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From the website of RTL (Belgium):

"For the past three weeks, a beautiful example of openness of spirit and tolerance has been displayed in Jumet [Charleroi]. The Church of Saint-Lambert welcomes the Muslim community of Gilly, deprived of a worship space due to administrative problems."
Video below (as Father Henry Remy, 89, explains his enlightened decision).

23 comments:

Athelstane said...

Someone will state the obvious, so it might as well be me: French bishops will welcome Muslims to use their churches for worship, but not traditional Catholic orders - not if their lives depended on it. Religious dialogue and even syncretism is welcome with virtually anyone and anything, but never, ever Catholic tradition.

Which says something about what the faith of the French church, at least as embodied by most of its present episcopacy and its remaining fellow travelers, has evolved into. What that something is...I will leave to others to deduce.

New Catholic said...

Before someone corrects Athelstane, he is right: the "Rhine" mentality is one and the same in France and in Wallonia.

Ashley said...

Good thing they covered up all the religious images within the Church. I would hate for any of those Muslims to be offended while praying in a Catholic Church to their false god.

Anonymous said...

It seems that Bp Harpigny who is in theory supervising this Fr. Remy has rejected this decision.
He seemed to say this was only the pastor's decision and that he is independent from his bishop, making numerous decisions openly disapproved by the diocese.

This would not be a surprised in the Belgian Church.

Alsaticus

Anonymous said...

"I AM THE LORD THY GOD; THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME." To allow Muslims to worship in a RC Church is not "beautiful"; it is blasphemous!

Afonso Miguel said...

The priest said "the same god". So what if he join them, praying side by side? Is religion simply a matter of style?! this priest must be moved away immediately.

Imagine this in a muslim country! Just imagine a band of christians praying in a mosque. Now imagine te press reaction...

Anonymous said...

I'm just wondering why the imam didn't put on Fr. Remy's beautiful rainbow colored vestments.

Neal said...

Perhaps the thought is that if the muslims were kind enough to let the Pope pray in their mosques on a couple of occasions, it is not unreasonable that Christians should return the favour. And yes, I understand that there are distinctions that can be made; but for those not sufficiently inclined or informed to do so, this reason might suffice.

D Smith said...

Afonso, Nostra Aetate says much the same thing, I take it you regect this as well? I really dont see the problem with this example of catholic charity towards our neighbours, as Nostra Aetate declares:

"The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees"

Anonymous said...

Quamdiu, Domine?

Prof. Basto

Anonymous said...

The Rite for Reconciling a Profaned Church is in order.

Afonso Miguel said...

D Smith,

Do you really consider that islamism workships the truly God? We have so many things in common historically. But theologically? I can say: my God is one, and is the one of the Old Testament. But this means the truly God: that God of incarnation, death an ressurection of His Son? We have the same God - theologically speaking - of Maomé?...

Paul Haley said...

That guy with the microphone is a priest???? You could've fooled me. What a disgrace! But, once again folks, this is the Upside-Down Church of the "new springtime". Tell me that Bishop Fellay would allow such nonsense - no way, Jose!

Anonymous said...

Don't you just love V2! It reformed Luther and Calvin and now the Muslims. Laity, preacher and all religions are much the same now, held in esteem they are.

Mickey said...

A great demonstration of Charity without Truth. This is the consequential effect of the hippie understanding of LOVE(Charity) born from the groovy 60's. We are still feeling its effects. All they talk about is LOVE, LOVE, LOVE but yet their expression and understanding of it (Love) is confused, ambiguous, and lacking in truth. I could be wrong, but Im under the opinion that this is also the consequence of ditching and ignoring the previous prescriptions of Past Popes with regards to sticking with the Angelic Doctor in the Study of Philosophy and Theology in Clerical Formation.

Anonymous said...

This will happen all over the world giving the state of christdom the slow death march. And our so called Christian leaders will hand us the knife to cut own on throats. What lengths these liberials will go to be loved by the world. It makes me sick..

Anonymous said...

When Europe becomes Europastan, those tolerant and open devotees of the ʇıɹıds of Vatican II won't even be able to find a catacomb to worship. But no worries, since in their eyes there is no difference between Allah and the Triune God, they shall have no difficulties in converting to Islam and worshiping Allah in mosques.

RipK said...

When I was Morocco few months ago, and I was told that as a christian, I was unable to enter any mosque in the country because I would "stain" it with my belief in Christ.

Anonymous said...

Be careful before claiming Muslims worship a different god.

A denial of the Trinity does not "a different god" make; rather, it creates a false concept of the true God. Is the God Jews worship (who is not Triune in their conception) and the Christian God different? Of course not (contra Marcion). Same God, but one has a misinformed concept.

Muslims claim the one God who revealed Himself to Noah, Abraham, Mary, etc. They refer to him by the Arabic word for "God" (Allah), the cognate to El and Elohim in Hebrew and Elah in the Aramaic. (Arab speaking Jews and Christians also invoke God as "Allah.")

You may believe Muslims have incorrect theology, conceptions of God, doctrines, practices, etc. But this is not the same thing as worshipping another God.

If they worshipped Mars, the god of war, things would be different.

Anonymous said...

Are we surprised? Lex orandi, lex credendi..."for you and for all"???

Anonymous said...

There's no liberal as bad as an old liberal.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

C'est la vie dans l'Église catholique d'aujourd'hui! Très malheureux!

Afonso Miguel said...

Anonymous,

Even if they worship the same God, the question remains. Is islamic cult pleasant to God?...