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Neocatechumenal Way statutes
definitively approved by the Pope?

ACI Prensa, the Spanish version of the Catholic News Agency, reports that Pope Benedict definitively approved the Statutes of the Neocatechumental Way, placing his signature on the final text yesterday.

[Update - May 25, 2008: Gianluca Barilla informs today in his papal news website Petrus that "The Holy Father, Benedict XVI, has in fact decided to approve the Statutes of the Way only 'ad experimentum', that is, temporarily and not in a definitive way, until 2015: it will be then that it will be decided if one of the most controversial and studied movements in the history of the Catholic laity will be officially recognized." Barilla adds that the Pope made his decision "after having read with attention a dossier of 80 pages and listened carefully to the opinions of the Congregations for the Laity and for the Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments ... , since the Liturgy has not yet been adapted to the official one and the catecheses are in need of ulterior corrections, not being in full conformity with the Magisterium of the Church."]

The statutes had been approved "ad experimentum", for a period of five years, on June 29, 2002.

The changes which may have been introduced in the statutes regarding the uncommon liturgical practices of "The way", following the recommendations of the Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship (December 1, 2005), are still unclear.

For instance, has the custom of "los kikos" (as they often called in Spanish in a reference to their founder, Kiko Argüello) of receiving Communion while remaining seated been phased out after two years, as the Congregation determined in 2005?

5. On the manner of receiving Holy Communion, a period of transition (not exceeding two years) is granted to the Neocatechumenal Way to pass from the widespread manner of receiving Holy Communion in its communities (seated, with a cloth-covered table placed at the center of the church instead of the dedicated altar in the sanctuary) to the normal way in which the entire Church receives Holy Communion. This means that the Neocatechumenal Way must begin to adopt the manner of distributing the Body and Blood of Christ that is provided in the liturgical books.
Of course not: who cares about obeying Rome in "The way", anyway? On April 24, less than a month ago, in the Redemptoris Mater seminary in Namur, Belgium (one of a large number of seminaries of the same name run by the Neocatechumenal Way around the world), this is how Communion was distributed: as always, a single pancake-sized host is consecrated and then broken into many pieces, and distributed to the sitting congregation - 2 years, 4 months, and 23 days after the two-year phase-out deadline given by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

What sad news. But, to be honest, I see no other way out. The Pope has to makea decision sometime and the Neocats are just too massive to say no. The movement should have been crushed before it became its own church within the Church.

Anonymous said...

These people are Protestants in all but name.
This is the way Presbyterians and other Protestant groups (not Churches) celebrate a Communion service.
They should not be approved. They are not Catholic.

Anonymous said...

When will Pope Benedict order back the communion rails?

Eric said...

This discussion appears to diminish the sort of papal approval the Legion of Christ has told its followers accompanies the approval of a congregation's statutes. There is a big difference between "You are awesome and everything you do is perfect!" and "Well, I suppose we have to keep moving this process forward. Let's approve the statutes and continue to try to draw this group into the heart of the Church."

Anonymous said...

It's hard to convince those in the Neocatechumenal Way to come over to Tradition when authority confirms that they are just fine where they are.

Anonymous said...

Dan Hunter says:

There is NO WAY that the Church would permit this kind of group!

Deo Gratias.

Anonymous said...

Vatican: Receiving Eucharist kneeling not permanent change...

http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19782

Anonymous said...

When their founder Kiko (whatever his last name is), passes to his eternal reward (?), this group will fade out quickly.
This is a cult, not a "New movement" As such, it should never have been approved.
Alittle housecleaning is in order here. Sweep out of the Vatican all the Cardinals and Bishops etc. who support this group and have pushed for its final approval.

Anonymous said...

What, officially, does approval of these Statutes mean? What kind of standing does this group have now in the church? I'm assuming that approval is not the same as an endorsement.

Anonymous said...

Peter has succumed to the wolves on this one. Which of course does not mean that he can not do better next time.

Anonymous said...

This group are "heretics". I have studied with them and they experiment with "Jesus"...looking for a high in the same way that people in the 1960's experimented with sex, drugs and rock and roll.
These are not formed by the Church but use it to form their own subculture. They will not bend to the Church because they are a sect.

LeonG said...

'The Pope has to make a decision sometime and the Neocats are just too massive to say no.'

Excuse me but this is not a valid reason - God's strength does not lie in numbers as Holy Scripture tells us. The NeoCats, about whom I know enough to fill a well-sized volume, are the direct result of disillusionment with post-conciliar neomodernist liturgical and pastoral policies. They are a law unto themselves. They gained immense resolve under Pope John Paul II (RIP) who gave them his blessing without really knowing enough about them. They will resist The Vatican to the face in order to follow the subtle dictates of their guru Arguello.

To cave in to this movement, just as The Vatican will to the un-Catholic emotion-filled protestant charismatic cult, is tantamount to admitting there will never again be true unity in the church again.

"There is NO WAY that the Church would permit this kind of group!"

Indeed it will, just watch this space. Rome is trying to "unite" all its "communities" [sects and cults] under one catholic banner. This is why it is trying to harness the traditional church as well. This is the ultimate neomodernising tendency writ large. This has wider implications for protestant & orthodox groups. For example, in Amiens Cathedral the bishop allows both Anglicans and Orthodox groups to say their services. This is done with the complicity of the Cardinal Archbishop Vingt Trois of Paris. This happens elsewhere. However, they do everything to block The Latin Mass of All Times in the same places.

This is the "new synthesis" and part of the "living tradition" at work within the framework of "continuity". Believe it, this is exactly what is transpiring. pretending that it is not the case will not forestall the reality.

As Our Blessed Lady of Akita has admonished all the hierarchy are at odds with each other and there is an overwhelming destructive undercurrent of "compromise". This is the conduit for liturgical pluralism and consequent devastation.

Anonymous said...

My suggestion:
Supress the Neocatechumenical Way, Foccolare, Community of the Beatitudes and the Community of jerusalem (both of whcih incorporate elements of Judaism into their liturgies), and many other "new movements" born from the "Spirit of Vatican II"

Carlos Antonio Palad said...

The approval of the Neocatechumenal Way -- if true -- should not be understood to mean that the Neocatechumenal liturgy and catechism (both of which remain under scrutiny) are already approved.

That having been said, an approval will, in the ultra-ultramontane atmosphere in the Church of our time, make it difficult (if not nearly impossible) for orthodox Catholic criticisms of the Neo-Catechumenal Way to get a hearing.

Anonymous said...

We, and all traditionalist Catholics should start a protest movement AGAINST the Neocatechumenal Way. Maybe only by sheer numbers of protests calling attention to their outrageous heresy and practices will the Vatican open its eyes and do what is right....supress them.

Flood the Vatican with protests against them!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"Flood the Vatican with protests against them!!"

That's just what they want you to do while souls die.

THE
PETITIONERS

They cock their pens
And write their pappy,
Spill their ink
On trees once sappy.

They do not fight
With soul and might,
They'd rather sit
And letter write,

Oh, these, our lords,
Approved patricians,
Who give their lives
For bloody petitions.

John said...

Crap. False news. Approval for seven years ad experimentum.

Anonymous said...

You guys, this story is kind of a false rumor.

Read this (in french) : [http://eucharistiemisericor.free.fr/index.php?page=2505083_neocatechumenal]

Basically, it says that the Neocat has had a prolonged ''ad experimentum'' approval, '''but''' that the final approval has been delayed until 2015.

Until 2015, the Vatican will have time to correct erroneous liturgy and defective theology that is found within the Neocat. I wish the Holy See the very best in its heresy hunt.

A Monette

Anonymous said...

NCW is a fading reality anyway, nothing I think we need to concern ourselves with.

Anonymous said...

I really don't understand why the Pope goes along with this. He has demonstarted that he can stand up to the bad guys, but it's so uneven. Why? If he never wrote another thing and only installed orthodox bishops until he died, we would be further ahead. That could be his only full-time job. Why didn't he veto the new Jesuit head? Why roll over for the Neocats? Who cares how big they are? B16 will be dead soon, why not just do the next right thing & be confident in the Holy Spirit. I really don't understand.

New Catholic said...

It is not false, but mostly true, as Tornielli himself reported yesterday.

Let us pray that the Holy Father may have a very long pontificate.

Tom S. said...

The whole thing just turns my stomach. Literally. I looked at that picture of their "communion" service and was overwhelmed by nausea.

The whole idea that this cult is too big to say no to is absurd. Just say" no, you are not part of us" and then let them either join the Church, or not. The whole thing, from what I can learn, is nothing but an attempt by a would-be Jim Jones or David Koresh to create their own personality cult, but this time shewdly using the umbrella of the Catholic Church as cover.

Adam said...

The Japanese bishops have for some reason cracked down on the movement and brought it to the Pope's attention.Japan closes Neo-Catechumenate seminary (scroll down page to story).

LeonG said...

Adam

Everything in this short report was also found in the diocese of Clifton, UK in the 1990s which led the Bishop there to close it down. The priests involved who I knew personally were the chief fomenters and they were obsessed with it. They managed affairs as though the future of the world depended on "The Way". The catechists from London were abrasive, obsessional and were actually highly critical of the official church and the NO liturgy and its Latin predecessor. Some of its members adopted patronising attitudes towards parishioners who did not want to be Neo-Cathecumenites. They sometimes employed familiar emotionally blackmailing strategies such as equating refusal of the Neo-C call to be catechised as tantamount to rejecting the call of Almighty God.

This is a thoroughly divisive and conflictual cult which has no intention of bowing the knee to Rome in real terms.

Dymphna said...

A few years ago I'd never heard of the NeoCats, now they seem to be in a lot of parishes. We even have a NeoCat seminary in DC. How did these people get so powerful?

michael said...

boy Dympha..myabe its um..whats that thing..um..the thingy u guys dont seem to have much of..umm..oh thats it..the holy spirit