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The strangest news item of the year:
Pope backtracking on decision to proclaim Vianney patron of all priests

Different versions of this have been circulating all day. The following was published by French Catholic daily La Croix:
According to informations of the [religious news] agency I.Media, confirmed to La Croix by Fr. Federico Lombardi, director of the Holy See Press Office, Benedict XVI has backtracked on his decision to proclaim Saint John Mary Vianney (1786-1859) "patron saint of all priests of the world", on the closing [ceremonies] of the Year of Priests.

This solemn proclamation should take place after the Mass celebrated this Friday on St.Peter's Square in the presence of over 10,000 priests from all over the world. The figure of this French mystic, already "patron saint of all parish priests of the world" since 1929 and "patron saint of the priests of France" since 1905, has not in the end been considered very representative of the priesthood at the 21st Century, and not very universal.
Other news sources have not mentioned any changes in the long-held plan of Pope Benedict XVI to proclaim the Curé d'Ars patron of all priests - first made public by the Holy See Press Office in March 2009.

If the papal backtracking is confirmed, it will be a highly symbolic move.

Let us pray for the Holy Father.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

"If the papal backtracking is confirmed, it will be a highly symbolic move."

Symbolic specifically in what sense?

~ Belloc

New Catholic said...

The backtracking itself will be a stunning symbol of the Pope's ________. (Fill in the blank.)

Augustine said...

I don't think it matters one way or another.

For example, should St. John Vianney be the patron saint of monastic priests too? I'm not so sure as his way of life is more applicable to parish priests.

I'm not going to read to much into this.

Martin said...

Augustine, I think you are missing the point here.

It might be the case that St Jean Marie Vianney was not the best choice in the first place for monastic priests, but, since that decision had long been made, the revoking of it at the last minute would be one more blow to the "restaurationist" view of this papacy, a viewpoint which has already suffered some other severe setbacks.

This is quite regrettable, for things started quite well back in 2005. But I am afraid that we are now again in fully frozen mode, and that the wolves are getting ready for the next conclave.

That said I hope HH will prove me wrong.

Mr. Ortiz said...

I am within pages of finishing Trochu's bio of the Cure.

As many know, Vianney wanted many times to end his life in monastic seclusion, but he stuck to his post. In a slightly inverse way, he is a model for monastic priests too, longing for solitude with the Lord, obeying his superiors to the bitter-sweet end.

This news, to me, sounds suspect.

I guess we will see.

Anonymous said...

If true, it fits the pattern.

Anonymous said...

Sorry for sounding cynical, but when will the libtards proclaim John Geoghan as the ''universal patron of LGBT priests'' ? Geoghan was LGBT I think.

Jordanes said...

No, Geoghan was a sodomite. "LGBT" makes it sound like he belonged to a respectable organisation.

Introibo said...

I think St. Philip Neri should be proclaimed the patron Saint of priests.

Anonymous said...

St. John Vianney is at least as suitable a patron of all priests, including the monastic, as St. Therese is a suitable patron of missionaries. C'mon guys, try to look a little deeper than mere superficial similarities.

Anonymous said...

There seemed to me to be a lot more drums beating for the year of St. Paul. There is no doubt in my mind that that was because the Protestants could join that parade. By contrast, poor old St. John Vianney got the silent treatment- from Catholics as well- and I am positive that he would have preferred it that way! St. John Marie Vianney, pray for us! Amen.

Anonymous said...

The Pope doesn't backtrack, it only human weakness that lends to believe so.

Raphael - Texas ACA said...

The rethinking concerns me. The ministerial Priesthood is Universal. Therefor Cure of Ars would have been totally appropriate especially since he was a Priest that tirelessly worked for the salvation of souls. I know no monastic or diocesan Priest hearing confessions daily like St John Vianney. Alter Christus and in Person Christi is the same for a Diocesan and monastic \ order Priest. The key is did he perfectly exemplify the essence of the Miniaterial Priesthood the answer is YES. The Church has already declared this through canonization. He lived and modeled heroic virtue. St Joseph Cafasso or St Peter Julian Eyemard would also make great Patrons of All Priests. Let us pray for the Pope.

Raphael GGG. Texas said...

The rethinking concerns me. The ministerial Priesthood is Universal. Therefor Cure of Ars would have been totally appropriate especially since he was a Priest that tirelessly worked for the salvation of souls. I know no monastic or diocesan Priest hearing confessions daily like St John Vianney. Alter Christus and in Person Christi is the same for a Diocesan and monastic \ order Priest. The key is did he perfectly exemplify the essence of the Miniaterial Priesthood the answer is YES. The Church has already declared this through canonization. He lived and modeled heroic virtue. St Joseph Cafasso or St Peter Julian Eyemard would also make great Patrons of All Priests. Let us pray for the Pope.

ToS said...

Maybe he’ll backtrack on other things as well – like John Paul II.

Janet Baker said...

I wish he would backtrack on his writings about homosexuality (as Prefect, 1986 and 1992). I have a post on it, 'Holy Smoking Gun.'

John McFarland said...

The Holy Father is a man of Vatican II, and makes no bones about it.

So it seems to me that the "backtracking" of the Holy Father was the notion of making the proclamation, and his not following through on the proclamation a return to the conciliar straight and narrow.

If you know the sermons of the Cure of Ars, which there is at least one English translation in print, you know that there is precious little of Vatican II about them.

Nor are conciliarists unaware of that fact. Some years ago, the (I believe) chief French organization of priests in as many words rejected the Cure as a model for the modern priesthood. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of lobbying from France against the proclamation.

Hermit Sans Permit said...

that reminds me, i must fast and pray ..much more.......

Anonymous said...

Why do we need a patron saint of priests, when Jesus Christ is the perfect model of what a priest is?

Jordanes said...

Why do we need patron saints at all, since Jesus is the perfect model of humanity and everything that man and woman should be in the sight of God?

Anonymous said...

Even if St. John Vianney was not the best model for monastic priests (and I'm not sure about that), the pope could have made the proclamation the Holy See had announced he would make and then the pope could, at a later stage, perhaps during a future "Year of the Religious", proclaim some other saint (who was a model of monastic priest) as co-patron of all priests.

That would solve the "problem", avoiding the regrettable about face.

The about-face, after all the announcements, is offensive to St. John Vianney and to the dignity of the Papacy.

As for the question about why we need patron saints, posed by Jordannes, I would argue that we need as one of the consequences of our belief in the Communion of Saints.

Jordanes said...

As for the question about why we need patron saints, posed by Jordannes,

Jordanes, you mean. You really need to get that "n" on your keyboard fixed.

Anyway, it should have been evident that my question was rhetorical, a response to the clueless question of Anonymous that suggested we don't need a patron saint of priests since Jesus is the model of the perfect priest. My point is that if the fact that Jesus is the model of the perfect priest means we don't need a patron saint of priests, then by the same erroneous logic we don't need patron saints at all, since Jesus is the Holy One, infinitely more holy than the holiest of saints.