Rorate Caeli

Bonjour!

In a visit to the communities and faithful residing within the Parish of Blessed John XXIII, the Bishop of Nice, Louis Sankalé, visited the local house of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX); where he was "cordially" received by Father Charles Moulin.

Pictures from the website of the Diocese of Nice:


26 comments:

poeta said...

Nice gesture (no pun intended).

Saint Michael Come To Our Defense said...

Nice gesture of friendship.

So was the documentary of Dan ‘Point Man for Freemasonry’ Rather’s ‘True Believers' in its treatment of the SSPX and especially His Excellency Bishop Bernard Fellay.

On the subject of good treatment between brothers, this brings us to one subject:

His Excellency Bishop Richard Williamson.

Father Pluger, of the Menzingen, Switzerland SSPX Headquarters, in a letter to his friends dated January 3rd, 2011, castigates Bishop Williamson and advises his friends of the imminent expulsion of Bishop Williamson, and others within the SSPX that support him and his line of reasoning.

Is Rorate Caeli going to post anything on this issue?

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Saint Michael Come To Our Defense said...

correction, January 1st, 2011.

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Christopher J. Paulitz said...

Very encouraging!

Mater magna said...

A wonderful thing. If only every bishop with the SSPX in his diocese would do likewise! Better than consorting with protestants as they usually do during Church Unity Octave. Surely the priority should be unity within the one true Church, before we start reaching out to apostates?

Cruise the Groove. said...

Why, I wonder, would His Excellency visit the house of a religious group that has no canonical ministry or standing in the Church...unless...?

Anonymous said...

Saint Michael, where can we find this letter of Fr. Pfluger?

poeta said...

Didn't another French bishop recently invite the local SSPX priest to dinner along with the other priests in the diocese?

Tom the Milkman said...

The Lord continues to bless the faithful Society of St Pius X!

Paul Haley said...

Apologizing in advance for my selection of language, what I am waiting for is for one, just one, bishop with testicles to grant faculties to the SSPX in his diocese for the administration of the sacraments in the traditional form. What is Rome going to do then? The old canard that they don't exercise legitimate ministry goes right down the tubes.

These bishops are fond of saying they are the ruling power in their dioceses. Well, then, let's see a show of that power for Tradition. And, I'm well aware of the criticism such a bishop would face from the modernists and the possible assignment to a remote outpost as his reward but guts are guts, folks, and right is right regardless.

Anonymous said...

Is the Bishop a Frenchman? Why do the clergy in the diocesan website link photos look like sloppy ungroomed slobs? Also what is is with the wearing of cardigans over soutanes? It looks like an old woman or farmers wife in a dress with a cardigan on! Wouldnt a caped soutane be warm?

Anonymous said...

Is this Bishop of Nice the same one that lowered the boom on Fr. Michel?

A.M. LaPietra

Anonymous said...

Which one is the bishop?

It's hard to say, as he's wearing no distinctive clothing...

Saint Michael Come To Our Defense said...

"...what I am waiting for is for one, just one, bishop with testicles to grant faculties to the SSPX in his diocese..."

The Mass, proper sacraments, catechism, and so on are more important than the SSPX coming into a Diocese.

There are some Bishops that I am aware of, that have ‘former’ SSPX Priests working in their Diocese, quietly laying the foundation of repairing the damage done of the last forty plus years.

I have visited some of them; they struggle mightily to inculcate Catholicism in the Faithful that have lost their way.

Prudence is the wise road here.

Some SSPX Priests are well aware of the problems their Faithful can cause to souls seeking salvation; it is not good to unleash the wrath of some Traditionalists upon the infirm.

Please pray for these Bishops and Priests, and those silent Priests that pray for their success.

The SSPX is on the verge of becoming an even smaller remnant.

The actions of some in the SSPX Hierarchy have demonstrated a bad response to grace in the Society.

Pray God not abandon us in our sin.

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climateseptic said...

There's something very 'election campaign' about those photos... dunno.

Anonymous said...

yes I have noticed too that often priests of the SSPX wear cardigans over their cassocks even in Paris at Saint Nicolas du Chardonnet.
I wonder if they want to look miserable on purpose.
On the other side I have always been grateful for those priests who respect the classical ecclesiastical dress code.
By the way Our Holy Father was wearging a cardigan the day he was elected when he appeared on the balcony at Saint Peter. But now he just looks splendid!

Paul Haley said...

Adding a postscript, if I may, to my previous post - wouldn't it be just perfect if this bishop were, say, the Bishop of Rome? The modernists would be beside themselves in confusion and disarray. What a master`stroke that would be for Tradition!

Gideon Ertner said...

It looks like one of the priests wearing a cardigan over the soutane is the FSSPX priest. But of course he doesn't look like an old woman...

Anonymous said...

There is a protest against Bishop Fellay SSPX being planned at gates of Menzingen.Local media are being contacted.

Anonymous said...

Forgive the old cynic in me, but these types of nice gestures never typically happen ad hoc. Something is certainly a foot when a French bishop plays nice with the local SSPX clergy.

And if I had to surmise, I would say this bodes well for a fairly imminent public regularization of the SSPX or at least a confirmation that the perception among the French bishops that one is imminent.

Niceness aside, this does add hope to a change in the tide fairly soon.

Sincerely, Neophyte

Anonymous said...

I imagine they wore the cardigan because they were cold. it is winter, even among traditionalists.

Joe B said...

"it is not good to unleash the wrath of some Traditionalists upon the infirm."

I have never, ever seen this in 40 years. Not with SSPX, not with FSSP, not even with "independents", and I have had fairly extensive interaction with all three. Not saying never, of course, but let us balance the truth here.

However, Novus Ordo bishops do this regularly when confronting traditionalists.

Paul Haley said...

"There are some Bishops that I am aware of, that have ‘former’ SSPX Priests working in their Diocese, quietly laying the foundation of repairing the damage done of the last forty plus years."

"The SSPX is on the verge of becoming an even smaller remnant."

"The actions of some in the SSPX Hierarchy have demonstrated a bad response to grace in the Society."

Are you implying the SSPX is responsible for the damage done during the last forty plus years? If so, I wonder what planet you've been living on? And, by the way, the SSPX is only the tip of the spear that is the traditional movement in the Church. The "tip of the spear" which many believe is the only reason why there has been some, albeit slight, movements towards Tradition in the novus ordo "wonderland"."

Remember that hard-liners, although they exist in the SSPX, do not represent the whole of the Society nor do they represent the views of Bishop Fellay and the rest of the Society. There are many holy priests who have given their all for the cause of Tradition in the Church. And, to this day, because they refuse to drink of the Modernist Kool-Aid they remain, offically, without faculties from the bishops who are supposed to be their shepherds. That is truly an injustice of enormous proportions.

LeonG said...

Time for newchurch bishops to wake up before they lose everything the pre-conciliar church established before they arrived on the scene and cheaply squandered their inheritance.

B. said...

@Paul Haley:
what I am waiting for is for one, just one, bishop with testicles to grant faculties to the SSPX in his diocese for the administration of the sacraments in the traditional form. What is Rome going to do then?

This has already happened. The bishop even asked Rome before, and Rome approved of it. The result was, that the SSPX immediately expelled the priest for "subordinating to another authority than the SSPX".

As a background: The priest was teaching in an Ecclesia Dei seminary with approval from his SSPX superiors. He asked the local bishop for faculties so that the seminarians could go to confession to him.

Paul Haley said...

@B,
I do not know the particulars of the situation that you cite but I cannot imagine the SSPX expelling a priest for seeking faculties from a diocesan bishop who sought and obtained prior approval from Rome for the granting of such faculties. The alleged fact that a priest of the SSPX was teaching at a diocesan seminary is, in itself, hard to believe.

That said, I remain convinced that the Bishop of Rome must intervene to prevent such occurrences in future. The old canards of disobedience and lack of full communion just don't seem to fit anymore, if they ever did.

Did this expelling happen at Bishop Fellay's express direction and with his approval or was it the reaction of an embittered foe who happened to be in a position of authority locally? In any case the point that must be emphasized is that this situation cannot be allowed to continue. There is no room for traditional orders to be forming circular firing squads.