Are you sure they know the rubrics?
It looks like they don't or they are mixing two forms of the Mass.
Very odd. I got to the Kyrie and turned it off. No idea what that was. Hopefully it's some old Benedictine rite I'm unaware of.
What rubrics were they breaking?Just because I choir starts late doesn't mean they "broke rubrics". The pedantry of some traditionalists is what gives the movement a bad name. These are some of the finest and holiest monks in the western Church. They also happen to be doing a great deal for the cause of the Tradition. I suppose since they aren't polemical and fringe, we can assume they are just sloppy and lackadaisical monks because they happen celebrate both forms of the Roman Rite.I wish the people who post here would pray to God for the grace to see Catholicism in all its beauty instead of through the narrow lens of post 1988 Traditionalism which thinks Msgr. Lefebvre was the greatest saint of the last century.I am grateful to Rorate but tired of the pettiness of many commenters. Yours,CampionP.S. I leave judgement to God alone for the souls of those who have not been canonized by Holy Mother Church, including Archbishop Lefebvre.
It is a wonderful thing to see the traditional liturgy back at the heart of monastic life. Thanks be to God for the monks' work.The versus populum Epistle and circum-incensation are permitted, if unfamiliar in many traditionalist circles (at least according to the 1962 rubrics, or perhaps earlier; maybe readers who know more than I would like to elaborate), but I don't doubt that the monks have no desire other than that the Sacred Mysteries be celebrated in good order.Oremus pro invicem!
CampionLighten up.The commenters are just asking a few questions.No polemics here.
Yes I want to know what rubrics they were breaking? Please enlighten me, because this is how the Mass is sometimes done at an SSPX church where I attend. The choir sometimes starts REALLY late.
Thank you New Catholic for posting this video of such a beautiful mass from a very youthful new Benedictine community. I have been very impressed by what I have read about this community and the particular apostolate given them by our Holy Father.I wish I had access to reverential and uplifting liturgies such as this one on a regular basis. Their chanting sounded absolutely divine!John
Lumpy Rutherford,I take obedience to the rubrics and liturgy of Holy Mother Church very seriously, and therefore I would prefer not to "lighten up" about that topic.Also, I stand by what I said about post '88 traditionalism and the bitterness/pettiness of many within the "camp". If I could have said it more charitably, I apologize and will try to find more charitable ways to write in the future.For those who are interested, the prior of the Monastero San Benedetto is Father Cassian who is a consulter to the CDW and professor at Sant Anselmo in Rome. He and the Holy Father are old acquaintances and the Holy Father has given him a very particular charge.Let us pray for these our brothers in the Faith and beg the Lord to give them many holy vocations.
Hey all you liturgical nit-pickers and self proclaimed armchair critics. Apart from the choir starting a bit late [maybe the choirmaster was caught up for a moment, things happen] there was nothing wrong with the way Mass was celebrated. Have a look at the 1962 edition of the Roman Missal and you will find there are two diagrams on how to incense an altar - one way, with the altar attached to the wall or reredos and the other when the altar is free standing.WRT Epistle, what they did was quite within the rubrics.The old canard: what is the difference between a liturgist [or those who think they know the liturgy, more often,]and a terrorist? You can reason with a terrorist. My experience is that this applies equally to some of those pro-1962 Missal and to those intransigently opposed to anything that existed before the liturgical workshops of the 1970s. The good monks' celebration showed the best of the Roman liturgy in its sobriety and noble simplicity, rather than some celebrations which seem to emphasise 'salvation by haberdashery.'
Surprise surprise, there are also options in the rubrics of the TLM.
That was very beautifully done. Ut in omnibus glorificetur Deus, indeed. Very Benedictine.
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