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New FSSP mission in Brussels

The Archbishop of Mechlin-Brussels, André-Joseph Léonard, has named Father Hervé Hygonnet, FSSP, vicar of the Parish of Saints-Jean-et-Étienne-aux-Minimes. There are to be solemn Masses every Sunday, and low Masses on Fridays and Saturdays.

[Communiqué; tip: Le Salon Beige]

39 comments:

Anonymous said...

Go kick some liberal butt and save souls!

Anonymous said...

Good news, although it stops short of the personal parish that the FSSP had requested.

Just one important remark: Abbé Hygonnet does become vicar of Les Minimes, he becomes curate. The vicar is maverick Abbé Van der Biest, a local celebrity and a Citizen of Honour of the City of Brussels. I am afraid you mistook "vicaire" for "vicar", but "vicaire is "curate" and "curé" is "vicar".

Once more, Abbé Hygonnet becomes curate, not vicar.

lms rep said...

Great news.

Ager Flandriae said...

This is good news, although the Church in Vlaanderen hangs on the cross right now, with Archbishop Léonard being horribly slandered. Pray for the many good Catholics in Flanders' fields!

Anonymous said...

U hebt gelijk Ager Flandriae.

I quite agree, this is indeed good news for those of us who try to live our Catholic Faith in a Church where there are a great many problems, in a once great catholic country now secularised. However there is much to be thankful for too. Hopefully FSSP can do more in the future, with the archbishop's blessing. Pray for us in Vlaanderen ! We need traditional priests too.

Fr. A

SPQRatae said...

This is fantastic news. I live in Brussels and have been praying and longing for ++Léonard to make such a move for such a long time. I'd pretty much given up, as he obviously has to spend all his time clearing out the Augean Stables left by Danneels.
I am very, very grateful to him for this.

Bryan said...

I agree with Anonymous at 00.33.

The French term "vicaire" cannot mean the same as the English term "Vicar" as the English word refers here in England exclusively to an Anglican clergyman in a CofE Parish (and of course in the title of the Pope "Vicar of Christ".

However I note that Abbe Jacques Van der Biest is not called the "Cure" (Parish Priest) of the Parish but the "Administrateur" on the FSSP Press Release.

The Wiki page reveals that Abbe Van der Biest, who had been the Cure (Parish priest) resisted being put into retirement and and was allowed to stay in the Parish.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Van_der_Biest

Anonymous said...

It will take another 20 years to restore the Church...from the damage done by Vatican II, John Paul II, and the terms of such radical and totally non-Catholic "Primates" of Belgium the infamous Cardinals Suenens and Danneels.
Suenens was bad, but Daneels was 100x worse!!

Anonymous said...

Also we have to waint until the aging hippy radical liturgical lunatics and burnt out ecumenists have gone from the scene....10 more years.

Anonymous said...

Please pray that the FSSP are given the charge of a personal parish in Brussels as an alternative to the SPPX church for the faithful.

Anonymous said...

That's quite close to the FSSPX priory (Christ-Roi) and primary school, and not too far from the FSSPX church (St. Joseph) - although in the other direction, seen from the priory.

I wish that this will form a bulwark of tradition and true Catholicism!

Pax et bonum!

InfansMariae

Anonymous said...

"It will take another 20 years to restore the Church..."

More along the lines of 100 to 200 years.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous !5:53 asks, "Please pray that the FSSP are given the charge of a personal parish in Brussels as an alternative to the SPPX church for the faithful."

No, I will pray that it is given in addition to the FSSPX so that the Catholic faith can flourish in Belgium.

Anonymous said...

"Please pray that the FSSP are given the charge of a personal parish in Brussels as an alternative to the SPPX church for the faithful."

Why 'as an alternative'?

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous !5:53 asks, "Please pray that the FSSP are given the charge of a personal parish in Brussels as an alternative to the SPPX church for the faithful."

Why, what are the SSPX, lepers to be avoided at all costs! LOL.

I would rather follow the SSPX, than the priests and Bishops of Vatican II in the mold of Cardinal Daneels etc.

New Catholic said...

REALLY, anonymous and Bryan...

The Code of Canon Law is clear regarding the use of the word VICAR (Vicarius Paroecialis, Parochial Vicar, in the ordinary English translation), which is the best and most historic name for this particular position.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

While I applaud this, I also pray for F.S.S.P. apostolates on the *EVERY-SUNDAY* basis in the two dioceses in Flanders in which there are no regularised every-Sunday Masses. In one of these, the F.S.S.P. does indeed have an apostolate. I believe that one to be Bruges. In the other, Gand, there is nothing at all.

Bruges is famous--or infamous--for something else. Its last bishop was a notorious liberal and was also doing other bad things. But the other bad things are not as bad as being a liberal. Nothing is as bad as being a liberal.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

Really, there is no need for this S.S.P.X vs. F.S.S.P. rivalry in Brussels. Trust me on this as a keeper of statistics: there is more than enough room for both of them. The problem is not competition from the moribund Novus Disordo. The problem is competiton from Islam. In a decade or three, Brussels will be largely a Muslim city, replacing a bad Mass with a false prophet.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

Bryan:

Are you writing from the Excited States of America? The Code of Canons comes in two English translations, one for the U.S.A. and one for everyone else. We in Canada use the non-American one, naturally. Vicar in that translation is what the American version calls 'associate priest'; curate, what the U.S. version calls 'assistant priest'.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

Bryan:

I apologise for missing your first paragraph. You are writing from the U.K., so you should be using the same translation of the Code I have. Vicars forane are a separate group, of course, and are covered under Canons 553 ff. I believe that there is a canon on alternate use of the titles of vicar and curate but I forget where it is. Can anyone here point to it?

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

I agree with New Catholic on parochial vicars. Again, I don't know where the reference is in the Code, however.

Long ago, I delivered here some discourse on 'pastor' but I fear getting into that again. The older and better usage is that, with an initial p, the pastor is the diocesan bishop. Without the initial capital, it best means any priest who holds a pastoral appointment, including not only parish priests but also chaplains. We could say, then, that in the older usage, it includes but goes beyond 'parish priest'. In American usage, it means 'parish priest' but not traditionally in Canada (although, again, since all parish priests are pastors, one would not be incorrect in using it in most circumstances).

I would love to be Chaucerian and return to 'parson' but the Anglicans stole it from us and then the Methodists stole it from the Anglicans! Then the Methodists stopped using it and now it's gone! Sigh. There's a long story about that one but I shan't bore the list tonight over it. It has to do with the complexities of absenteeism in the Church of England. Way too complex for one evening. (Ah! A sentence fragment!). I'll close by noting that the last Methodist ministers seem to have abandoned the term in the 1920s, along with their stove-pipe hats.

Dare we restore parson? No, that would be archæologistic. Well, maybe we can make an exception.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

This is good, but still a bit like tossing a cup of water at a house burnt down. I mean, a second vicar in a minor parish.... this is what is, in 2010, given to the only dependable and growing part of the Belgian church. They really want to touch ground completely before thinking of restauration in the Europeean capital?

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. P.K.T.P.,

In Gand there is a Mass every Sunday (and Feast-day?), celebrated by an FSSPX-priests from Antwerp.

In Bruge, only the FSSP has an apostolate yes.

Brussels, being the "heart of the EU", is getting crowded with Islamic folks, as you point out correctly. Let us pray that the growing availability of the Holy Sacrifice and true Catholicism can turn Europe's tide. It would be a sad sight if Europe would stop being Catholic and suffer a fate as did (do) the areas where Catholicism was flourishing at the beginning of the Church.

Pax et bonum
IM

Anonymous said...

Why an alternative to the Fraternity of St Pius X? Because many Catholics want to remain in obedience to Sovereign Pontiff as well as having the venerable Roman rite. In Brussels today only the Masses at the Sacré-Coeur de Lindthout and those of the FSSP offer this possiblity.

Cruise the Groove. said...

This really is wonderful news for our brethren in Brussels in the Church Militant.

I wish like anything there was an FSSP Mass anywhere within 100 miles of our home.
I would go to an FSSP Parish in a flash.
As things stand now, there is only an FSSPX Mass within reasonable driving distance, so we have no choice but to fulfill our Holy Day obligations there twice per month.

I make this statement because I believe many Caholic faithful who are attached to the TLM, are in this predicament;they would prefer to assist at a fully regularised FSSP parish, but have no access to one, they have no recourse but to assist at FSSPX Masses which are far more numerous than FSSP parishes.
In the US at least.

Anonymous said...

Bryan said: "Abbe Jacques Van der Biest is not called the 'Cure' (Parish Priest) of the Parish but the "Administrateur" on the FSSP Press Release. The Wiki page reveals that Abbe Van der Biest, who had been the Cure (Parish priest) resisted being put into retirement and and was allowed to stay in the Parish".

This is correct. In 2008, Cardinal Danneels and his auxiliary Bishop De Kesel tried to replace Fr. Van der Biest but they failed because he is just such a well-kown and popular figure - not only within the Archdiocese but in Brussels at large. He is one of the most famous Bruxellois. So, two years ago, De Kesel and Danneels found some sort of compromise: he was no longer vicar (curé) and was appointed "administrateur" instead. But this is just redtape. In the practice, nothing changed. He is still firmly in control of the Minimes parish, with which he is inseparably associated in the mind of every Bruxellois. Actually, he has always served at that parish, ever since his priestly ordination, back in 1954! With this in mind, it was unthinkable for FSSP's Fr. Hygonnet - or anyone for that matter - to be appointed head of that parish while Fr. Van der Biest is alive (he is 81 now).

Anonymous said...

Is there a coincidence that usually FSSP are settled very, very close to an FSSPX chapel?
Can anyone tell me if this is a pattern observed in other locations?

Anonymous said...

"Its last bishop was a notorious liberal and was also doing other bad things. But the other bad things are not as bad as being a liberal. Nothing is as bad as being a liberal."

I assume, Mr Perkins, your tongue is firmly in your cheek? If not, if you can seriously make such a comment with sincere belief in its merit, as a traditionalist Catholic I can only say that the fringe you seem determined to trumpet is truly more degraded than almost anything one finds on the 'other side'. With respect, such a comment does nothing to advance, let alone represent, the traditionalist cause. With respect, such an idea -or is it a tactic? - is, on its face, impossible to reconcile with reality.

Mar said...

Anonymous 00:08,

Perhaps you should read 'Liberalism Is a Sin' by Don Felix Sarda Y. Salvany.

Long-Skirts said...

an anon said:

"Is there a coincidence that usually FSSP are settled very, very close to an FSSPX chapel?"

BINGO!!

Anonymous said...

15 November, 2010 23:08 said:
"Is there a coincidence that usually FSSP are settled very, very close to an FSSPX chapel?"

Anonymous, I don't think it is significant in this case. First, central Brussels is tiny (about 10 times the size of the Vatican City). Second, Fr. Van der Biest has a record of housing "tridentine" services. He has done so for at least 20 years, although on a case to case basis, so his parish was a natural choice for the FSSP. Moreover, Fr. Van der Biest is not anti-FSSPX: in the 1990s a local FSSPX choir held several (publicized) spiritual concerts in his church and he is known to have even accepted some FSSPX priests to celebrate some sacraments there too (although in a less public way).

Mind you, all of this does not make Fr. Van der Biest a trad: politically and socially, he is every bit a leftist. Liturgically, he is pretty traditional, but doctrinally speaking he is a maverick: I shall never forget how one day he told me that marriage was not a sacrament until the Council of Trent!
To make a long story short, there is definitely no anti-FSSPX agenda on the part of Fr. Van der Biest, although it might be a different matter in the mind of FSSP's Fr. Hygonnet.

Anonymous said...

Quite a bit off-topic - sorry for that:

Was there any attention paid to the 40th anniversary of the FSSPX? I think I must have missed it here!

Ah, and did you hear the sermon of Mgr. Fellay in St. Nicolas du Chardonnet of November 7th? Very beautiful! I hope it will become available in English somewhere soon for it to become more widely known.

You can find it at laportelatine.org/

GB you all!

Anonymous said...

Dear I.M.:

I meant that there was no *regularised* Mass at Gand/Gent. Yes, I knew about the S.S.P.X one.

For regularised Masses, nothing for Gand and only the F.S.S.P. once per month in Bruges. The other dioceses all have regularised Mass every Sunday: Brussels (I.C.R., F.S.S.P.), Liège, Namur, Hasselt, Antwerp, Tournai.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mar

Interesting that you should mention that book. I am quite serious in writing that I've read it thoroughly and currently have a copy on my bedside table. However, I must admit that it is very repetitious.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

One final comment:

I think that, having a permanent establishment in Brussels will make it easier for the F.S.S.P. to serve Flanders, to the west, much better. There is reason to hope that the Fraternity might expand into the Dioceses of Gand and increase Masses at Bruges. It is something to pray on, as those areas have been a liturgical and doctrinal wasteland now for a very long time.

P.K.T.P.

Anonymous said...

Anon. 008:

Sorry I didn't notice your comment from before. Well, of course, as long-timers on this blog know, my statement was tongue-in-cheek. Nevetheless, I find it impossible to find an adequate way to convey to anyone just how much damage the liberals have done to Holy Church over the last forty years. I like some of the statements of Archbishop Lefebvre on this subject because they are direct, not inflated, and they cut through all the nonsense 'dialoging' like a knife. He would probably say that they have replaced the Church with a Protestant sect known as Conciliarism, leaving behind a rump that is the real Church, some of which is the S.S.P.X and most of which remains subject to the bishops but is confused and divided.

The devil appeared to Blessed Pope Pius IX and told him, that within 100 years, he would destroy the Church. I daresay he almost succeeded--but not quite. I find it hard to see the sexual abuse scandals, especially the number and the severity of them, as anything less than a Satanic take-over of much of the priesthood. I have also seen over my own lifetime an almost complete loss of spirit in the Church. The spirit of the priests and nuns and Brothers that was known in the first six decades of the twentieth century is just gone.

I think that what needs to be done is actually more than I imagine to be possible. For example, I cannot imagine an abolition of the New Mass in my own lifetime and spend little or no time actually advocating that. But with God, anything is possible. When the remedy is found, we shall probably wonder why we all didn't see it more clearly. Remember the fall of communism in 1990? We didn't think that possible either but it all seemed so natural after it had happened.

P.K.T.P.

Long-Skirts said...

Anon. asked:

"Was there any attention paid to the 40th anniversary of the FSSPX?"

FORTY

In the ballroom
In hotel
Souls aligned
'Gainst gates of Hell

Souls aligned
For forty years
'Gainst diabolical
Hierarchical tiers

'Gainst the novel
'Gainst the grain
'Gainst the Rhine
Who sought to reign

'Gainst the draining
Of the Tibre
'Gainst the wolves
In sheepskin fibre

'Gainst anathema
Heresy
'Gainst authentic
Pharisee

'Gainst pale priests
'Gainst mad mitres
Mother's militant
Church fierce fighters

In the ballroom
In hotel
Souls aligned
To thank Marcel

Souls aligned
For forty years
Way of the Cross
Way of the tears

Way of the Cross
Forty days of fast
Forty years in the desert
The die was cast

The die was cast
You and me or for any?
A traditional-forty
Not for all but for many!!

Mar said...

To P.K.T.P.,
Ah well, repetition and reinforcement are very sound pedagogical principles!

Anonymous said...

This is wonderful news. The antiseptic to the cespool of Belgium.

Matt