Rorate Caeli

Vote for the Al-Irsyad Mosque...

Why vote for an ugly Catholic building in Mexico (San Josemaría Escrivá) or for a horrible Catholic parish church in Croatia (Saint Luke) when you may just as well vote for a nice mosque? The least we can do is to prompt contemporary architects to focus all their religious creativity into building mosques...

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't mind if they want to build mosques on Mars planet....

Pedro said...

The mosque intrigues me a little. Does it mean that there are also modernists among the Muslisms? (Or whatever their equivalent of modernists are -- I'm asumming they also regard sacred architecture as deeply linked to the worship of God, as we do)

Anonymous said...

I couldn't vote for anything!

One may never choose something intrinsically evil--they all were!

Anonymous said...

I believe that monstrosity of a 'church' named after Jose Escrivá is in Spain, not Mexico.

Anonymous said...

Uh, am I the only one who thinks all of these are ugly? I don't think the mosque is any better than the others.

Hieronymus

T.R. Peacocke said...

Hieronymus,

I don't think that New Catholic was suggesting that the Mosque was any less ugly than the "Catholic" structures. He just wants to encourage the architects who build these eyesores to channel their energies into building mosques rather than churches. I'm sure it's done in jest, since, architects do these things primarily to make money--and, unfortunately, there appear to be Catholics willing to spend it on these ugly designs.

El Juan said...

It said "religious architecture" but all I found were images of contemporary art museums. On second thought, the museum is where the modern, hip church building will end up once the Restoration is complete.

Anonymous said...

On the top of the webiste page is a contact email. I have emailed the site telling them what garbage all the nominations are. I asked for a chance to vote that all are effluent. We need to harshly discourgage this sort of dated ugly modernism influencing religious architecture.

Anonymous said...

i couldn't vote without giving them access to my facebook :( so i'm not voting

Anonymous said...

Is the whole idea to vote for the UGLIEST? It's a fierce competition if so!

Xavier.

LeonG said...

Modernism & mahomatenism are oxymorons.

Ken said...

Can't Opus Dei open its checkbook and pay the architect enough not to build that thing?

Jan Baker said...

Pedro--this is a late reply to you. Npr interviewed an imam who calls himself a moderate and says the problems are all coming from the fundamentalists, Christian and islamic both. The 138 muslim scholars who wrote and supported the pope after his back-door assertion in Regensburg that islam was inherently evil are considered modernizers of islam, and a look at their program proves it (google it). The bishops synod in October called for the modernization of islam. Moderates, or modernizers, want secular states, women's lib,no shariaa law preventing banking speculation, fiat money (koran says gold,silver backed). Trads want religious state, gold standard, strict morality law, and regular mosques, not modernized. BOTH want democracy, according to the Gallup Poll last year, but trads want constitutional guarantees that islamic principles rather than secular be recognized. Women are a majority in every university there already no matter what the state type.

It is very interesting,especially to trads. I am trying to write abot it for my little blog. Google Kerantam in Malaysia for a look at what they believe to be a peaceful but very conservative religious state where buddhists may and do proselytyze at festivals, at least, and the Catholic dioceses there are no more, no less, active or oppressed than here. I checked out their web sites. Same sermons, same announcements. Malasian morals police busted some unmarried couples in hotel rooms on Valentine's Day. It's a day to challenge morality all over the region, apparently, by hetero, homo, and everything like here except twenty years behind--"free love is great!' their young people are trying to say, fueled by western fantasy and movies. A friend sent me the link making arch fun of Malaysia. He himself, a Catholic, carried on a years-long affair at work, but he's sorry now and the wife forgave him. But he makes fun of Malaysia for making its sentiments about pre-marital sex have some effect (a hundred were arrested, 90 got warnings, the rest were second or third timers and got counseling). It cracked me up. We don't know what we want, do we. It's pretty interesting. The islamic trads actually use the term freemasons, and attack liberalism. The press is calling everything in the middle east a muslim state, but don't be confused. Those states are actually totally secular,what resulted when colonialism had to make a deal, and much of the demonstrating is to get a real religious state. They're 'muslim' the way the US is 'Christian.' The synod document complains that if they get religious states, Catholics there will be marginalized (they don't say they'll get killed--they say Palestine is the cause of that violence, but reading islamic sources, I think it's our denial of their legitimate desire for non-secular states that is driving them crazy. But it's quite stupid for novus ordo Catholic bishops to complain of being marginalized by islam, they've contracepted themselves out of existence already, the synod document refers to it. And we're marginalized here, in secularism. All Catholics have been marginalized since the Reformation. Then at the Council, they took away the possibility of the Restoration. Did you know, in the 90's, East Timor had to re-write its constitution. East Timor is like 98% Catholic. They wanted Catholicism to be part of their constitution. Their bishops said the Council said no. Now islam is trying hard to fill the power vacuum before secularism eats them all. Of course it's an islamic takeover.

I wish we'd take a page from their trad book and start our own Catholic brotherhood.

NPR--http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=133808748

synod document--http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_20100606_instrumentum-mo_en.pdf