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New Bishop for Savona-Noli

The Holy Father has also named today the new Bishop of Savona-Noli - the small diocese in Liguria, Italy, whose Diocesan Administrator has "forbidden" all Traditional Masses since Monday.

The new Bishop will be Monsignor Vittorio Lupi, up to now Vicar General in the Diocese of Ventimiglia-San Remo. May he be obedient to the letter and to the mens of the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum...

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

I personally know mons. Lupi, till now our Vicar General, with whom we discussed the implementation of the motu proprio in San Remo.
He is not at all "trad-friendly", but he is kind, intelligent and an excellent priest. And I suspect he had recently some "indications" from Rome.
Therefore I'm quite sure the Savona's ban will soon be lifted.

Anonymous said...

Why put Bishops in who are unfriendly to the Tridentine Latin Mass.
Isn't this just asking for trouble?
Duh?

cosmos said...

There are just not a lot of traditional-friendly alternatives among the priests who get put forward through the regular channels of the hierarchy, and it would be extremely difficult and unseemly for the Pope to just go diocese to diocese and ask his local trusted "favorite" (if one even exists!) to pick a good successor without consultation from everyone the existing hierarchy. It is simply going to take a long time to dig out of this hole, and the progress will be incremental.

Anonymous said...

What a mess! Thank God for Pope Benedict XVI for a least trying, after 26 1/2 years of his predecessor doing nothing at all!
And some people want to make him, AND PAUL VI (of all people!!!) saints?

LOL!!! : )

Gimignano said...

Please restrain yourself, and emulate the Saints: you are speaking about the Vicar of Christ, to whom honor is due at ALL times.

Jeff said...

Anonymous:

Paul VI and John Paul II ARE saints...

...which you will soon see.

Anonymous said...

Gimignano:
But what if the Vicar has proven himself unworthy of the title? Then does not that truth in which St. Paul tells us Charity rejoices constrain us to speak out? Admittedly, one is not under a constraint to reveal every truth one knows, since that might also contradict charity. But given the media hype about the last Pope and the drive to canonize him, are we not constrained to speak the truth as we see it? Many of us suffered spiritually and in the flesh because of his apparent derilection of duty. The present Pope has testified that he too suffered from the abuses in the liturgy tolerated under the last pontificate. Let's not mention the thousands of children.

Honour indeed is due to the papal office. But don't you think you are going a bit far to criticize "Anonymous" for simply stating the truth?

Jeff:
Your cult of the papal office is born of an extreme sentimentality that would be better expressed by executing Chopin Nocturnes. You have no evidence for such claims. This is especially true of Paul VI. The evidence AGAINST his canonization was published in a widely disseminated biography which stopped JP II from his efforts to canonize him. I hear that the present Pope even weighed in against the move to canonize Paul VI. This is hearsay but worth tracking down.

Anonymous said...

cosmos,

I don't understand why the Pope could or should not bypass the regular channels. It is unseemly to just ratify the best of a grop of poor candidates. As the Pope is the Vicar of Christ on Earth, he is called to do the right thing, not what is not difficult. I admire B16, but he needs to be willing to break out of the regular protocols to accomplish having the best. I don't mean just trad friendly, but another Burke not another Levada.

gimignano said...

I agree, anonymous. By "Saints," I was not referring specifically to these Popes, but such figures as St Catherine who who would not approve of such a condescending tone when speaking of the Vicars of Christ, which is an unfortunate symptom of most Traditional communities. I agree about your analyses of the Popes, and have read about the cases you mention to Jeff.

Ottaviani said...

This is especially true of Paul VI. The evidence AGAINST his canonization was published in a widely disseminated biography which stopped JP II from his efforts to canonize him. I hear that the present Pope even weighed in against the move to canonize Paul VI. This is hearsay but worth tracking down.

Are you perhaps referring to Paolo Sesto Beato? by Dr. Luigi Villa. Makes interesting reading.