"ASSISI, ITALY - OCTOBER 27: Pope Benedict XVI and Archbiscop of Canterbury Rowan Williams (in red) pray with other religious leaders in front of the cript of Saint Francis at the end of the meeting 'Pilgrims of truth, pilgrims of peace ' a day of reflection, dialogue and prayer for peace and justice in the world at the Saint Francis Basilica on October 27, 2011 in Assisi, Italy."I thought there wasn't going to be any common prayer.
It is a moment of adoration (for some) and silent respect (for others) in front of the Lord and King of the world. Not exactly common prayer - and it looks quite admirable.
Hmm, Patriarch Bartholomew wears cufflinks too. How about that?
Rowan William and an Orthodox (or is it an Eastern Catholic) are kneeling.The rest of the Orthodox aren't kneeling although they are in front. Do they still think that unleavened bread isn't a valid matter?Gee, an image where I give more respect for Rowan Williams than Orthodox.
Seriously, I find the second picture mildly encouraging. Only one prie-dieu was provided, since only one of the participants belongs to a communion that believes in God, the divinity of Christ, the Real Presence and the validity of Roman Catholic sacraments.
I can only imagine that the Pope, after having only a short time earlier heard the african voodoo-person talk about all religions being true, kneeling in front of the One True God, could only form one word in his mind:"Awkward..."
Some perspective is in order here. The Orthodox -- and most Byzantine Catholics -- tend to stand for worship, and see kneeling primarily as a penitential act reserved for explicitly penitential occasions. Even during the Solemn Papal Masses of the preconciliar era, the Greek Catholic deacon and subdeacon were required to STAND during the Canon and to only BOW at the Elevation, even as everyone else knelt. Certainly, the Orthodox and Byzantine Catholics tend to stand in church to say their prayers, even when the Blessed Sacrament is reserved on the altar (as is usually the case).
TY, Catholic Defender for the clarification. You were here before me :)Our Holy Father gives the good example: he falls on his knees and prays to God, while the rest watches (and maybe (some) pray, too)."We come together to pray", he told them, and then his action shows: here is the one, true, only and holy God. Example speaks more than words.Yes, I am being optimistic here. I liked the picture.
The part I do not understand is why an Anglican (arch)bishop stands between, amongst, what-have-you, with bishops from true Churches that have valid Orders. This deference to the Anglicans relative to other protestants seems disproportionate to objective sacramental reality.Concur that the Eastern Rites/Oriental Churches/Orthodox are following their praxis whereas Rowan Williams is following that of a Western Ecclesial community.
Wasn't so bad after all eh?;)
Consider the following:1) If EVERYONE knelt, people would be screaming, "Common prayer, common prayer, aaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!"2) If Pat. Bartholomew knelt, Orthodox from all over the world will be asking for his head while many Catholics will criticize him for not acting Byzantine. Just be happy that Assisi III didn't turn out to be the big scandal that many expected it to be.
Seems that many people is confused. I am scandalized. Just go and read Mortalium animos.
Thanks for posting this. God Bless the Holy Father.
The scandal is not that HAH Bartholomew was standing. As others have pointed out that is the customary posture of prayer and worship for Eastern Christians. The scandal is that HE WAS THERE! No Orthodox cleric has any business at this kind of pantheistic love fest.ANAXIOS!
An absurd exercise in ecumenical nothingness. This proves the SSPX right: this will give the impression that all religions are equal, and their prayers equally efficacious.
@Catholic Defender:Indeed. There is always the risk of a riot on Athos.;)Tu es Petrus...the admirable witness of the Fisherman.
ANOTHER DOG AND PONY SHOW ON A SMALLER SCLAE. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME
"It is a moment of adoration (for some) and silent respect (for others) in front of the Lord and King of the world. Not exactly common prayer - and it looks quite admirable."This was my impression while looking at these pictures, it is like homage paid to Christ the King of the world.
Is there a complete list anywhere of who the attendees were? I'm curious whether Patriarch Kirill sent a representative. Met. Hilarion of Volokolamsk?Looks like Rowan the Druid is bucking for a posh sinecure in the Ordinariate when he retires.On another note, it looks like a burgeoning crop of new noms de clavier since Mr. Anonymous was banned.
This whole thing is just plain silly, the whole idea now that it's scandalous is absurd because of the fact it's so meaningless.
I like these images. They lead me to want to pray (for all people to come to Christ) and I am even sort of moved by them, especially thinking what is the content of the Pope's prayer at this moment. I agree with New Catholic's comment.I feel impressed that the Ordinariate happened and obviously there were no such hard feelings that Rowan Williams wouldn't come kneel next to Pope Benedict at the tomb of St Francis. He is welcome to retire to the ordinariate.
Is this silly meeting over???I'm glad!Unity among peoples at this point in history, can only be brought about by the return of Christ the King!!!
The Holy Father seems to be saying: Lord, I've brought along these friends of mine; yes, I know they are a motley bunch... but have mercy on us all the same.
In his opening Papal address, Pope Benedict XVI stated "In 1989, three years after Assisi, the (Berlin) wall came down, without bloodshed . . . we may in some way link all this to our prayer for peace." The Pope's term was "our prayer for peace." Are we now to spin the terms "moment of adoration" and "silent respect" in order to pretend that the representatives of these world religions did not pray together?
I too liked the picture, maybe our Holy Father slipped in that Salve Regina that I had hoped for the other day after all.. Heaven heard it....
Who says that the Lord is present there? The Pope and the rest are praying before the tomb of Saint Francis and looking clearly at it above the altar.look hereDid you notice the lamp? The photo is an old one, but I bet there is a new lamp over there today.
"Unity among peoples at this point in history, can only be brought about by the return of Christ the King!!!"In reality, at this point in history, we await the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary!!!Our Lady is the real stumbling block when it comes to ecumenism.
Dear John,Compare the words of "Mortalium animos" with the deeds of the current Holy Father, who was a toddler when it was issued.Note also the large number of comments that violate the letter and the spirit of MA.The thought that comes to my mind is: state of emergency
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