Rorate Caeli

Ranjith speaks: Episcopal "rebellion" going on;
"Bishops and Cardinals" must obey the Pope

From an interview granted by the Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith Patabendige, to Bruno Volpe, of the papal news website Petrus:

Your Excellency, how has Benedict XVI´s motu proprio which liberalized the Holy Mass according to the Tridentine Rite been received? Some, in the bosom of the Church itself, have turned their noses...

"There have been positive reactions and, it is useless to deny it, criticisms and opposition , even from theologians, liturgists, priests, Bishops, and even Cardinals. I frankly do not understand these rifts, and, why not [say it], rebellion towards the Pope. I invite all, particularly the Shepherds, to obey the Pope, who is the Successor of Peter. The Bishops, in particular, have sworn fidelity to the Pontiff: may they be coherent and faithful to their commitment."

In your opinion, what causes these displays against the Motu Proprio?

"You know that there have been, by some dioceses, even interpretative documents which inexplainably intend to limit the Pope's Motu Proprio. These actions mask behind them, on one hand, prejudices of an ideological kind and, on the other, pride, one of the gravest sins. I repeat: I invite all to obey the Pope. If the Holy father decided to promulgate the Motu Proprio, he had his reasons, which I fully share."

Benedict XVI´s decision to liberalize the Tridentine Rite seems as a just remedy to the so many liturgical abuses sadly registered after the Second Vatican Council with the 'Novus Ordo'...

"See, I do not wish to criticize the 'Novus Ordo'. But I laugh when I hear it said, even by friends, that in a [certain] parish, a priest is 'a Saint' due to his homily or to how he speaks. The Holy Mass is sacrifice, gift, mystery, independently of the celebrating priest. It is important, fundamental even, that the priest be put aside: the protagonist of the Mass is Christ. I do not understand, thus, the Eucharistic celebrations transformed in shows with dances, songs, and applause, as it frequently happens with the Novus Ordo."

Monsignor Patabendige, your Congregation has repeatedly denounced these liturgical abuses...

"True. There are so many documents, which have nonetheless painfully remained dead letter, [which] have ended up on dusty shelves or, even worse, in wastebaskets."

Another point: one often hears very long homilies...

"This also is an abuse. I am opposed to dances and applause in the middle of the Masses, which are not a circus or a stadium. As for the homilies, they must relate, as the Pope has underlined, exclusively to the catechetical aspect, avoiding sociologisms and useless chatter. For example, priests often veer towards politics because they have not prepared well the homily, which must, instead, be scrupulously studied. An excessively long homily is synonymous with a scarce preparation: the correct time for a sermon must be of 10 minutes, 15 at most. It must be acknowledged that the culminating moment of the celebration is the Eucharistic mystery, which does not mean downplaying the Liturgy of the Word, but clarifying how a correct liturgy must be applied."

Returning to the Motu Proprio: some criticize the use of Latin during Mass...

"The Tridentine Rite is part of the tradition of the Church. The Pope has dutifully explained the motives for his measure, an act of liberty and justice towards Traditionalists. As for Latin, I wish to underline that it has never been abolished and, what is more, it guarantees the universality of the Church. But I repeat: I invite priests, Bishops, and Cardinals to obedience, setting aside every kind of pride and prejudice."

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

Have you ever been in a pillow fight when a feather pillow ripped and all the downy feathers went every where. The Bishops are like these feathers after Vatican II. How are we ever to gather all these feathers back into the pillow again.

Anonymous said...

Ranjith for Pope! (next time)

Belloc said...

Let's give this man a red hat...and soon!

Christian said...

Ah Ranjith. You've gotta love him! :-D

Jacob said...

I agree with anonymous #2 and belloc.

The archbishop seems to be far more of a collaborator with the Pope than say Cardinal Levada. Where are the comments of His Eminence in support of his master during this time?

Tom S. said...

THIS is the MAN!!!!

Talk about coming right to the point. I'm praying that there is more coming, beyond these refreshingly strong, clear words.

And I am right there with anonymous #2 and belloc.

Anonymous said...

"You know that there have been, by some dioceses, even interpretative documents which inexplainably intend to limit the Pope's Motu Proprio. These actions mask behind them, on one hand, prejudices of an ideological kind and, on the other, pride, one of the gravest sins."

Trautman just wet himself

Anonymous said...

"See, I do not wish to criticize the 'Novus Ordo'.

Coward!

Kopp said...

Archbishop Ranjith is saying all the right things here. Combine his statement here,

"Episcopal "rebellion" going on;
"Bishops and Cardinals" must obey the Pope"


with his prior comment,

"It is not up to us, who wear ecclesiastical purple and red, to draw this into question, to be disobedient and make the motu proprio void by our own little, tittle rules. Even not if they were made by a bishops conference. Even bishops do not have this right. What the Holy Fathers says, has to be obeyed in the Church. If we do not follow this principle, we will allow ourselves to be used as instruments of the devil, and nobody else."

and add in Cardinal Hoyos' recent comments,

""priests can decide, without permission from the Holy See or the bishop, to celebrate the Mass in the ancient rite. And this holds true for all priests…It is not therefore necessary to ask any other permission...The Code of Canon Law says who must give permission to say Mass and it is not the bishop: The bishop gives the "celebret," the power to be able to celebrate [i.e., both the old and new forms of the rite], but when a priest has this power, it is the parish priest and the chaplain who must grant the altar to celebrate. If anyone impedes him, it is up to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, in the name of the Holy Father, to take measures until this right is respected…The Pope does not impose the obligation; the Pope does impose offering this possibility where the faithful request it. If there is a conflict, the authority of the bishop must intervene to avoid it, but without canceling the right that the Pope gave to the entire Church.”

and hopefully, the hugely anticipated PCED document clarifying Summorum Pontificum will echo and reinforce Ranjith and Hoyos and make the bishops' onerous "guidelines" null and void.

Anonymous said...

The Bishops are ignoring the Pope. Do you believe that now they will pay attention to AB Ranjith? Dream on. The Church is going through a very grave trial and only with the help of God can it overcome.

Anonymous said...

I have a feeling, since He said it at least 3x, that the invitation to Bishops and priests, liturgists and Cardinals opposed to the Moto Proprio to "obey the Pope" with regards to the complete freedom for the Tridentine Latin Mass is indeed an invitation by Archbishop Ranjith...but also a warning. He isn't fooling around. I believe that Pope Benedict XVI who, underneath his kindly exterior...actually wants this accomplished and will follow up with action against those who either openly oppose the Tridentine Latin Mass, or do so in a more subtle fashion (Cardinals, Bishops, priests, liturgists, nuns etc.)
Archbishop Ranjith is much more forceful than Cardinal Arinze, who I don't believe has ever said ANYTHING positive about the Tridentine Latin Mass...and indeed was an instigator of rebellion against the Motu Proprio in the Vatican. Arinze was 75 last week. He had to submit his resignation to the Pope. His term is up. His performance was as mediocre as Cardinal Levada's in his department.
I hope that Archbishop Ranjith succeeds Arinze within a few weeks. Too bad He misses out on the red hat this time. Maybe in another year.

Clemens Maria said...

Our Lady of Akita said in 1973 that as part of the imminent great chastisement ('great' is my word based on the fact that She also revealed that the chastisement would be more terrible than the Flood) that bishops would oppose bishops. Some might say, 'big deal, bishops have always opposed bishops', but I don't recall it being so open and at such high levels. Pope Benedict XVI has said in the past that Akita was the same message as Fatima. Even if there is no chastisement imminent, it behooves us to prepare ourselves spiritually for great tribulation. It may be refreshing that someone of such high authority is finally calling reprobates to task but it can never be considered a good sign because it indicates that there is a tremendous battle being waged within the Church. It would be foolish to think that just because you are intelligent and knowledgeable about the Catholic faith that you cannot be a victim of the inevitable confusion and destruction.

Our Lady asked us to pray the Rosary daily as a defense against this type of spiritual warfare. It wouldn't be too hard to make an argument against the idea that there is a chastisement coming soon but how can you deny the efficacy of the daily Rosary? It would be better to go with 15-20 minutes less sleep than to go a day without the Rosary.

Fr. Pérez y Robles, S.T.D. said...

Thank God for Ranjith and for His Holiness for having appointed him in the first place. May all his appointmens be as sound and orthodox. Deo gratias!

Fr. Pérez y Robles, S.T.D.

Kopp said...

I like Damian Thompson’s spin on this story:

Rome’s fury: Motu Proprio mutiny 'sinful'
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/november07/romes-fury.htm

Posted by Damian Thompson on 05 Nov 2007 at 16:27

telegraph.co.uk

The Vatican has vented its fury at the mutinous response of liberal bishops and cardinals to the Pope’s liberation of the traditional Latin Mass.

Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith, Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, has accused dioceses that try to sabotage the Pope’s Motu Proprio of “prejudices of an ideological kind” and “pride, one of the gravest sins”. Well said!

The archbishop does not name the prelates he considers to be in a state of “rebellion towards the Pope”, as he puts it. But one thing is clear: overall, the reaction of the Bishops of England and Wales to Pope Benedict’s ruling has been truly dismal.

This is just guesswork, but I wouldn’t surprised if Archbishop’s Ranjith’s remarks were directed partly at the Diocese of Portsmouth, whose “director of liturgy” Paul Inwood produced an appalling set of guidelines that tried to ban Catholics for asking for the traditional Mass.

Two other names that come to mind are Bishop Kieran Conry of Arundel and Brighton and Bishop Arthur Roche of Leeds, both of whom have written letters contrary to the letter and spirit of the Pope’s wishes.

Hat-tip to Petavius and the Rorate Caeli blog for alerting me to the archbishop’s interview, given to Bruno Volpe of the papal news website Petrus. Here are the money quotes:

“There have been positive reactions [to the Motu Proprio] and, it is useless to deny it, criticisms and opposition, even from theologians, liturgists, priests, bishops, and even cardinals. I frankly do not understand these rifts, and, why not [say it], rebellion towards the Pope. I invite all, particularly the Shepherds, to obey the Pope, who is the Successor of Peter. The Bishops, in particular, have sworn fidelity to the Pontiff: may they be coherent and faithful to their commitment…

“You know that there have been, by some dioceses, even interpretative documents which inexplicably intend to limit the Pope’s Motu Proprio. These actions mask behind them, on one hand, prejudices of an ideological kind and, on the other, pride, one of the gravest sins. I repeat: I call all to obey the Pope. If the Holy Father decided to promulgate the Motu Proprio, he had his reasons, which I fully share.”

Such ferocious comments by a senior figure in the Curia indicate that Rome is not prepared to stand by and watch liberal bishops ignore Pope Benedict’s decision to restore the former Tridentine Rite to full parity with the Mass of Paul VI.

Archbishop Ranjith, 58, a Dutch-born Sri Lankan, is a man after the Pope’s heart: he loves the traditional Mass and celebrates it in his private chapel. He speaks with a forthright eloquence rarely encountered among English bishops. Here is a taste of his style, from a recent address in the Netherlands:

“The Church cannot be the arena of confusion, philosophical or moral relativism, sophistry and casuistic dilution of the revealed truth which is the foundation of its Credo, the Word of God as revealed in the Sacred Scriptures and the Tradition of the Church and interpreted by the official magisterium of the Church and open dissent or public debate even in the name of the freedom of theological research.

“My mind goes back to the story of the construction or shall we say the attempted construction of the Tower of Babel. Its constructors felt confident that they could scale the heavens with their own resources and strength without God. Hasn’t that same spirit re-appeared perhaps in a more sophisticated form in the world and the Church today?”

Archbishop Ranjith is no fool: he is appalled by the stroppy, work-to-rule mentality of bishops who think they are popes in their own dioceses and have no intention of implementing a ruling they don’t like.

As for the identity of the unnamed cardinals, your guess is as good as mine. Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor of Westminster hasn’t said anything that could get him into trouble – but neither has he manifested the slightest enthusiasm for – or interest in – this crucial aspect of Benedict’s reform of the liturgy. He’s keeping his head down, as usual.

Posted by Damian Thompson on 05 Nov 2007 at 16:27

David L Alexander said...

"Coward!"

No, prudence! Not to mention discretion, as in "the better part of valor." And to think his strong admonition, like a breath of fresh air, is not enough for some of us.

Michael said...

I am in St. Petersburg, Fl and Tridentine Rite has been celebrated in the Cathedral Chapel for a number of years on Sundays at 12:20PM. The Rector of the Cathedral refused the Extraordinary Rite for All Saints Day in the Chapel, which would have interferred with nothing. Father's homily this past Sunday included (paraphrased)'I
have done what I can for you. It is up to you to request via petition and letters your rights in accordance with the Motu Propio.' His concerns include all sacraments.

Nancy said...

Thankfully, most comments seem to understand the seriousness of our current extreme spiritual danger and speak in charity to pray pray and watch unceasingly. Use these sufferings for our daily martyrdom to save other souls who are moreso blinded and never forget we each must fear holy justice.
Let not the great evils we face distract us from the great evils we still personally must confess and repent. Do not let anyone deceive your faith! Allow yourself daily solitude for examination of conscience and listening to interior guidance. Let us battle our own evils, not each other! Let Christ carry the day and give Glory to Him and let us follow Him not lead ourselves! God Bless Us and let our private sufferings join with the 1-3rd century martyrs. lamb nancy

LeonG said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
LeonG said...

"...it is useless to deny it, criticisms and opposition , even from theologians, liturgists, priests, Bishops, and even Cardinals."

It certainly is useless to deny it since it is the most often the same people who have been accusing traditional organisations and other independent Traditional Catholic priests of "disobeying" the pope and who have condemned the Masses and Holy Orders of the same traditional Roman Catholics as being invalid in some manner. They unjustly cry ‘excommunication’ and ‘schism’ but do not apprehend the moat, in many cases, in their own eyes. Finally, there is one courageous & confident enough to cry foul.

In SE Asia there are bishops who completely ignore or have sidelined the SP and who continue to persecute any Catholic who wishes to attend The Latin Mass celebrated by traditional priests. And their reasons - as mentioned above - disobeying the pope, excommunication and schism. They will not lift a finger to implement the SP.

We also find many "disobedient" clerics and bishops propagating through silent complicity or actual encouragement further resistance toward Catholic teachings on abortion, artificial methods of birth control and the sin of sodomy. Their advocacy of the primacy of conscience has provided a convenient escape clause for resisting whichever papal directive they prefer.

When Archbishop Ranjith refers to"...prejudices of an ideological kind and…… pride" and one studies deeply the "synthesis of all heresies" then the heresy of modernism with all its ideologies is never very far away. The liberal sector of the church establishment has effectively invented its own version of the faith and its graveyard is replete with Kungites, Rahnerians and Chardinistes. Such un-catholic notions have entered into episcopal & clerical thinking on all matters both liturgical and doctrinal. In their sectarian dislike for tradition they have sought to legislate against it but the tide is slowly turning against them as they raise their besmirched hands in horror at this supposed transgression against their indefinable “spirit of the councils”.

Long ago it was possible to see that once Rome woke up to the fact of mass disobedience amongst its liberal ranks then The Latin Mass would become a focal point of realignment for two distinct ecclesiastical tendencies. Some Catholics do not want to recognise this but it is so. We are now at that juncture and we need Archbishops of the fibre of Ranjith to exorcise the demon of hatred that exists in the hearts of liberals towards the necessary and vital norms and values propagated by tradition and due respect for the authoritative interpretation of Holy Scripture.

"... I do not understand, thus, the Eucharistic celebrations transformed in shows with dances, songs, and applause, as it frequently happens with the Novus Ordo." Dear Archbishop Ranjith, neither do many Roman Catholics. These are and always have been illicit un-Catholic liturgical behaviours and it is time they were removed once and for all from our beloved liturgy. The Latin Mass is the perfect liturgical instrument for so doing. It is clear and unambiguous that you know this yourself.

As for the documents that have been ignored and been thrown away, it is imperative that the SP is respected as the will of the Holy Father and the correct medicine for restoring The Roman Catholic Faith not only in The Church but in the world. It is our most powerful force for evangelisation. And that as an act of pure justice and liberty on his part, we may once more glory in The Mass that can only be described as transporting our being to the very gates of Heaven.

In conclusion, the archbishop's declaration on Latin and The Mass it supports quite rightly emphasises one of the fundamentally crucial principles of universality by which man may recognise the reliability and validity of the claim that Our Blessed Lord established

…unam, sanctam, catholicam et apostolicam ecclesiam....

Charles A. said...

Ranjith sounds like a new Pius X. A red hat subito and papabile for the next conclave!

Anonymous said...

A Vatican figure who attacks Bishops and Cardinals as recklessly, and in such outrageous language, as Abp Ranjith does would seem to have blotted his copybook as regards any further promotion.

Indeed, the fact that he has been promoted to a position obviously beyond his social and intellectual capacities casts doubt on Benedict XVI's judgment.

Miguel de Servet said...

The real problem, that Archbishop Ranjith has not even touched upon, is that the Motu Proprio risks to create an explosive situation of contrast between the partisans of the Novus Ordo, and the partisans of the Old Tridentine Mass.

Not so much because of the Latin, which has always been an excuse, but because many Traditionalists don't even consider the Novus Ordo a valid Mass.

Nothing in the Motu Proprio seems to indicate that Pope Benedict XVI has made provisions for this risk, but I cannot believe that he is not aware of it.

Irulats said...

To Anonymous re: Vatican figure:

Abp. Ranjith has attacked no-one. He speaks only of 'actions'. Satan is most outraged by his comments. Let us all pray to the Holy Spirit, to choose those, whom the Father wills, to lead Christ's Church.

Athelstane said...

Dear Anonymous:

A Vatican figure who attacks Bishops and Cardinals as recklessly, and in such outrageous language, as Abp Ranjith does would seem to have blotted his copybook as regards any further promotion.

I submit that what is outrageous is the conduct of various prelates in refusing to recognize the the new rights granted to the faithful and priests by the Holy Father's motu proprio. Ranjith is calling a spade a spade.

As to whether Ranjith's promotion copybook is blotted - well, time will tell, won't it?

Anonymous said...

Jesus came with a sword, not a pen. VatII is leaven laden heavy by scribes and pharisees. Sacred Tradition victors over such as these. Here the words of St. Thomas Aquinas,and St. Robert Bellarmine-RESIST, RESIST, RESIST!

David L Alexander said...

"Jesus came with a sword, not a pen."

Hey, wait a minute, I remember him coming with a whip of cords and knocking tables over.

Michael said...

Does the Extraordinary Rite community have the stomach to step out and publicly write and petition for its rights under the Motu Propio inside the diocese? Will Papa Benedetto possibly succeed without the assistance of the man/woman in the pew publicly expressing this sense of the faithful? Or will it all be talk, complain, and talk?

Anonymous said...

This is all so pathetic. Benedict promotes his own opposition by the unceasing prior consultations with the Bishops who opposed the motu proprio. Post-concilicar collegiality is the theological fulcrum by which Rome provides the bishops with the leverage to defy it. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
All you need to know about how serious Rome is about governing is to consider what the Wisconsin and Connecticut bishops have done by agreeing to distribute abortifacients in Catholic hospitals. You think that Rome is going to discipline the bishops over defying it over liturgical issues when they won't even step in to stop abortions permitted by the bishops in their hospitals?

Wake up and smell the coffeee folks.

gallicman1 said...

Ranjith speaks: Episcopal "rebellion" going on; "Bishops and Cardinals" must obey the Pope

Why should the Bishops obey?

Benedict XVI cannot command anyone. Based on the Constitution of the Catholic Church and Collegiality, Benedict can only suggest not command. Each diocesan Bishop has the right to apply recommendations within the frame work of their mission and goals.

This is why Benedict concludes his Motu Proprio in this manner:

“In conclusion, dear Brothers, I very much wish to stress that these new norms do not in any way lessen your own authority and responsibility, either for the liturgy or for the pastoral care of your faithful. Each Bishop, in fact, is the moderator of the liturgy in his own Diocese”

Again Benedict cannot command. You local Bishop does not have to give you the True Mass if he does not want to.

David L Alexander said...

"Based on the Constitution of the Catholic Church and Collegiality, Benedict can only suggest not command."

I don't suppose you would care to provide a citation of this document.

Michael said...

Re: false claims
As many of you know Paul VI inserted a Motu Propio into the Vatican II documents that left no doubt that the Pope was the authority in every diocese in the world when and if he saw fit to exercise that power. [I read it in the Flanigan version of Vatican II.]
Malachi Martin told the story that one of the Cardinals he assisted overheard Kung and D.... complaining about the documents that did not go far enough. In response to "we have to leave the Church", Kung said: 'No, we can't leave. Not this time. That was the mistake of the Reformation. We must change the Church from within.'
Cardinal Baer was flabergasted and reported this to the Holy Father. Papa Benedetto restated this reality of Supreme Pontiff in recent months if my memory serves me right.

Charles Stewart said...

Just think if there had been more 'disobedience' the Church might never have had to suffer all the reforms to the liturgy in the first instance: we might still have the ancient Roman psalter; the octaves, vigils, Holy Week etc. If bishops had had the guts to stand up against successive popes in the past we would not be in the liturgical mess we are in today.

JEDY said...

DIDN'T I READ ONCE THAT THE BLESSED MOTHER SAID IN AN APPROVED APPRITION THAT BISHOP WOULD BE AGAINST BISHOP AND CARDINAL AGAINST CARDINAL? I BELIEVE IT WAS ATIKA JAPAN

Anonymous said...

gallicman1; you are approaching this from the wrong direction. Pope Benedict has pointed out that every priest has a right to use the 1962 Missal. No-one can withhold this right. The problem is that some Bishops are inventing
norms in an attempt to interfere with this right. This is illegal.
The Pope will therefore tell these Bishops to cease and desist.

David L Alexander said...

"The problem is that some Bishops are inventing norms in an attempt to interfere with this right. This is illegal. The Pope will therefore tell these Bishops to cease and desist."

It would appear that, through the appropriate dicastery, he already has.

gallicman1 said...

anonymous:

you may be right. Maybe Benedict realizes the grave error that has been perpetuated on the faithful for almost 40 years and has given permission directly to the common priest to exercise his judgment and give us the true Mass.

Or he may be trying to break the back of the independent priests who have sacrificed everything to offer us the Mass by fractionalizing their congregations and luring them into the Novus Ordo Temples.

Some thoughts:

On November 21st, 1964, Vatican II council produced a Constitution outlining the role of the Pope, Bishops and laity within the frame work of the Church. This constitution, written by man, outlined how collegiality is used in the relationship the Bishops has with his Pope. In this year the Catholic Church join other international organizations and governments in securing a man made constitution.

Catholics, the following is an excerpt from Lumen Gentium establishing collegiality:

Lumen Gentium 23:
“This collegial union is apparent also m the mutual relations of the individual bishops with particular churches and with the universal Church. The Roman Pontiff, as the successor of Peter, is the perpetual and visible principle and foundation of unity of both the bishops and of the faithful.(30*) The individual bishops, however, are the visible principle and foundation of unity in their particular churches, (31*) fashioned after the model of the universal Church, in and from which churches comes into being the one and only Catholic Church.(32*) For this reason the individual bishops represent each his own church, but all of them together and with the Pope represent the entire Church in the bond of peace, love and unity.
The individual bishops, who are placed in charge of particular churches, exercise their pastoral government over the portion of the People of God committed to their care, and not over other churches nor over the universal Church. But each of them, as a member of the episcopal college and legitimate successor of the apostles, is obliged by Christ's institution and command to be solicitous for the whole Church,(33*) and this solicitude, though it is not exercised by an act of jurisdiction, contributes greatly to the advantage of the universal Church. For it is the duty of all bishops to promote and to safeguard the unity of faith and the discipline common to the whole Church, to instruct the faithful to love for the whole mystical body of Christ, especially for its poor and sorrowing members and for those who are suffering persecution for justice's sake,(160) and finally to promote every activity that is of interest to the whole Church, especially that the faith may take increase and the light of full truth appear to all men. And this also is important, that by governing well their own church as a portion of the universal Church, they themselves are effectively contributing to the welfare of the whole Mystical Body, which is also the body of the churches.(34*)

Granted Lumen Gentium does declare the Vicar of Christ as the head of the Church but introduces the concept of Collegiality with obligates the Pontiff to seek consensus through collegiality.

Certainly if the Novus Ordo Pope could act solely he would not be so conciliatory asking that the Bishops reinstall the True Mass. If he was the Supreme Pontiff that Pius X or Pius V were he would have commanded the to immediately cease and desist inn using the Novus Ordo Missae.

Due to the constraints put on the Papacy by the Church’s Man invented Constitution “Lumen Gentium” Church government has subordinated and delineated the Popes power according to man made constitutional rules.

Michael said...

Gallican1,
Previous entry noted the 'no doubt' Motu Propio inserted by Paul VI that left no doubt that the Supreme Pontiff was the highest authority in each diocese in the Roman Catholic Church. That Motu Propio was affirmed by the Body of Bishops when they voted on Vatican II. Note also the translation of Summorum Pontificum is "Of The Supreme Pontiffs". There is no doubt in Papa Benedetto's mind. Vatican II did not change Vatican I dogma.

Anonymous said...

Tell those queens who can't cope to get out of the kitchen!!!

Easter Dates said...

If you are interested as an individual to take a step towards Christian Unity you can sign the petition to unite the dates of Easter at www.onedate.org