According to the prelates present at today's press conference on Assisi III (official name: "Day of Reflection, Dialogue, and Prayer for Peace and Justice in the World - 'Pilgrims of Truth, Pilgrims of Peace' - Assisi, October 27, 2011"), those present will include:
-"From the Eastern Churches, 17 delegations";-"From the Western Churches and ecclesial communities, 13 delegations will be present";-From Jewish Organizations: delegations of the "International Committee on Interreligious Consultation", "of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel", the "Chief Rabbi of Rome";-"4 personalities in representation of the Traditional Religions of Africa, America, and India";-"18 people" of "religions related to the Indian subcontinent";-"67 Buddhists";-the "President of the Confucianism Association", "the President of the Tao Association", "2 Shinto delegations from Japan", representatives of "the New Religions of Japan";-"48 Muslims" from "Arab countries and the Middle East, and from Western nations", including "a representative of the King of Saudi Arabia and Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques", and "5 personalities, accompanied by other 7 Muslim representatives" from "Pakistan, Bangladesh, Thailand, and Indonesia;
- And also 4 invited guests of the Pontifical Council for Culture, including a member of the Austrian Communist Party.
The "search for truth" of the meeting "is a precondition for knowing one another better, for overcoming all forms of prejudice, and of syncretism which obscures identity". [Source: Bollettino of the Holy See Press Office.]
28 comments:
What- no Branch Davidians!
That's not very ecumenical. I'm so scandalised.
I'd like to know who is funding all these folks!!
JerryO
I'd like to know who is funding all these folks!!
Jerry
I think the separated Western Churches are PNCC or certain Old Catholics that have retained a valid episcopacy and Eucharist.
"The "search for truth" of the meeting "is a precondition for knowing one another better, for overcoming all forms of prejudice, and of syncretism which obscures identity."
________________________
This is not the voice of God. I recognize the voice of my Shepherd, and this is not He speaking.
Run!
17 heretics and schismatics
13 Novus Ordos
4 African Witch Doctors (or their equivilant)
18 assorted pagans and infidels
67 Buddhist!!!
48 Muslims
What happened to the Atheists?
What ever happened to the goal of converting the world to the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Catholic Church? Am I missing something or am I just a "passe" Catholic?
"Who will be present in Assisi III?"
Nice comprehensive list, but you forgot somebody.
Yeah, him.
1Corinthians 10: 20-21
Anon. 18 October, 2011 14:40said:
"67 Buddhist!!!"
CATHOLIC MOTHERHOOD
Oh to be Buddhist
Sought after most wooedist
By men who excuse
Much that’s lewd.
I’ve only a broodist
Ten souls who aren’t Buddhist
Once again booed, screwed
And tattooed!!
Seems unfair not to invite Satanists. From what I've heard they're anything but relativist about their ideals, and they certainly believe in something transcendental. The object of their worship is the same as that of several of the present religions anyway, at least they aren't dishonest about it, and actually call him by his real name.
\\What happened to the Atheists?\\
They are the invited communists/marxist.
Most holy Theotokos, save us.
Sounds very much San Egidio-like. They are so nice. :)
""""The "search for truth" of the meeting "is a precondition for knowing one another better, for overcoming all forms of prejudice, and of syncretism which obscures identity."""
BLASPHEMY! We must do much penance.
I thought that the Catholic Church already possessed the Truth - all of it.
Why are we searching for what we already have?
Delphina
Jerry,
That's a good question. Yes, who is funding these people?
Delphina
So, it looks like the Atheists will be at Assisi afterall. In a recent article by Andrea Tornielli, we find the explanation for why they will be present. Here's a warning, don't try to make sense out of it.
"by Andrea Tornielli, Rome
"The Pope wanted the Atheists in Assisi." Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Pontifical Council for Culture, returning from Bucharest, where he received an honorary degree and has chaired a meeting of the "court of the gentiles", explains to reporters the programs and projects of his department. He also explains how the idea to invite some non-believers to Assisi for the interreligious prayer meeting for peace on the twenty-fifth anniversary of that led by John Paul II in 1986.
"It was an idea of Benedict XVI's", says the cardinal of Milan, "and he himself presented it during a meeting with some cardinals in sight of the preparations for Assisi. "In doing so, explains Ravasi, "Ratzinger shows that he holds in great esteem an ancient teaching of Christian theology: man is made of natural and supernatural. The supernatural does not remove or destroy nature, but perfects it. It sets itself, that is, an additional element, but does not eliminate human nature. So the invitation of the Pope's attempt to reassert the importance of the relationship between faith and reason." (END)
So, the Atheists are there to represent "reason", while the religions are there to represent "faith".
Maybe this is a practical way for "faith to be purified by reason".
-"From the Eastern Churches, 17 delegations";
I am starting to think the Old Calendarists may have a point. Kyrie eleison!
Tradfly said:
"What-no Branch Dravidian's?!
That's not very ecumenical! I'm so scandalized.
Jon said: "Who will be present in Assisi III?"
Nice comprehensive list, but you forgot somebody.
Yeah, him.
1Corinthians 10: 20-21
YOU GUY'S ARE TOO FUNNY MAN! I WISHED I HAD SMILEY'S TO ADD! OR SAD FACES FOR THE ONES LOOKING FOR TRUTH AT A FALSE RELIGIOUS MEET!
I think the point of the ahteists is that, if grace perfects nature, and if the atheists are truly seeking truth by reason, then their encounter with Christianity is an opportunity for their reason to be perfected by the grace of faith. That's what this "search for truth" is about; the Pope claerly doesn't intend to learn anything _from_ the other religions. Learning _about_ one another eliminates prejudice (Catholics are Cannibals! Jews drink babies' blood! Muslims take children to bed!) and then take a good look at what the other religions are proclaiming. The pope, if you read any of his writings, does not believe that Catholics need to go to other religions to learn about the truth. But he _does_ believe that Catholics have an opportunity to witness concerning that truth, to other religions, and implicitly to invite the other religions to embrace Christianity. That is waht he is subtly doing. Moreover, mutual understanding _does_ reduce religious violence, which is a subordinate goal. However, unlike John Paul II, Benedict XVI is running Assisi with a distinctive _intellectual_ bent (hence the atheists), hoping to demonstrate to them and to the world that Christianity is not unreasonable, that it has something valuable, and that it deserves a hearing. This is a preliminary to the sort of speech that you see Paul give in Acts which, although it doesn't sway many, did (according to tradition) convert Dionysius. Paul first engages in a dialogue with them, having studied their ways; then he declares the truth. Assisi is Paul's study of the Athenians (his tour through their houses of worship); papal encyclicals are his speech.
PLease don't try to claim that Benedict really believes that we should be praying with other religions. He has been consistently clear that this is not the case. Recall his visit to a mosque, when the imam prayed and Benedict stood beside him but did not pray with him, and made this quite clear through his press secretary in follow up interviews.
...and a partridge-worshipper in a pear tree!
Seriously, where are the Muggletonians? the Slaves of the Divine Peacock? the UFO cultists?
Depressing!
and to borrow from Jack:
"Most holy Theotokos, save us."
Barbara
I appreciate what you wrote Anon 19.39,we should defend Our Holy Father, nonetheless, it's still depressing....
Barbara
I visit here often but rarely comment. Thank you Annonymous 19:39 for your great comment. It is sad to see many very flip comments on here about the Holy Father and his intentions. He is concerned about saving souls by bringing them to the Lord, very much like St. Paul, and in a world very much like what St. Paul faced. Let us pray for him, and remember that he does know the Faith, and has grace to live his calling. And he knows that the world is in great need of the Lord.
The severity of this abomination is beyond belief. Get ready for a major chastisement.
Anon 00.20 said:
"He is concerned about saving souls by bringing them to the Lord, very much like St. Paul, and in a world very much like what St. Paul faced."
I am sure Our Holy Father is concerned about saving souls, but I still have difficulty reconciling the fact that he was against these events as Cardinal, and now....reading this list of participants ....unsettling ....
hoping that the Holy Spirit will guide Our Holy Father every step of the way....
Barbara
It seems to me that many Traditionalists think that ANY meeting of a Catholic with a non-Catholic is scandalous, unless it's for the purpose of bashing the head of the non-Catholic and to tell him to convert.
Ah, but you see, JDF, this is not just any meeting of a Catholic with a non-Catholic. This is the Pope, in his official capacity as earthly head of the Church (which is the Mystical Body of Truth Himself), meeting on equal terms with adherents of every sort of belief and unbelief in what the Holy See itself describes as a "search for truth." The only appropriate responses are prayer, protest and, yes, mockery.
Deo gratias!
onward to justice and peace on earth
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