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Letter of Cardinal Bergoglio to Carmelites regarding the pending approval of "same sex marriage"

The bishops of Argentina came late to the political campaign promoted by the Kirchner couple to approve "same sex marriage" in Argentina, almost as if forced by some higher power (the Holy See?), which means that, in the end, they lost it, a first in a Latin-American nation. In order to make clear that our coverage is always balanced, and realistic, not marked by false optimism, we re-post that text first posted on July 9, 2010. This is, however, a kind of document rarely found in the history of the then-Archbishop.

By the way, you may find our many posts on the Church in Argentina and on then-Cardinal Bergoglio by searching our archives. Unlike others, we are not newcomers to this matter, and we know what we are talking about. 
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May the Holy Family join us "in God's war"


[July 9, 2010:] We have criticized Cardinal Bergoglio here before - not least because of his hostility towards the Traditional Mass -, but cannot fail to acknowledge this beautiful letter sent to the Carmelites of his diocese and made public this week, regarding the grave matter of the legal redefinition of marriage.

[Letter of Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Archbishop of Buenos Aires, to the Carmelite Nuns of the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires (June 22, 2010)]

Dear Sisters,

I write this letter to each one of you in the four Monasteries of Buenos Aires. The Argentine people must face, in the next few weeks, a situation whose result may gravely harm the family. It is the bill on matrimony of persons of the same sex.

The identity of the family, and its survival, are in jeopardy here: father, mother, and children. The life of so many children who will be discriminated beforehand due to the lack of human maturity that God willed them to have with a father and a mother is in jeopardy. A clear rejection of the law of God, engraved in our hearts, is in jeopardy.

I recall words of Saint Thérèse when she speaks of the infirmity of her childhood. She says that the envy of the Devil tried to extort her family after her older sister joined the Carmel. Here, the envy of the Devil, through which sin entered the world, is also present, and deceitfully intends to destroy the image of God: man and woman, who receive the mandate to grow, multiply, and conquer the earth. Let us not be naive: it is not a simple political struggle; it is an intention [which is] destructive of the plan of God. It is not a mere legislative project (this is a mere instrument), but rather a "move" of the father of lies who wishes to confuse and deceive the children of God.

Jesus tells us that, in order to defend us from this lying accuser, he will send us the Spirit of Truth. Today, the Nation [patria], before this situation, needs the special assistance of the Holy Ghost that may place the light of Truth amid the shadows of error; it needs this Advocate who may defend us from the enchantment of so many sophisms with which this bill is being justified, and which confuse and deceive even people of good will.

That is why I turn to you and ask from you prayer and sacrifice, the two invincible weapons which Saint Thérèse confessed to have. Cry out to the Lord that he may send his Spirit to the Senators who are to place their votes. That they may not do it moved by error or by circumstantial matters, but rather according to what the natural law and the law of God tell them. Pray for them, for their families; that the Lord may visit, strengthen, and console them. Pray that they may do great good for the Nation.

This bill will be discussed in the Senate after July 13. Let us look towards Saint Joseph, to Mary, the Child, and let us ask with fervor that they will defend the Argentine family in this moment. Let us recall what God himself told his people in a time of great anguish: "this war is not yours, but God's". That they may succour, defend, and accompany us in this war of God.

Thank you for what you will do in this struggle for the Nation. And, please, I beg you, pray for me also. May Jesus bless you, and may the Blessed Virgin protect you.

Affectionately,

Card. Jorge Mario Bergoglio s.j., Archbishop of Buenos Aires

The first results of the prayers of millions of Argentinians could be seen this week as a Senate committee voted down the bill approved by the Lower house, despite the intense pressure of the President, her husband and former President, and her government in favor of its approval [several news sources]. However, the matter is not yet over - the full Senate could still approve the bill this month.
[Source - in Spanish; tip: reader]

45 comments:

George said...

That's encouraging to read.

Lynda said...

May he be that strong in dealing with the evil among the dissenters and in the world. God protect him.

Jay said...

At least something positive about new Pope on Rorate Coeli, we should be all of good hope and pray fervently for the new successor of St Peter. Pope Francis asked for our prayers.

Prayer for Pope suggested by American branch of SSPX which was emailed today to subscribers:

Let us pray for Francis, our Pope.
R. May the Lord preserve him, and give him life, and make him blessed upon the earth, and deliver him not up to the will of his enemies. (Ps 40:3)
Our Father, Hail Mary
O God, Shepherd and Ruler of all Thy faithful people, look mercifully upon Thy servant Francis, whom Thou hast chosen as shepherd to preside over Thy Church. Grant him, we beseech Thee, that by his word and example, he may edify those over whom he hath charge, so that together with the flock committed to him, may he attain everlasting life. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

Diane K said...

Thanks for sharing.

Tom said...

Thank you, Rorate Caeli for that information. You may wish to post the following in regard to our new Pope. Thank you.

Pax.

Tom

Cardinal responds to blasphemous art exhibit

December 02, 2004

Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Argentina, called on the faithful this week not to be afraid and to persevere in the faith in response to a blasphemous art exhibit taking place in the Argentinean capital.

"For some time public expressions of ridicule and insult of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Most Holy Virgin Mary, as well as numerous exhibits against the religious and moral values we profess, have been on display throughout the city," the cardinal warned.

He lamented that the exhibiting of blasphemous art is taking place at a cultural center that is funded by taxpayer money.

"Jesus warned us that these things would take place, and with much tenderness he told us not to be afraid, that we are his small flock, that we should persevere in the struggle for the faith and in charity, placing our hope in him and praying with the true confidence of children of a Father who loves us," he added.

He also announced an act of reparation and request for forgiveness will take place on December 7, the vigil of the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception.

"I invite you to pray and fast on that day, as a day of penance during which we pray to the Lord, as a Christian community, for forgiveness of our sins and of those of our city. May our Lady of Lujan be with us in her affection," he concluded.

The cardinal made his statement in response to an art exhibit by Leon Ferrari, a well-known militant atheist who has made hundreds of anti-Catholic works such as saints burning themselves in a toaster, the Blessed Mother in a frying pan, and a statue of the Last Supper in which Christ and the Apostles face a pack of rats.

In 1997, Ferrari founded the Club for the Impious, Heretics, Apostates, Blasphemers, Atheists, Agnostics, and Infidels.

Anonymous said...

My wife's family is from Argentina. They have nothing but positive things to say about him. They do say his Liturgy is lacking, but love everything else about him.

While I hoped for a Pope in the Liturgical mold of Benedict, I'm just happy to have somebody who is theologically conservative. And who will hopefully clean up the Curia.

Oremus said...

"I invite YOU to pray and fast on that day, as a day of penance during which we pray to the Lord, as a Christian community, for forgiveness of our sins and of those of our city. May our Lady of Lujan be with us in her affection," he concluded.

"That is why I turn to YOU and ask from YOU prayer and sacrifice, the two invincible weapons which Saint Thérèse confessed to have. Cry out to the Lord that he may send his Spirit to the Senators who are to place their votes. That they may not do it moved by error or by circumstantial matters, but rather according to what the natural law and the law of God tell them. Pray for them, for their families; that the Lord may visit, strengthen, and console them. Pray that they may do great good for the Nation."

He seems to be good at asking OTHERS to pray (just as he did today) and also good at asking other people to bless him (kneeling for the protestant minister & asking for the people's blessing). I would prefer the traditional: let US pray.


Miles Dei said...

You could tranlate this to compensate de view:

http://panoramacatolico.info/observacion/yo-no-fui-fue-aguer-dice-bergoglio

JLM said...

From the Associated Press:

"Later, the new pope shunned a special car and security detail provided to transport him to the Vatican hotel. He decided to stay with the cardinals.

`I'll just go with the guys on the bus,' Dolan quoted him as saying."

I guess after Benedict's abdication, the Pope's just another one of the guys.

hopeful said...

"He also announced an act of reparation and request for forgiveness will take place on December 7, the vigil of the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception. I invite you to pray and fast on that day, as a day of penance during which we pray to the Lord, as a Christian community, for forgiveness of our sins and of those of our city. May our Lady of Lujan be with us in her affection," he concluded."

Beautiful. A true pastor, one with his flock and leader of his flock. He led his people and brought them at Mass to pray together against evil.

Uncle Claibourne said...

New Catholic, I'm with you. Second shot of Irish Whiskey in hand. :) I want to make the best of this. But I can't get past his abandonment on the Loggia of the few remaining signs of Papal authority.

MichaelD said...

He would not be the first bishop to refuse the trappings of his office. There are bishop saints who were persecuted for the same.

While not Catholic, John Maximovitch, the Russian archbishop of San Francisco in the 1960s, scandalized his faithful by his simplicity. He received shoes as gifts and gave them away wearing only sandals at most. His mitre was decorated by paper icons made by children. His cassock was dirty and unkempt. Some clergy even protested his funeral. Only as his canonization did they beg forgiveness.

Lets not be like those foolish ones who heap persecution upon the head of someone who is living the gospel in such an extreme manner. Let's not forget the pope is working out his salvation too, and woe to us for judging him for the way he does so.

John Chrysostom once remarked that things had fallen in his day too. "We once had chalices of wood and priests of gold; now we have chalices of gold and priests of wood."

Let's not get so hung up on the trappings, whether he wears this garment or that. Yes tradition is important, but to so harshly judge a man we know so little about, to criticize him for things we may someday look back on as holy, is skirting the edge of terrible sin in my opinion.

Maria said...

Here's an "interesting" children's mass he was in back in 2011. Look for Pinocchio at about 2:48.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwS9umpEkvs

youreapwhatyousow said...

pope emeritus, you're just bishop emeritus now, nobody to protect you anymore from the new pope. smackdown, guess you can't keep your chosen title.

Mons. Marini and bel Giorgio should start packing and looking for new jobs.

vivailpapavero said...

look for how he says mass in la sistina. He'll probably force marini to put the table alter back

Uncle Claibourne said...

Ok, third shot of Irish whiskey in hand (Jamison's, only one they have here), and I'm catching up on the previous threads.

MichaelD, please STOP making excuses. and drop the 'he's our new Pope, give him a chance' neocon rhetoric. Those symbols are critically important. He deliberately blew them off. The Papacy is being transformed before our eyes into what the Italian Masons wanted 150 years ago. Please! Let us all wake up.

Gratias said...

A Jesuit Pope. He speaks Italian with a thick Argentinian accent. A true Vatican II priest, set to rebuild the Church. No Latin Mass allowed in Buenos Aires. I guess Cardinal Mahony voted for him. Arghhhh.

Uncle Claibourne said...

New Catholic, you and your collaborators maintain a wonderful site. God bless you.

Once in a while, I shoot my mouth off here, but I truly appreciate the comments and insights of everyone who posts.

But after our Papa Emeritus, I feel, today, as if I've been punched in the gut. I've advocated for the SSPX, over the past several months, to "come home" because the tide had turned. After today, I can no longer say that with any confidence. We have several more years in the desert ahead of us, I'm sad to say.

Keep up the good work, New Catholic, and all of you keep commenting. :) The Lord bless and keep us. For me, it's time for silence and prayer.

reactions said...

Rorate Caeli blogspot has received a bog mention tonight on Rod Dreher's web page. He reported the straight facts about Rorate Caeli's reaction to the new pope and then comments from his readers were posted. Rorate Caeli is taking a beating there.

Francis Does Not Please Catholic Traditionalists
By Rod Dreher • March 13, 2013, 7:20 PM

The Rorate Caeli blog, written by Traditionalist Catholics, is deeply apprehensive about Cardinal Bergoglio’s elevation to the papacy, in particular because they say he was hostile to the traditional Latin mass in his archdiocese. But that’s not the whole thing. Here’s an excerpt they posted sympathetically from an analysis by an Argentine Catholic journalist:

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/francis-does-not-please-catholic-traditionalists/comment-page-1/

P.J.David said...

DEO GRATIAS!Let us Thank Our GOD Merciful Father,Our REDEEMER seated at the RIGHT hand of the Father,The HOLY GHOST, Power,Fire and the Light !Let us thank Our Blessed Mother who has interceded with the Holy Trinity and obtained the Favour we asked for.

Let us not forget the Blessed Apostles ,Arch Angels,our Guardian Angels , All the Saints and Angels and all the Holy ones who have interceded for us in these troubled days.
Let us Rejoice though we are in the midst of Lenten season but at the same time offer more prayers and Penance for the Divine protection for our Holy father to wear His TIARA and rule as the true VICAR OF Christ!
All the Guesses and speculations of the media are nothing more than trash before ALL MIGHTY and EVER LIVING GOD.

LET us Pray Hard that The POPE CONSECRATES RUSSIA TO THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY in the midst of wolves around him.May he purify the Catholic Church,restore the true and Holy Sacrifice of Mass for Peace of the whole world.

It is His battle and be hopeful be not overtaken by fear.

GOD BLESS OUR BELOVED POPE, a JESUIT. May the Jesuite order wake up and be the strong arm of the Pope once again.It is God's doing.

Hidden One said...

Contra the AP, Cardinal Dolan was not quoting Pope Francis; His Eminence was paraphrasing in jest what he thought that His Holiness must have said.

Jordanes551 said...

"Rorate Caeli blogspot has received a bog mention tonight on Rod Dreher's web page. He reported the straight facts about Rorate Caeli's reaction to the new pope and then comments from his readers were posted. Rorate Caeli is taking a beating there."

It's not at all clear that the opinion of an ex-Catholic who is not in communion with the Holy Father Pope Francis I, and the opinions of his readers, should be given any notice here or anywhere.

Anonymous said...

I am argentinian... this letter was send in secret by Bergoglio, and filtered to the press, while all his acts of government were the other way around on this subject. Read more about Bergoglio. Read more, this letter is an exception, believe me....

P.J.David said...


Why not expect a conversion,SAUL becoming PAUL, if all that we hear of new Pope? he is! GOD can do it.Let us not fear or doubt. He will be in favour of Traditional sacrifice of Mass.

Barbara said...

This is the most coherent Blog for traditionalist Catholics around. I trust NC and company. He is not the type to bandy around things at all.

He said:
"By the way, you may find our many posts on the Church in Argentina and on then-Cardinal Bergoglio by searching our archives. Unlike others, we are not newcomers to this matter, and we know what we are talking about."

At the same time I am with them in acknowledging faithfulness to Pope Francis with our prayer and scarifice for his pontificate.Let us see how our new Pontiff goes with his new office...

Nonetheless...

Quite frankly - I'm still in shock - and endorse every word of Uncle Claibourne - minus the whiskey in hand! Strong coffee - though.

Something about that speech - beotherhood , and no mention of his office as Pope - 3 or 4 times Bishop of Rome - and then asking the people to pray over him...made me feel uneasy - this was before I knew anything about him..

God Bless Our Pope, Holy Mary Mother of God protect Pope Francis the way only you can!

Thomas Manimala said...

I refer to our Holy Father’s speech below. Not a single time does he use the word POPE. Not a single time. I have underlined the plethora of times where he has confined papacy to bishop hood of Rome.


I have a sick feeling. I think he is for more decentralizing the church…..
Welcome democratic Catholic Church…..

The liberalism in governance will continue...

If anybody could help me with some cross arguments I will be happy and feel straight.

Nevertheless, I submit myself as a Catholic, voluntarily and fully to Pope Francis. I am sure he will not teach heresy.


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Brothers and sisters good evening.

You all know that the duty of the Conclave was to give a bishop to Rome. It seems that my brother Cardinals have gone almost to the ends of the earth to get him… but here we are. I thank you for the welcome that has come from the diocesan community of Rome.
First of all I would like to say a prayer pray for our Bishop Emeritus Benedict XVI. Let us all pray together for him, that the Lord will bless him and that our Lady will protect him.
Our Father…
Hail Mary…
Glory to the Father…
And now let us begin this journey, the Bishop and the people, this journey of the Church of Rome which presides in charity over all the Churches, a journey of brotherhood in love, of mutual trust. Let us always pray for one another. Let us pray for the whole world that there might be a great sense of brotherhood. My hope is that this journey of the Church that we begin today, together with the help of my Cardinal Vicar, may be fruitful for the evangelization of this beautiful city.
And now I would like to give the blessing. But first I want to ask you a favour. Before the Bishop blesses the people I ask that you would pray to the Lord to bless me – the prayer of the people for their Bishop. Let us say this prayer – your prayer for me – in silence.

[The Protodeacon announced that all those who received the blessing, either in person or by radio, television or by the new means of communication receive the plenary indulgence in the form established by the Church. He prayed that Almighty God protect and guard the Pope so that he may lead the Church for many years to come, and that he would grant peace to the Church throughout the world.]
[Immediately afterwards Pope Francis gave his first blessing Urbi et Orbi – To the City and to the World.]

I will now give my blessing to you and to the whole world, to all men and women of good will.
Brothers and sisters, I am leaving you. Thank you for your welcome. Pray for me and I will be with you again soon... We will see one another soon.
Tomorrow I want to go to pray to the Madonna, that she may protect Rome.
Good night and sleep well!

reactions said...

Dreher only gave quotes of exactly what this blog said about the new pope, and then people, some of them said they post here, gave their opinions about rorate. Dreher didn't give an opinion.

Chris said...

Let us pray that we are preserved against all Heresies at the intercession of the Holy Virgin Mother of God:

Rejoice, Virgin Mary, you alone have destroyed all heresies and believed what the archangel Gabriel spoke, while a Virgin you brought forth God and man, and after birth you remained a chaste virgin. We believe that the archangel Gabriel addressed you by divine inspiration. We believe that your womb was impregnated by the Holy Spirit. Let the unhappy Jew blush with shame, who says that Christ was born from the seed of Joseph.' (10th c. responsory at Vespers for the Purification)

«...preserve yourselves spotless and immaculate, neither communing with the aforementioned, nor paying attention to him as a teacher, if he remains a wolf instead of a shepherd and if he prefers after this reminder of ours to uphold perverse things.... We however are in communion with the clergy or laity who for the sake of the correct Faith have been separated or excommunicated by him, and we do not validate his unjust vote but rather, we praise those who suffer, telling them that ‘if you are scorned in the Lord you are blessed, for the Spirit of power and of God has reposed upon you' (1 Peter 4:14)
-St. Cyril of Alexandria

Following the local Synod of Alexandria which condemned the newly-appeared teaching of Nestorius as a heresy (430 A.D.), Saint Cyril wrote a letter to the simple faithful of Constantinople, encouraging them to abstain from every communion with Nestorius, if he did not repent. As for those who he (Nestorius) had severed from every communion with him, Saint Cyril regarded them as still canonically in communion with the Church.

B. said...

Hans Küng appeared on German TV yesterday saying that he was "completely satisfied" (yes, "satisfied" was his choice of words) with the election of Pope Francis.
This was in strong contrast to his reaction to the election of Pope Benedict.

dontunderstand said...

Understand that this is no attack on the Pope. I'll pray for him and hope he does great. For hours now the secular media and Catholic media and sites are saying a Latin American Pope will be great for the Church, especially in Latin America. That'll be enough to bring Hispanics and others back to the Church.

Excuse me, but in Latin America isn't the Church there already run by Hispanic cardinals and bishops? Aren't the parishes run by Hispanic priests? So why are Hispanic Catholics leaving the Church in Latin America in record numbers? And now the Latin American Church will become bigger because there's a Latin American Pope thousands of miles from there in Rome? That doesn't make sense. It was like thinking the German Church would be fine again because there was a German Pope.

Also is Mass attendance in Argentina and especially in the Pope's diocese there good or bad? Was he able to keep the Church together there? And finally, let's say in America and Canada and Europe and wherever the Church is in bad shape, all the people are going to care now and suddenly come back because there's a Latin American Pope? I hope it works out though. I really hope he fixes the Church.

trappings said...

Isn't Pope Johx XXIII the Blessed hailed as a humble man? Didn't he maintain all the "trappings" of the papacy and defend the TLM? I thought that Pope Benedict XVI was hailed as a humble man? Didn't he bring back at least some of the "trappings" of the papacy? Hmmm. I guess a pope can be surrounded by papal "trappings" and still be a humble man.

prayforhim said...

The Pope must've grow up with the TLM until at least his mid-20s. Surely he wasn't hostile to the Holy Mass during the first 25+ years of his life. I'm sure he loved the Mass growing up and into manhood, into the mid-1960s. So let's pray that he recovers his love for the TLM he grew up with. He could have a change of mind and heart.

Pulex said...

Here is an article by J. Allen, written on March 3. He esteemed Beroglio as a rather conservative cardinal:

http://ncronline.org/node/46476

Benedict Carter said...

I woke up today calmer than last evening. But I still carry a sense of foreboding. Rorate Caeli and its various contacts are very often right so I fear for the worst.

Well: the Lord has permitted us to live in this time of revolution and collapse. The only question is, what are we going to do about it?

Despair and a retreat back into the ghetto are not the actions of those who trust in Our Lord Jesus Christ. It took a couple of hundred years for the Church to get rid of the Arian heresy, and the protestant heresy is still with us, albeit now more and more decayed into paganity.

Combatting this Modernist heresy, being the most pernicious of all of them, is our lot. So let's thank Our Lord for putting us here in this world at this time. He expects us to FIGHT for Him, not to give up!

Courage and, in prayer, forward!

itllbefine said...

Does Rorate have Vatican press credentials? Looks like the Pope will have a press conference this Saturday. I hope Rorate will be there. And just read a newspaper story from a couple of years back. Then-Cardinal Bergoglio celebrated solemn Mass in Argentina at a monastery that promotes Latin and Gegorian chant.

Benedict Carter said...

We at the St. Martin Luther Institute of Advanced Ecumenical Heresy note with satisfaction the election of a new Pope so near to the profile we gave to the ectoplasm who materialised at our recent midnight seance.

We have many friends among the Society of Jesus of course, particularly in the USA and in Latin America, so we are pleased for them. We know that our mutual friends in FARC and the Shining Path liberation movement will be thrilled!

Benedict Carter said...

Damn, I've outed myself. My last post was of course from Enid Ecumaniac, I was just passing it along for her as she's busy.

Damask Rose said...

Benedict Carter at 8.37 and 8.48...

...how low of you.

Benedict Carter said...

Damask Rose:

Humour not your thing, I see. A po-faced puritan I will not be.

Jeremiah Methuselah said...

@Maria. Thank you for that link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwS9umpEkvs

Well, after the Pinocchio bit, I switched off, couldn’t take any more, just not my idea of the sacred sacrifice I’m afraid. If that actually was Cardinal Bergoglio …let’s just say that we have differing views on what is Holy Mass and what is not. But maybe, with the undoubted grace of God, he has changed or will change his ideas ? I am not changing mine. Period.

I’ll add something else, if I may. Why is it considered necessary for so many Catholic media to tell us our new Pope was against abortion and homosexuality, same sex “marriage” and so on, as if this is a wonderful thing ? Is that not the norm in a Prince of the Church ? Am I stupid, naïve, stuck rigidly in the ideas of the past or what ?

Rather tell us those who are not against the above - AND tell us of all those priests and bishops who remain silent as the grave on contraception, clearly practised by the vast majority of married Catholics, thus leading millions astray. The first duty of the Church is the saving of souls.

Each Sunday I have the privilege of attending the Old Mass, you know the one, with all that Latin stuff - and a clown to be seen. Pinocchio would never even get his nose past the door. It is a true joy for me to see so many young families with four, five, six or seven children and counting. Most of them are young families. We can be sure of a source of future priests, as so many vocations originate in large families.

Praise the Lord God and may He illuminate and guide our Pope Francis.

Kathleen said...

QUOTE: trappings

Isn't Pope Johx XXIII the Blessed hailed as a humble man? Didn't he maintain all the "trappings" of the papacy and defend the TLM? I thought that Pope Benedict XVI was hailed as a humble man? Didn't he bring back at least some of the "trappings" of the papacy? Hmmm. I guess a pope can be surrounded by papal "trappings" and still be a humble man.


It is because of the abysmal upbringing of virtually everyone in this post hippie world.

It used to be that some things were understood. For instance...

Maintaining the dignity associated with an "office," be it Pope, ruler, first lady, etc is NOT about the ego of the person maintaining said dignity.

It is to show respect to those below that office and to fail to do so shows disrespect towards the poor pandered to "little people" by said office holder.

Further, and most importantly, the vestments and trappings of the clergy are to show respect for Almighty God and His Holy Church.

And again, the failure to do so shows disrespect.

St. Jean-Baptiste-Marie Vianney understood this. It is why his cassocks were threadbare but his vestments the finest.

Dr. Timothy J. Williams said...

If I show up in class wearing blue jeans, a sweatshirt and sandals, am I exhibiting my humility? Or am I just showing a lack of respect for those who should look up to my office, because it is GOOD for them to look up to my office, because it facilitates their learning, their growth? If I am a hippie professor, do I not just exhibit my lack of respect for those I am supposed to be teaching?

I am not saying that the Pope is showing this level of disrespect in his balcony appearance. But in the liturgies he celebrated as bishop... the answer is obvious. And the irony is that these "youth liturgies" (with Pinocchio, no less!) in addition to being offensive to God, are quite offensive to young people! Oh, they go, and giggle, and applaud. But they don't go back. They know when they are being talked "down to." And when adults do not take something seriously themselves, youths disregard it completely.

Why is it that despite 50 years of steady decline and abandonment of the Faith by Catholics raised on "youth masses" that those in authority cannot see farther than the end of their noses? Pinocchio indeed!

LeonG said...

Pope Francis I deserves praise and support for his courageous stand against the atheistic and anti-Catholic Argentinian government.

I hope we will have a papacy that speaks with more clarity and simplicity of expression. I hope too he will see and understand why we need a restoration of liturgical unity through The Latin Mass as this will do more than anything else long term.

brandsma said...

My hope is that he will make one of his priorities the abolition of Communion in the hand.

Jeanie said...

3 things: Pope Francis is the correct name, NOT Pope Francis I. In order to have a 'first', there needs to be a 'second'. NBC news commentator said that Latin America has been waiting '20' centuries for a pope from this region. Really? As a history teacher for 29+ years I can guarantee you that there were NO Catholics in this area 20 centuries ago. Lastly, Pope Francis is not the first non-European to be elected. He IS the first non-European elected in 1000 years however.
I am new here and have read most of the comments preceding mine, very interesting. I am holding out hope for the future for our beautiful Roman Catholicism. I do throw out this comment: I wonder how different our recent past would have been without John Paul II and Benedict...I wonder how we Catholics would have fared had not my relative, John Paul I, been murdered 33 days into his Papacy...