to good and faithful Bishops like Salvador Lazo? (My guess is they died out, hiding/silent, or assigned elsewhere)

Let us pray to the Immaculate Virgin Mary, Queen of the Clergy, for these Bishops and that new ones with more orthodoxy may come in. Not just in Asia, though, but elsewhere.

Paul Haley said...

Jordanes said:

Whether or not one wishes to view things through the faulty lenses of Hegelianism, certainly the liturgical reform pretty desperately needs reforming -- and I don't know how one could go about fixing that collosal mess without reference to and guidance and inspiration from the traditional Roman Rite.

There's another solution. Mandate a return to the TLM within 2 years as the normative mass in the Latin Rite with bishops being required to conduct training programs for priests needing same in their dioceses.

Yes, I know, it's not going to happen and that is because the Antithesis was allowed in the first place. If it was shelved in the first place, we'd have no need for the Synthesis or Reform of the Reform.

Anonymous said...

This shows more and more about people unwilling to go above and beyond themselves and their issues for the greater glory of God and His Holy Church.

Obviously the Faith was there longer than just recently. The Mass can be said in their local languages. What is in the Mass comprises of what is specific to God and Jesus Christ and His Sacrifice. There is no room for any other "symbolisms" and what-nots in the Mass. We in the West don't have leprechauns or gnomes or any other of those silly things. Why do they find it necessary to have it in their Masses? An inordinate form of self-love?

Matt

Anonymous said...

I have been following this subject for awhile. The Japanese bishops are particularly stressng local church and Budhist influences. They still however have woman wearing head coverings and are very disciplined in the way they pray.They conform. The Philipines clergy are pivotal. Unfortunately the American has made them liberal and the Spanish heritage of the Church is being forgotten. Also missionaries from the West bring them the latest fashions which they accept. The church in Thailand is influenced by the Philipines because clergy come from there. Overall the excuse is that they are no longer colonies of any Western nation and should inculturate. It is absurd because Asian is an area that has been influenced by islam, hinduisn and budhism which has influenced Asian culture giving it symbols. Why shouldn't Catholicism seek to change the local culture? Mant Asian clergy see the role of the Pope ans a sort of colonialism which of course it is not. I am not sure Rome grasps the developing problem.

motuproprio said...

Perhaps the new Archbishop of Colombo will be able to exert some influence.

Anonymous said...

"I'm not sure if the drastic drop-off of people going to confession could be attributed chiefly to that, but I could see how a switch of emphasis from "Penance" to "Reconciliation"

The drop off in confession came from two sources:

1) priests de-emphasizing the idea of sin in their sermons, instead just giving us a re-hash of what the Sunday "readings" meant. By never mentioning sin, the need for confession, and atonment, and amending lives to reject occasions of sin, we now have generations of Catholics who don't believe anything is a sin (except what is in the 10 Commandments)
At one time, (before Vatican II), some Orders of priests, particularly the Redemptorists, engaged in the practice of having "mission bands", whereby a group of 20-30 priests would devote their ministry to going around to various parishes in the Advent and Lenten season...and at other times...preaching the neeed for Confession, repentance, and ammendment of life (conversion of life) and return to the Sacraments.
Nowadays, these "mission bands" are just about extinct, and where they do occur, the priests (Redemptorists, Jesuits, and perhaps a few other Orders), engage in fabricated liturgies, and preach "love, peace, joy" and worst of all....ecumenism and inter-religious dialog.

BY the way, these are usually very aged, worn out liberals who do this.
The only group of priests that I know of who still give TRUE Catholic parish missions is the SSPX.
NO SURPRISE THERE!

Viator Catholicus said...

When will we understand that true inculturation comes after grace is infused into individual human hearts? This inculturation stuff is a product of the Novus ordo mentality which puts the cart before the horse.
Recently I spoke with a sociologist. She was complaining that a certain Chinese Catholic community had adopted a devotion to an "Italian" saint and suggested trying to get them to replace this devotion with a devotion to an "Asian" saint. It's so ridiculous! Just think of how many non-Italian saints are venerated in Italy. These bishops conferences will end up balkanizing the Church and prevent conversions.

People of all cultures suffer the effects of original sin and if they do not hold fast to true doctrine, will start to worship themselves and not God. This is the universal problem seen from the days of the golden calf to the abominations done in the name of modern liturgy in all lands.

Daniel said...

I'm indonesian and in my country the situation is quite terrible. Altough many people still go to the Mass, the Sacrament of Penance is suffering, most of our Catholics only go to confession during Advent and Lent. And there are many think that confession only can be done during Advent and Lent. Lack of proper and orthodox cathecesis is the root of all this.

I think our bishops should remember that Jesus Christ is an Asian, and that Catholicism is originally an Asian religion. The Church and Her Lord is not an alien for Asians.

Anonymous said...

All this inculturation and other heresy which has come into the Asian Church in the last 40 years had it's beginnings not in Asia....but in Rome.
During, and right after Vatican II, the Jesuits, Franciscans, and other major Orders of priests (and later on, large Missionary congregations of nuns), began to warp the idea of what it is to be a missionary away from the traditional and noble ROMAN CATHOLIC understanding of what a missionary is (someone who seeks to wins souls for Jesus Christ and the Church), into someone who initiates endless inter-religious dialog with non-Catholic and non-Christian religious with an attitude of respect for their non-Christian beliefs. Very quickly, gone was the traditional Catholic model of "missionary", and it was replaced by the warped and almost heretical Vatican II model of a hip, up to date Church ready to dialog with the world, and where everyone are brothers.
Distinctly ROMAN CATHOLIC traditions (liturgical and otherwise), were discarded and transformed into a blend of Christian-Buddhist-Muslim-Hindu theology and liturgy. Very quickly came the inculturized Mass, where we see drums and endless singing and dancing in Africa, and the insertion of Hindu and Buddhist symbolism, decor, and mindset into Catholic Masses in India, Japan, and other places.
Particularly in India, the Catholic Church was overwhelmed and warped into the inculturized Church due to radical and bizarre liturgical experiments by white, European or American foreign missionaries who planted the seed of this garbage in Indian seminaries, monasteries, convents, and parishes. The same thing was done in S.Korea, Japan, and other places, and in Africa. In Latin America it took on another form....the infamous "base Christian communities" and liberation theology.
Fortunatly, the army of lunatic missionaries from Europe, the USA, and Australia who after Vatican II decended on Asia, Africa and Latin America and spread this corruption are all very, very depleted in personnel and very aged-(some missionary institiutes such as the White Fathers and the White Sisters, the Picpus (Sacred Hearts) Fathers and the Sisters, the Franciscan Missionaries of Mary nuns are really no longer viable missionary communities due to an enormous loss of members and a very aged remnant) Not to forget the Jesuits, Franciscans, Redemptorists, Dominicans, and last bu not least the Americans of Maryknoll fathers ,brothers and nuns have lost so many members and so many missionaries that they are no longer viable missionary Orders and congregations either. THANK GOD FOR THAT BLESSING!!!
The damage done to the Asian Church will that 100+ years to recover from. And a recovery can only take place with the recovery of Catholic traditions, the Tridentine Latin Mass, and a repudiation of 95% what came from Vatican II.

Peter Kim said...

What "Inculturation" and "Interreligious dialogue" imply in Asian countries can be seen from the "Interreligious Colloquium" opened at Sogang University, a Jesuit College in Seoul, South Korea. One of the invited guest speaker was Hans Kung!

The link: http://www.setondialog.or.kr/colloquium.htm

Peter Kim said...

He [Peter Kang U-il of Cheju Diocese, South Korea] also suggested the Eucharist could be used for people to reflect on the continuing "arms buildup" in Asia. (??? -- CAP)

You can see why bishop Kang said 'arms buildup' in Asia from CBCK Newsletter: http://www.cbck.or.kr/bbs/enewsletter.asp?board_id=e5100&bid=13001632

Environmentalism is a quite prevailing agenda in Catholic Church in South Korea as can be demonstrated from the Message for 2008 Day for the Environment, "The Transition to an Ecologically Sustainable Society" by Committee for Justice & Peace of the CBCK.

Excerpts from the document: "According to the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) that won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, if the human community does not come up with definite solutions to decrease greenhouse gas emissions without further delay, numerous people in the future will go through severe weather wars and face suffering and death. ... Sustainable development involves two things: the satisfaction of the needs of the present generation and the limits of nature. That is, sustainable development is to help both the present and future generations to enjoy the benefits of nature so that they can meet the needs of basic living. Sustainable development, however, should be achieved within the limits of nature, the life support system."

It is deplorable Korean bishops believe in global warming hoax proposed by UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and Al Gore. I seems that they do not know so called "sustainable development" is closely related to population control and abortion/contraception industry.

Message for 2008 Day for the Environment "The Transition to an Ecologically Sustainable Society": http://www.cbck.or.kr/bbs/enewsletter.asp?board_id=e5100&bid=13002330&page=1&key=&keyword=

Peter Kim said...

Sorry, I was mistaken. Hans Kung did visit Seoul Korea and made a speech at Sogang University. But it was in 2003 not in 2001 at the 'Interreligious Colloquium'.

In general, Hans Kung's theology has been favorably accepted in Catholic Church in South Korea as seen in the interview with a leading Korean theologian: http://www.ucanews.com/1997/01/30/living-the-word-is-inculturation-and-evangelization/?key=hans+kung

BTW, Hans Kung received Masonic award in 2007. On this occasion a Masonic Grand Master said to Hans Küng: “You speak from our Masonic soul.”
http://www.montfort.org.br/index.php?secao=veritas&subsecao=religiao&artigo=condecoracao-maconica-hans-kung&lang=eng

Anonymous said...

The same old tired liberal garbage, catch-words, phrases and agenda that the USA and European Church has suffered through for 40 years.

It was only a matter of time before the Asian Church followed suit.

It's the worst in India, and characteristically, Mass attendance and priestly and religious vocations have declined once this liberal/ecumenical/inter-religious inculturation garbage begins to dominate.

The Church is the Philipines might hold on because it's 90% Catholic, even though they're suffering from the same liberal malaise and crisis as the rest of the Church, but look for Catholics in non-Christian countries like India, Malaysia, Indonesia and South Korea to start stagnating number-wise, and then begin to decline if this garbage fostered by these "bishops" is allowed to perpetuate.

If we had had Popes for the last 30+ years who actually "Poped", this problem would not have manifested itself.