Rorate Caeli

Good news from communities in New South Wales
and California

(1) From a reader in the Diocese of Maitland-Newcastle (NSW, Australia):

There is good news from Australia, in the Diocese of Maitland-Newcastle, approximately 100 miles north of Sydney, Australia. The Newcastle Traditional Latin Mass society has been formed there as a lay response to Summorum Pontificum. Since the ecclesial hierarchy there has not undertaken to implement Summorum Pontificum, a group of young dedicated laity has set about making the Extraordinary Form Mass available on a more regular basis due to the generosity of one Parish Priest allowing access to a parish Church and the generosity of visiting religious and diocesan clergy from outside Maitland-Newcastle who are proficient in the celebration of the Extraordinary Form.

This stable group has found a more permanent home at Saint Patrick's Catholic Church, in the parish of Wallsend many Sundays. Last Sunday, we were fortunate enough to have our first Missa Cantata celebrated by Father Terence Mary Naughtin OFM Conv. pictures are provided of this momenteous occaison - the first Sung TLM in this diocese for quite some time.

Extraordinary Form Masses are offered on many Sundays at St Patrick's Catholic Church, Macquarie Street, Wallsend at either 11.30am or 3.30pm. Those living in the area are strongly encouraged to attend and support this new Extraordinary Form apostolate and others are kindly asked to support us with their prayer. Further information on exactly when Masses are held can be obtained by emailing newcastle-latin-mass@catholic.org

It goes to show, that even where the bishops and clergy are inactive in supporting Summorum Pontificum, still with good will there is much the laity can do to immobilise and support the cause.

(2) From a reader in the Bay Area:

In Vallejo, CA, Fr. Peter Talcott is now saying a T.L.M. at St. Louis Bertrand Chapel. The chapel is in South Vallejo, and is under St. Vincent Ferrer Parish. The Mass in Vallejo is at 6:30 PM. The Mass has been going for a few weeks weeks. Please help us spread the word about this Mass. The number of St Vincent's Parish in Vallejo is 707-644-8396.

14 comments:

Paul Haley said...

Good news, indeed, but what I want to hear is a bishop, one who ostensibly has "canonical status and faculties" step up to the plate and invite the FSSPX to establish a mission in his diocese to celebrate all sacraments in the "extraordinary form" with faculties provided by him, the head of the diocese. Until this happens, it's the Upside-Down Church of What's Happening Now - in my opinion, of course.

Can you imagine the flak such a bishop would receive from his confreres? But, Oh, the courage and sensitivity he would show to those of us in the traditional stripe. Yeah, I know, dreamin' again.

Anonymous said...

The news from Australia is very promising. Since S.P. was published in 2007, only one new Australian diocese has gained every-Sunday Masses; namely, the Diocese of Wollongong.

I believe that the S.S.P.X is active in the D. of Maitland-Newcastle (I'm not sure but it rings a bell). Let's add our prayers to the efforts of this local group.

In the Caifornia case, could some please name the see in question?

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

Vallejo is in the Diocese of Sacramento.

porys said...

@ P.K.T.P.
Ask uncle google ... eeee ... I mean aunt wikkimissa :-)
http://honneurs.free.fr/Wikini/wakka.php?wiki=CaliforniE
It's diocese of Sacramento.

Pablo said...

"...step up to the plate and invite the FSSPX to establish a mission in his diocese to celebrate all sacraments in the "extraordinary form" with faculties provided by him,..."

The SSPX would need to send their Priests ONLY.

Co-mingling the SSPX Laity and Sinners is a recipe for disaster.

There is no Charity in the SSPX USA.

By the way, there is a New Mexico Bishop that has allowed a former SSPX Priest to set up a small Chapel for the Tridentine Mass and Sacraments. It is working great; many souls are coming to a proper Catholic way of life. Their souls are being washed clean by this heroic Priest who was smart enough to leave Traditionals in their own Chapel, and bring the Novus Ordos into his new one. Many souls are being saved.

Please pray for him.

Pray for the Holy Father.

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Telesia said...

The SSPX are active in the diocese with a church at Singleton.

James said...

Yes, the SSPX's church at Singleton, not far from Newcastle in New South Wales, has been going for years.

Fr Naughtin is, I think, the most dignified, most intelligent, and most honourable priest whom I have ever met in my life.

Anonymous said...

Paul, though I understand your point, I can't see how this could happen. The FSSPX is not only without faculties, its priests are suspended according to canon law. Does a bishop - without any reference - have the competency to give these priests faculties? just wondering...

Xavier.

Anonymous said...

"does an Ordinary - have the competency to give these priests faculties? just wondering..."

Yes he does.

Cruise the groove.

Paul Haley said...

Xavier said:
Paul, though I understand your point, I can't see how this could happen. The FSSPX is not only without faculties, its priests are suspended according to canon law. Does a bishop - without any reference - have the competency to give these priests faculties? just wondering...

No doubt the bishop would have to coordinate his intended action with the Holy See and I do not know what the Holy See's position would be on the matter, now that the doctrinal discussions have been well underway. But, so far as I know, the local bishop is capable of granting faculties to validly-ordained priests and, if nothing else, this would bring to a head the whole matter of SSPX faculties/status.

But, it would take an enormous amount of courage for a local bishop to do this and it would bring the matter of status/faculties front and center with the Holy See instead of on the back-burner as it appears now. As to the matter of the canonical suspensions, what would be the reason for maintaining these suspensions now, after over 30 years of having been levied? With the salvation of souls at stake it appears to me that continued suspension is not only unjust but imprudent in the practical sense. I mean how long is this faculties/status question going to remain unresolved?

Pablo said...

Dear Mr. Xavier,

Going to Mass at an SSPX Chapel fulfils your Sunday obligation.

If the Holy Father says a Priest may bring down God from Heaven, I thereby allow that Priest do anything he decides to my children, my grandchildren and me.

All the way to Extreme Unction.

The Vicar of Christ is the Holy Father, good or bad.

Pray for him and all his Priests and Religious.

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Pablo said...

Dear Mr. Haley,

You believe a Bishop would need to have a large amount of courage to grant faculties to SSPX Priests.

In the face of whom?

During the reign of Vatican II, if a Priest wants to say the Tridentine Mass, many of those Priests are told they are in need of psychology to correct their aberrant behavior. Many are ex-communicated with lightning speed by their Bishops for saying the True Mass.

It is apparent that leaving souls to the discretion of the Bishops is having a detrimental effect upon souls in most cases.

The SSPX Priests need to be granted authority by the Holy Father, not the local Bishop.

I was not amused when the local Bishop sent a woman to my hospital room to ‘give me communion’. It looked like she was carrying it around in her purse.

This is a Bishop that “Spent seventeen years in Rome, and is a Canon Lawyer”

He would substitute a Priest for a catholic woman that practices birth control and lectures at Mass and only has two children? (because its too expensive to have more). And on and on.

Pray God force the Holy Father to do the right thing: Over ride the Bishops.

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Anonymous said...

The T.L.M. at St. Louis Bertrand Chapel in South Vallejo has recently had a time change, it's now celebrated at 4:30 pm and not 6:30

Anonymous said...

The T.L.M. at St. Louis Bertrand Chapel in South Vallejo has recently had a time change. It's now celebrated at 4:30 pm