The
website of the German District of the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX) relays the reports from Italian news agency ANSA and German weekly
Der Spiegel, indicated by
La Stampa yesterday that the Congregation for the Doctrine for the Faith will analyze and forward to the Holy Father their opinion on the response to the doctrinal preamble delivered by the Superior General of the SSPX, Bp, Bernard Fellay, on April 17. "
The pope will have the final word."
Der Spiegel expects a favorable decision by Benedict XVI:
"Pope Benedict XVI is expected to allow the Society of St. Pius X, an ultraconservative, controversial splinter group, back into the Catholic Church in an agreement likely to be taken before the end of May, SPIEGEL has learned."
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Our Lady of Mt. Carmel pray for us, your children and for our Holy Father and Benedict XVI--May 16 is the feast of St. Simon Stock!
Well, that's the Vatican for you !
Festina lente seems to be its motto.
Praying that this agreement comes soon. And that it's a good one for both Rome and the FSSPX so that Catholic orthodoxy and tradition will someday replace the Vatican II modernism and relativism of the last fifty years.
Our Lady of Fatima pray for us!
Perhaps Ratzinger has made his mind sufficiently obscure to everyone in the Vatican that the CDF guys will be more worried about making him angry with the wrong response to Fellay's addendum to the preamble than with repeating the stupid mantra about the council again.
Good grief... for these guys, letting go of the council is like letting go of a toxic girl friend... it seems impossible until you actually do it...
--Zak
The SSPX will continue being the much-needed thorn in the Modernists' side, regardless if the SSPX splits or regularizes en masse.
Also, I wonder if the minutes of this Feria IV meeting will look like those of the meetings held April 12-14, 1988? How might they differ? How might they be the same?
Zak said: "Good grief... for these guys, letting go of the council is like letting go of a toxic girl friend... it seems impossible until you actually do it..."
Wow, what an analogy and as having had one of those in years past while living as a pagan, I can say 100% accurate.
Freemasonry intromitting:
THE TABLET
"Germany seeks assurances on SSPX
11 May 2012
The vice-president of the Bundestag has visited the Holy See to convey German government concerns over negotiations between the Vatican and the Society of St Pius X (Lefebvrists).
German anxieties revolve around the fact that the SSPX refuses to accept Nostra Aetate, the Second Vatican Council document which rejected all forms of anti-Semitism and prepared the ground for a new relationship between the Church and both Judaism and Israel.
Wolfgang Thierse, a committed Catholic, met Cardinal Kurt Koch, the President of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity.
Cardinal Koch told him that the SSPX must accept the authority of the Church's Magisterium and must recognise the Second Vatican Council."
Zak, that bit about the toxic girlfriend was worth a good chuckle. :)
I think, as is often said, the Council will probably never be completely put in its proper context until all the men, whose baby it was, have gone to their eternal reward. But the process has started. Good men within the Church are now asking questions, and this would have been unheard of several years ago.
Well, Carlos... We knew it would start sooner or later, didn't we?
Time to ratchet up the prayers and sacrificies even further.
Let's just hope that Benedict XVI is ready to overrule Cardinal Levada and his pit bulls in the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Once this is over, we can pray that the bad Cardinal may be retired to a bath chair and sent to a nursing home, which is where he belongs.
P.K.T.P.
I expect a decision, for better or for worse, on the Vigil of Ascension Thursday, and we might hope for a public announcement of same on the Vigil of Pentecost. This Pope loves significant datess and all his important acts have fallen either on signifcant liturgical dates or other symbolic dates (e.g. 7.7.2007 for S.P.).
Pray hard but remember that there can be a long delay from the time of signing to the time of publication. For U.E., we had to wait two to three weeks for the signed document to wend its way from the Pope's piano to the printing presses. It is said that the letter was conveyed by an old friar who only took one step each day.
P.K.T.P.
Usually, the Pope and the CDF Prefect meet on Fridays. So, if the CDF will examine the SSPX question this Wednesday, its decision will probably be submitted to the Pope during next Friday's audience.
The subsequent steps are a mystery. Are we clear to the effect that Bishop Fellay's response (accepting the Doctrinal Preamble) already included the acceptance of the proposed Personal Prelature?
If not, then there will probably be an announcement regarding the reconciliation, but not an immediate announcement of the canonical structure, the erection of which would then take place on a later date.
If the example of Campos were followed, there would be a Papal Letter declaring the remission of all ecclesiastical censures of the members of the SSPX (in this case, suspension, etc, since the excommunications were already lifted), and declaring the reception of the SSPX into full ecclesiastical communion with the See of Rome.
Of course, they could do things differently. For instance, a Papal Letter could be replaced by a PCED or CDF Decree.
At a later date, the canonical structure would be established. If a Personal Prelature would be erected, that would be done by means of an Apostolic Constitution, but alternatively the Pope could also delegate, either to the Ecclesia Dei Commission, or to the CDF, or to the Congregation of Bishops, the power to issue a decree of erection.
Anyways, since everybody is saying that the Holy See wants reconciliation to happen in the present month of May, and since the SSPX rosary crusade ends this Pentecost Sunday, it seems probable that any announcement of the reconciliation (or even the signature of any papal document or dicasterial decree) would take place during the Pentecost weekend.
"German anxieties revolve around the fact that the SSPX refuses to accept Nostra Aetate..."
and then
"Cardinal Koch told him that the SSPX ... must recognise the Second Vatican Council."
I'm sick of Catholic media sources using such broad and imprecise language. What does it mean to "accept" Nostra Aetate? And to say that the SSPX "refuses to accept" Nostra Aetate seems a bit extreme to me. I think the SSPX are somewhat uncomfortable with certain formulations within the document, but they certainly recognize that it is a document produced by the Church's Magisterium, and they probably agree with certain things contained in it (namely, prohibitions against anti-Semitism).
I'm a fan of Cardinal Koch, but the language of "they must 'recognise' Vatican II" is not helpful. What does that even mean? Do they have to acknowledge it as a Magisterial act? Perhaps. Do they have to accept it in the same way one must accept the dogmatic definitions of the Council of Trent? No.
"I'm a fan of Cardinal Koch..."
Talk about a small group.
'I'm a fan of Cardinal Koch...' that might explain why you don't understand that the SSPX rejects certain Vatican 2 documents and has made that point abundantly clear over the years
I hope the agreement comes as soon as possible, an when it is fix, we can sing
Vere dignum est iustum est, aequum et salutare, nos tibi semper et ubique gratias agere, Domine, sancte Pater, omnipotens aeterne Deus. Quia ipsum in Christo salutis nostrae mysterium hodie ad lumen gentium revelasti et, cum in substantia nostrae mortalitatis apparuit, nova nos immortalitatis eius gloria reparasti. Et ideo cum Angelis et Archangelis, cum Thronis et Dominationibus cumque omni militia caelestis exercitus hymnum gloriae tuae canimus sine fine dicentes: Sanctus Sanctus Sanctus
Marius Augustin, Poing, Germany
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