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Dear Cardinals, think ecumenically!
Russian Orthodox Met. Hilarion: "We hope for a traditionalist Pope"

We bring to the attention of the dear Lord Cardinals the important ecumenical desire of the Russian Orthodox Church, as expressed by the head of the Department of External Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, Metropolitan Hilarion:

"It is very likely that the new Pope will be italian, as before John Paul II": it is the prediction given to public television Vesti 24 by Metropolitan Hilarion, head of the Department of External Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate. ... "I hope that the new Pope is a traditionalist," he concluded. [Italian news agency ANSA]

So do we... So do we...

26 comments:

Eugene said...

As a traditionalist Russian Catholic, I do share Metropolitan Hilarion's sentiments. However, we have to be realistic. I'm not holding my breath on this one.

Jacob Biddle said...

Que sera sera! If we get a "traditionalist" it will be a great gift to the Church. If we get a "liberal" then we will make do. No matter who fills the shoes of the fisherman traditionalism will grow and grow until everything is restored in Christ, through Mary. We are unstoppable.

John (Ad Orientem) said...

As an Orthodox Christian I strongly second the prayerful wish of His Beatitude Met. Hilarion.

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Stan said...

I visited an Orthodox convent recently (I live in one of the former soviet republics.) One of the nuns asked me if I was Protestant. I told her I was Catholic. She went on to say how terrible it is that in Catholic churches the priest faces "west" rather than "East" as Christ wanted. She also asked if it was true that Catholic nuns do not cover their hair in Church.

Other Orthdox people in the villages here have asked if it is true about altar girls, Eucharistic ministers, etc.

Self inflicted wounds.

Wake Up England said...

Orhodox or Liberal is the least of our worries - let us all pray he won't be unfavourably featured in the report of the three cardinals who looked into the "Vatileaks" business. It seems the voting cardinals will not be made aware of this report prior to the election. In the light of recent events in Scotland, we must all pray that the Cardinal elected to the papacy has a blameless record.

IM said...

+1

NIANTIC said...

I too share the sentiments as expressed by Metropolitan Hilarion who, in addition to being the second ranking prelate in the Russian Orthodox Church, is an accomplished composer.

Whether we know it or not, we Catholics need the Orthodox, and the Orthodox need the Catholics. Together we must be the shining light of Christ in the darkness we live in. We must together finally achieve Christ's command; "ut unum sint".

Hidden One said...

Three cheers for ecumenism!

Woody said...

Oremus--and hard!

Wormwood said...

Are the conclave Cardinals allowed by Church law to choose someone who is not a Cardinal but just a bishop, someone who is not one of them?

Angelino said...

May he be a traditionalist indeed. Note: not merely "tradition-minded."

Prof. Basto said...

This is a brand of ecumenism I like!

Prof. Basto said...

Wormwood,

Yes. They can choose any man who is unmarried and capable of receiving Holy Orders, so they do not need to choose a Cardinal, and they do not even need to choose a Bishop.

I would say that the last time a non-Cardinal was elected Pope was back in 1378 when Urban VI was elected Pope, but then again, you might answer that the last papal resignation before 2013 was back in 1415.

The last non-Bishop to be elected Pope was Gregory XVI in 1831, but he was already a Cardinal and a Priest. In fact, he had even served as an abbot, and was Prefect of the Propaganda Fide in the Roman Curia at the time of his election.

The last person elected to the Papacy who not only was not a Bishop but also was not even a priest was Leo X in 1513. But he was already a Cardinal and had already been ordained Deacon at the time of the election.

Realistically, though, a Cardinal is most likely to be chosen, and a Cardinal elector, for that matter. If they were to choose a Cardinal non-elector, that would in itself be pretty impressive and extraordinary.

beng said...

Wormwod, technically all adult baptized catholic male (who's not excommunicated) can become Pope.

GQ Rep said...

"Wormwood said...
Are the conclave Cardinals allowed by Church law to choose someone who is not a Cardinal but just a bishop, someone who is not one of them?"

Yes.Any baptized Catholic layman can technically be elected Pope.

Electing a bishop rather than a Cardinal ALMOST happened in 1958, when many of the Cardinals wanted to vote for Giovanni Battista Montini, the Archbishop of Milan who was not yet a Cardinal. He was at the time 61. He did become Pope 5 years later, as Paul VI.
But if he HAD been elected in 1958, there would have been no Vatican II. :)

There are two Archbishops today who are awesome men of traditional Catholic faith who could be elected...Archbishop Francesco Moraglia , 59, Patriarch of Venice...and Bisop Athanasius Schneider, ORC, 52.

Let's pray that the new Pope is not a liberal, moderate,dialoguer, or an excessively "pastoral" person.

Benedict Carter said...

After my nearly thirteen years in Russia, I have a lot of time for the Orthodox, despite some of the unsavoury aspects of the Church's association with criminal types there.

But ecumenism is all about the proddies and the secular world, isn't it, it's never been about the Eastern Orthodox.

Bishop Hilarion and Patriarch Kiril and the other Orthodox look at the Novus Ordo and the myriad heresies in the Catholic Church with horror. They have a great deal of sympathy, however, for the SSPX.

Daniel Rosaupan said...

@ Are the conclave Cardinals allowed by Church law to choose someone who is not a Cardinal but just a bishop, someone who is not one of them?

In my opinion, yes. If I'm not mistaken, there was a precedent on that in the case of Pope Celestine V who also abdicated the Petrine ministry just five months after his election.

Matthew Rose said...

NIANTIC wrote:

"We must together finally achieve Christ's command; "ut unum sint"."

This is heretical. The Church is One, regardless of whether schismatic heretics rejoin her or remain outside the fold. Our Lord's prayer was fulfilled at Pentecost; this is a Dogma of the Church.

Jonvilas said...

As regards "ut unum sint", it was not Christ command, but his prayer to the Father, when he prayed asking that all of his chosen were one as He and Father are One.

Barbara said...

Well,I am hoping for a Holy Father who doesn't smile too much in public and knows the ENEMY. (He can be smiling inside - as only those who truly know and love Our lord Jesus can))especially in front of the mass-media and the world in general sunk in the filth of sin that wants to take us all to hell in a hand-basket!

As of late I have been looking closer at Cardinal Bagnasco- He fits the bill - not a smiler - pretty tough - a dignified solemn presence.... the right age? If I were cardinal elector....but alas!! I have in mind here also a couple of other cardinals the American from St. Louis...who loves the Sacred Heart....I wonder who the Sacred Heart will choose?

What a great time to be Catholic...

Praying the Novena with my family....Lord Jesus give us a Strong Holy Pope....

Barbara said...

Dear Wake-up England,

I believe the 3 Cardinals, authors of the REPORT, can speak freely in conclave about its contents...

Someone like to confirm this - that I didn't imagine it?

Barbara

lucas clover alcolea said...

I always said that, ironically, traditionalists and eastern orthodox have more in common than 'ecumenical' Catholics...

Matt said...

This is totally awesome, M. Hilarion said that. I've read in different places one of the points of contention with the Orthodox and reunion is the Novus Ordo. It was said they understood the Tridentine Mass for what it is, but when the Novus Ordo came along, they drew the line at that point.

It's interesting when those outside the Church are hoping for the return of Tradition it's pretty telling.

kodachromefilm said...

As long as he is a strong pope in fighting heresy as directed by the Holy Spirit, open to God's will, and is orthodox to the Seat of Peter! In short, orthodox to the Seat of Peter; open to do the will of God as Vicar of Christ.

Common Sense said...

What Christ does have in common with Belial? What tradition has in common with Novus Ordo? It has been foisted on Holy Church by Bugnini and his cohorts.