Rorate Caeli

The Reform of the Liturgy and the Catholic Church

The blog of the Society of St. Hugh of Cluny has published a translation of a recent interview with Martin Mosebach on the Reform of the Liturgy and the Catholic Church.

Part 1

Part 2

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

"This pope is precisely not a papal dictator. He relies on the strength of the better argument and hopes that the nature of the Church will overcome that which is inappropriate to her if certain minimal assistance is provided."

God bless His Holiness for his personal sanctity and extreme wisdom.

Unfortunately good arguments and orthodox example will most likely not induce all bishops and priests in the Church to correct abuses in their respective diocese's and parish's.
Because the Holy Father rightly only distributes the Blessed Sacrament on the toungue has not drastically changed the majority of Catholics from continuing to recieve God in the hands.
It will take Papal mandate to do this.

D.P.H.

John McFarland said...

Mr. Palad,

I sent a comment. Did it get through?

Paul Haley said...

"This pope is precisely not a papal dictator. He relies on the strength of the better argument and hopes that the nature of the Church will overcome that which is inappropriate to her if certain minimal assistance is provided."

I suspect the holy father is getting incresingly fed up with the intransigence of local bishops, with absolute anarchy in the celebration of the new mass by apostate clerics and with his own reliance "on the strength of the better argument". Therefore, I sense in my gut the feeling that he is getting ready to act in some dramatic fashion with respect to the liturgy and to the FSSPX, who, after all, were almost singulalry responsible along with a few independents for preserving the traditional liturgy. No evidence, just a feeling which simply will not dissipate.

Anonymous said...

Wonderful and true quote by Dr Mosebach refering to the Traditional Latin Mass:

"The FSSPX and especially its founder, Archbishop Lefebvre, are due the historical glory to have preserved for decades and kept alive this most important gift. Therefore the Church owes the FSSPX above all gratitude."

D.P.H.

M. A. said...

"...He relies on the strength of the better argument and hopes that the nature of the Church will overcome that which is inappropriate to her if certain minimal assistance is provided."
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Does not the Holy Father remember the effects of original sin on the human creature?

Parental wisdom will tell you that the "Dr. Spock" approach only results in a self-centered, willful child. Naughty children sometimes NEED a good, hard smack on the bottom.

Anonymous said...

Excellent interview, the time is near that the Holy Father must also teach with the instruments that have been granted him. Otherwise his lessons will not carry over to the majority of the people. For the good of the Church as a whole he must leave us with some firm legislation, like the MP, that will endure for all time. What would the Church be without her documents. I suspect the Holy Father knows this very well. For the health of the Church many, many millions look to legislation alongside examples. Example and documents walk hand in hand. Otherwise it is like having documents and no one sees the example of what they mean.

Carlos Antonio Palad said...

"Mr. Palad,

I sent a comment. Did it get through?"

Which comment? I'm not the only moderator here.

Thomas John said...

"Example and documents walk hand in hand"...

Indeed — it's called Teaching. We want our beautiful, holy Pope to start Teaching. Not reflecting, but teaching. We want him to legislate as absolute monarch in accord with his conscience, conformed in truth. It is, in the end, all that will save the Church. It's ironic how daily men prove the uselessness of words in wordly affairs, when in God's Church the words of a Pope have riven history more than once. We want to hear those words.

Anonymous said...

Thomas John, Do you mean words like, "We declare, say, define and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."? (Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctum, 1302.)

Anonymous said...

From Part II: "One has at times the impression that if Benedict were not a Christian he would be a Jew." Well, what else could anyone possibly be? If Jesus is God, then we MUST be CATHOLICS, and if He is not then we MUST be Jews. In no case however, does any other "religion" enter the realm of possibility.