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For the record: Monsignor Nicola Bux's letter to Bishop Fellay and the Priests of the SSPX

To His Excellency, Bishop Bernard Fellay, and to the Priests of the Society of Saint Pius X


Your Excellency,
Most dear Brothers,

Christian brotherhood is stronger than flesh and blood because it offers us, thanks to the divine Eucharist, a foretaste of heaven.

Christ invited us to experience communion, this is what our "I" is made of. Communion means loving one's neighbor a priori, because we have the one Savior in common with him. Based on this fact, communion is ready for every sacrifice in the name of unity; and this unity must be visible, as the last petition addressed by Our Lord to his Father teaches us - "ut unum sint, ut credat mundus" -, because this is the decisive testimony of Christ's friends.

It is undeniable that numerous facts of Vatican II and of the period that followed it, related to the human dimension of this event, have represented true calamities and have caused intense pain to many great Churchmen. But God does not allow His Holy Church to reach self-destruction.

We cannot consider the severity of the human factor without having confidence in the divine factor, that is to say, in Providence, who guides history and, in particular, the history of the Church, while respecting human freedom.

The Church is at once a divine institution, divinely protected, and a product of men. Her divine aspect does not deny her human one - personality and freedom - and does not necessarily hinder it; her human aspect, while remaining whole and even compromising, never denies her divine one.

For reasons of Faith, but also due to the confirmations, albeit slow ones, that we are able observe at the historical level, we believe that God has prepared and continues to prepare, throughout these years, men who are worthy of rectifying the errors and the ommissions we all deplore. Holy works already exist, and will appear in still greater numbers, that are isolated ones from the others but that a divine strategy links at a distance and whose actions add up to a well-ordered design, as it miraculously happened at the time of the painful Lutheran rebellion.

These divine interventions seem to grow in proportion to the complexity of the facts. The future will make it clear, as we are convinced, and it seems dawn is almost at hand.

During some moments, the uncertain dawn struggles with darkness, which fades slowly, but when it appears we know that the sun is there, and that it will invariably pursue its course in the heavens.

With Saint Catherine of Siena, we wish to say: "Come to Rome in complete safety," next to the house of the common Father who was given to us as the visible and perpetual principle and foundation of Catholic unity.

Come take part in this blessed future in which we can already foresee dawn, despite the persistent darkness. Your refusal would increase darkness, not light. And yet the sparks of light we can already admire are numerous, beginning with those of the great liturgical restoration effected by the motu proprio "Summorum Pontificum". It stirs up, throughout the whole world, a large movement of adherence from all those who wish to increase the worship of God, particularly the young.

How to ignore the other concrete gestures, full of meaning, of the Holy Father, such as the lifting of the excommunications of the bishops ordained by Abp. Lefebvre, the opening of a public debate on the interpretation of Vatican II in light of Tradition, and, for this purpose, the renewal of the Ecclesia Dei Commission?

Perplexities certainly remain, points to be deepened or detailed, as those regarding ecumenism and interreligious dialogue (which has been, for that matter, already the object of an important clarification given by the declaration Dominus Iesus, of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, of August 6, 2000), or regarding the way in which religious liberty is to be understood.

Also on these matters, your canonically assured presence within the Church will help bring more light.

How not to think of the contribution you could give to the welfare of the whole Church, thanks to your pastoral and doctrinal resources, your capabilities and your sensibility?

This is the appropriate moment, the favorable time to come. Timete Dominum transeuntem: let not the occasion of grace the Lord offers you pass by, let it not pass by your side without recognizing it.

Will the Lord grant another one? Will not we all one day appear before His Court and answer not only for the evil we have done, but above all for the good we might have accomplished but did not?

The Holy Father's heart trembles: he awaits you anxiously because he loves you, because the Church needs you for a common profession of faith before a world that is each day more secularized and that seems to turn its back to its Creator and Savior hopelessly.

In the full ecclesial communion with the great family that is the Catholic Church, your voice will no longer be stifled, your contribution will be neither ignorable nor ignored, but will be able to bring forth, with that of so many others, abundant fruits which would otherwise go to waste.

The Immaculate teaches us that too many graces are lost because they are not asked for; we are convinced that, by answering the offer of the Holy Father favorably, the Society of Saint Pius X will become an instrument to enkindle new rays from the fingers of our Heavenly Mother.

On this day dedicated to him, may Saint Joseph, spouse of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Patron of the Universal Church, inspire and sustain your resolutions: "Come to Rome in all safety".

Rome, March 19, 2012.
Feast of Saint Joseph

d. Nicola Bux

The original French text of the open letter, courtesy of Scuola Ecclesia Mater.

67 comments:

Jonvilas said...

Actually, very reasonable words. Pray that Bp. Fellay would listen to them. And above all, pray to our Regina coelorum and her spouse St. Joseph. Amen.

TomG said...

A marvelous entreaty from a very holy man. May it bear fruit.

JMJ Ora Pro Nobis said...

What a beautiful and reasonable letter! There are obviously still good reasons not to sign but so there are good reasons to sign.

Francis said...

Very straightforward and encouraging words from Monsignor Bux. I really think that His Holiness, though not willing to abandon all of the Vatican II modernism and relativism all at once, wants the FSSPX back in "full communion" with Rome. I think the real obstacle to "unity" is members of the curia and outside forces. We all know who these people are. St. Joseph pray for us.

Prof. Basto said...

Fiat!

anabel said...

From his mouth to G-d's ears may it be so.

Mike said...

SSPX:

Work within the Church; heal the wounds, give an example of filial obedience, keep to your charism, remember your final days on earth, love the Vicar of Christ with words and actions, banish the separatist tendencies that may have developed over the years,
rock the forces of modernism in the Church onto their knees.

Bartholomew said...

"Come to Rome in complete safety"

A Rome which endorses the Neocatechumenal Way? (Rome's "Big Tent" ecclesiology)

A Rome which refuses to take charge of the liturgy by which God is worshiped and which suffers abuse all over the world?

A Rome which continues to appoint Ordinaries like the one appointed today as the Archbishop of Baltimore -- one who was involved in protecting homosexual priests while he was a Chancery official as well as an Auxiliary Bishop in Washington? While in Bridgeport, he drove a priest from the priesthood after he hired a private investigator to uncover his homosexual pastor's theft of $1.4 million in parish funds.

A Rome which permitted -- long before Obamacare -- the bishops of Wisconsin to purchase medical insurance policies which paid for abortifacient contraceptives?

A Rome which permitted the bishops of Connecticut to permit administering "the morning-after pill" in Catholic hospitals treating cases of rape?

A Rome which, in effect, teaches that the Jews have no need for conversion because the Old Covenant is still viable?

A Rome which has ceased the conversion efforts of both Russian and Orthodox Christians to the One True Faith?

Msgr. Bux's letter is kind; he, unfortunately, is a bit naive.

Tonto said...

Me no trust him kemosabe...

Cruise the Groove. said...

I do not see how Bishop Fellay can reject this heartfelt and beautiful plea.

McCormack said...

In response to Bartholomew:

Your points are all the more reason why the FSSPX needs to come home, and is needed in the Church today. It's a completely defeatist attitude to say "Oh well, we're drowning, so might as well just forget it." The more groups and forces who are fighting for the True Faith we have inside the Church rather than outside it, the more we can make a difference and recover so much lost ground.

Both parties need this reunion.

Ignatius said...

Gee Bartholomew, seems like you do not like Rome very much.
Why state some of the problems done by man?
I am confused when things are pointed out, he did this, he did that, they did this they did that - yes...and? What else is new, the Church is run by men, sinners.
What about you Bartholomew? You are part of the Church, and your sins cause a ripple effect, so MAYBE all that you listed is because of your sins, my sins, all of our sins. EACH one of us is responsible for the sins of the world, so how dare anyone point out those of others and the problems in Rome. The problems in Rome are problems in SSPX and everywhere, its mankind, sinners.
Trust in the Divine and do not worry.

R. John said...

Didn't Bishop Fellay say he was ready, as long as Rome did not compel them the SSPX to embrace the modern Masonic errors that have invaded the Church like cancer, such as religious liberty and false ecumenism? The ball is in Rome's court.

anabel said...

Bartholomew - your points are well taken, all of them true. But you forget one important thing: we are currently living within the time of diabolical disorientation.

Our current Holy Father has even given us a clue: "Pray for me that I do not flee for fear of the wolves."

In G-d's time, all will be corrected, especially with his wayward Bishops. May G-d help them! In the meantime, the good guys unite! Si? O no?

Jordanes551 said...

What happened to the "o" on your computer? It reads as a "-" every time it is placed between a "G" and a "d."

Ted Maysfield said...

Mike said:

"SSPX: Work within the Church; heal the wounds, give an example of filial obedience, keep to your charism, remember your final days on earth, love the Vicar of Christ with words and actions, banish the separatist tendencies that may have developed over the years, rock the forces of modernism in the Church onto their knees.” (End quote from Mike)

I agree 100% with Mike!
Are you listening, Bishop Fellay?
Schism is a terrible thing!

Ligusticus said...

Amen, Amen, Amen!

sam said...

The way I see it, the only way that the SSPX can do all that the Msgr. said in his letter and "feel safe" is to:
1-Make sure that the Pope is the only immediate superior of the SSPX superior.
2-Make sure that the Bishops who consecrate priests for the SSPX are elevated from their ranks only.
3-Make sure that the SSPX is able to establish parishes through out the world without the possibility of interference from the local ordinary of the Diocese.
4-Make sure that it doesn't have teach anything that contradicts Tradition.

At the same time this is a ridiculous list, because the better solution is for the issues that have appeared since the Second Vatican Council to get resolved. This way the SSPX won't have to be isolated in this way, and for the reset of us (me included) who aren't SSPX to be able to live in a Church in absolute continuity with its Apostolic Tradition as established by Christ the King on St.Peter the Head of the Apostle.

Niantic said...

A heartfelt and well reasoned plea by Monsignor Bux. Bishop Fellay is under tremendous pressure, both pro and con. Is this the time or is it not. Perhaps a great leap of faith is needed and take the offer and let our Lord sort it out. The key is, and always was, Peter, the Vicar of Christ, for good or ill. Perhaps in the most critical moments we have no choice but must submit in the final instance to Peter. God will do the rest according to His Will. I pray with all my heart for Bishop Fellay and his priests. The Universal Church, and our Holy Father, does need them desperately.

Malta said...

These are very measured words from Bishop Bux.

I hope and pray my friends in the SSPX take this opportunity to re-integrate with the Holy See.

Intransigence and stonewalling (on both sides--there is never going to be perfect agreement on both sides) should give way to unity--neither side should try to bend the will of the other. The SSPX should stop trying to force the Vatican to adopt its ways, and vice versa. The whole "Doctrinal Preamble" fiasco has been a bit annoying to me.

I know Vatican II is super-special to the aging clerics who took part in that pastoral-party, but its documents have been wrecking the Church since it commenced. Could this, possibly, be the working of the Holy Spirit? Methinks no, and I'm bolstering my argument not on my own un-theologically-trained mind, but on the renowned, Vatican-based, theologian Msgr. Gherardini, who says the general guidance of the Holy Spirit at an Ecumenical Council can fail, inasmuch as the free-will of the men animating a Council may take over.

That, in my opinion, explains why many of the documents of Vatican II are doctrinally unsound: the modernists took it over. Long live the 1960's!

Bartholomew said...

McCormack:

The SSPX priests ARE inside the Church. But I understand your desire that they be completely "regularized." However, when Rome, for 50 years, has abdicated its responsibility to teach and govern the Church with the clarity that She is called to offer, perhaps we shouldn't be so certain that grace isn't keeping the SSPX exactly where heaven wants them.

Ignatius:

I am indeed a sinner -- and I am ashamed by their kind and number, and I am certain that they have contributed to the present insanity within the Church. However, sin flourishes all the more in chaos because of discouragement and disorientation. One cannot ignore what the intellect presents as contradictions, no more than one can ignore one's own sinful contradictions against the Law of Christ.

JWDT said...

Great letter and plea...
Two thinks came to my attention in this letter;
1st "Canonical Place within the Church"
Makes me wonder what the Canonical Structure must be?
2nd Upon reading this and the associated replies, I am wondering what 'safeguards or guarantees' are or would be put in place for the FSSPX to carry out there mission once absorbed by the Vatican?
Pray & Wait!

M. A. said...

Can the SSPX be assured that the TLM will not be "updated" in attempts to have it converge with the N.O.?

Peter said...

An excellent response to Bishop Williamson by Fr. Aulagnier as to what would Abp. Lefebvre do and who is TRULY FAITHFUL to the legacy and mind of the Archbishop. http://www.revue-item.com/5696/reponse-a-mgr-williamson/

Tradical said...

In spite of all the well wishes etc, based on how the hostile elements within the Vatican have dealt with other Traditional congregations when they 'stepped out of line' realistically I believe it will come down to two items:
A. Does the SSPX have to compromise on any item of principle?
B. Do they feel they can trust the prelates that they are dealing with?

P^3

Woody said...

Now is the time for the SSPX to be regularized within the Church. Does anyone really think that the next pope will be even as sympathetic as Pope Benedict? Or the one after that? From the point of view of how best to do effective work for the good of the Church and souls, as has been discussed, it would be necessary for the SSPX to take the risks, take a leap of faith in God, and accept a juridical solution while keeping open the avenues to dispute from within.

Not only that, but, as indicated above, just from a human point of view the time is ripe now, and may well not be ripe again for quite some time. Does the SSPX really want to risk becoming the Old Believers of the Catholic Church (and for those who haven't followed Orthodoxy, the OBs have, for the most part,been out of communion with Moscow for more than 400 years)? Of course, when I told a friend this, he replied, "Woody, there won't be another 400 years". I guess I am not quite so sure, myself.

Brian said...

What a gentleman.

Ora et Labora said...

Ora et Labora said...
I think this is a heartfelt letter to FSSPX from Monsignor Nicola Bux.

I suggest everyone should read it a few times and use it to meditate on how tragic it would be if the Society of St. Pius X reject the Preamble.

Indeed Schism is very tragic thing that could happen,and it will happen if the SSPX chooses to rejects the offer put on the table by Rome.

Stone me to death if you want, but the words of the Vatican to the FSSPX are suggesting that a Formal Schism could be in the horizons; allow me to quote the Vatican again:

"out of a concern for avoiding an ecclesial rupture with painful and incalculable consequences"

only mean one thing:it is time to make a final decision and I am not talking about the SSPX MAKING THE FINAL DECISION ON THE MATTER.

Let's remember one thing the Society of St.Pius X can say yes or no to the Preamble and that is their prerogative, but the HOLY SEE is the only one that will make the "final decision" on the matter.

21 March, 2012 03:30

Paul M said...

Mons. Bux's sincerity is heartening. It would be lovely if the path to what he asks did not involve compromising in matters of Faith. But, that is the reason the SSPX holds out, and must continue to do so, until they can be sure that the abberations of Faith in VII (call them hemeneutics of rupture if you like) are both recognised, and abandoned.

For those of you who think the SSPX needs to re-enter the church for the sake of the Church... I wonder if you have ever stopped to consider the absurdity of what you suggest. The Church is a perfect Society ie: it contains within itself all that is required for it to achieve it's end. It does not need the help or any outside influence. If the SSPX is outside the Church, the Church does not need it. However, the SSPX maintains, (and I am thoroughly convinced they are correct) that they have never left the Church. Indeed, since the excommunications are no longer considered valid, how can we not consider them anything but 'on the inside' already. All we need is for Rome to finally recognise the reality.

Barbara said...

"Msgr. Bux's letter is kind; he, unfortunately, is a bit naive."

Does that mean Bartholemew, that you would counsel the Fraternity to stay where they are until "things are more perfect in the Church" - seeing your litany of problems - I should have thought the other way around...We absolutely need them - like yesterday!
Mons Bux's letter is so encouraging - I get the sense that you find it too much so - so the good and expert Monsignore is naive and you think YOU are more in reality than he is? I see.

This is the most important paragraph in the letter in my birw:

"The Holy Father's heart trembles: he awaits you anxiously because he loves you, because the Church needs you for a common profession of faith before a world that is each day more secularized and that seems to turn its back to its Creator and Savior hopelessly."

That's all Bishop Fellay needs to know, I should think. (obviously Mons. Bux would never invent such a thing).
Certainly it should be the most important thing pleasing Our Lord's Vicar in something that is clearly good - we know then that we are pleasing Him, Our Lord Jesus.

Dear Bishop Fellay, this is a plea you can't refuse. We know the Church is rampant with modernism and liberalism - but this is precisely the reason we need you here fully with us - it's not easy for any of us. I would love to be able come to your chapels (there is one near me) but I will not do this until you are in FULL communion. I am sure there are many other Catholics who find themselves in my position.

Prayers to Our Lady for this most crucial matter,

Barbara

P.S. @ Paul M.
The Pope has said openly (the letter to Bishops) that the Bishops and priests of the Fraternity do not have full faculties.
Barbara

JMJ Ora Pro Nobis said...

Barbara the nonsense about full communion and faculties is exactly that, nonsense. The pope has already conceded (in a meeting with Bp Fellay) that there was probably a state of necessity in several countries throughout europe and therefore the SSPX's canonical argument which was already extremely solid becomes pretty much impregnable. As Rome has spent several decades denying that there was a state of necessity this concession serves to once again (much as with the acceptance that the old mass was never abrogated) prove the SSPX right.

This full, partial, half communion doctrine was invented post V2 and used to describe the Church's relations with non catholic sects and schismatics in a more 'ecumenical way'. The simple fact is one is either in the Church or not, one cannot be 'partially in the church' that is such errant nonsense that I cannot believe anyone seriously considers it. Consider one enters the Church via baptism and leaves via either schism, heresy, apostasy or excommunicate vitandi (the most severe form of excommunication). Certainly one can be in the Church and be under punishment such as censure, interdict or even certain types of excommunication but one is not in 'partial communion' no more than a citizen of a country that is fined or imprisoned is only a 'partial citizen' of that country so long as they are punished.

The only reason people have accused the SSPX of being 'out of communion' that is outside the Church is because they were unjustly suppressed some 40 years ago and then consecrated some bishops. Now their suppression was because they refused to agree with the absurd doctrines that were coming out of Rome at the time (a fact that all contemparies admit) and their consecration of bishops was necessary to continue their work. Given the state of necessity which clearly exists in the Church it was entirely justified. If therefore they were punished solely because they refused to change from the faith that had always been taught to the Vatican 2 faith and if there is a state of necessity in the Church today then they are 'in the church' and not under any censure regardless of what Rome may or may not say.

I would like to see you make a convincing case that:
a)They were punished for some reason other than refusing to change from the age old catholic belief to the new conciliar faith, and
b)that there is not a state of necessity in the Church today

If you cannot do both of these things, or at the very least point B you will have failed to prove the fundamental presumptions which underlie you belief and therefore not only be making an unconvincing case but also be relying on unreasonable presumptions to justify your beliefs.

If your answer consist of repating ad absurdam 'The Pope has said...' your argument will likewise fail. We are not concerned with what the Pope has said, we all know what has said, we are concerned with whether he is right or not.

PEH said...

With all that is happening in the Church today it is imperative that Traditional groups like the SSPX be guaranteed immunity from the excesses flowing from the "new springtime." Can this be done? I doubt it but with God all things are possible.

My website at http://phaley.faithweb.com presents a case for a State of Necessity mentioned in the Code of Canon Law, canon 1324, subs 4 & 5, and it is up to each individual IMO to decide whether the case is indeed sufficient to justify temporary independence from the NO. As I read the canon, it is the person perceiving the state of necessity that is exempt from punishment. That does not appear, however, to be the tone of Cardinal Levada's message. It is more like the SSPX is already judged guilty without any recourse by the CDF and, by implication, by the holy father himself. Can this be true?

Can the SSPX and the independents accomplish more from their present positions or by accepting the call to unify with the NO wing where abominable sacrileges and heresies occur almost daily? Will the holy father give them the position they need to guarantee their rightful aspirations? Will the NO bishops interfere? Questions abound; answers not so much.

Igumen Gregory said...

With regard to the Old Believers, better yet the Old Ritualists, many have been reconciled with the Moscow Patriarchate, especially among those who maintained the priesthood. the priestless crowd seem to be loosing ground among their young, as they have become a sect rather than a voice of old ritual within the Church.

Andrew said...

A very good letter. I am not an SSPX follower. However, I sympathize with many of their concerns. That being said, their irregular situation cannot exist indefinately. I fear that as the years go on, the SSPX will become a fringe group and the many good things that are in the SSPX will be lost. I believe that the SSPX can do far more good in full communion with the Church than outside. Through them and other like groups (i.e. FSSP, Institute of Christ, Soverign Priest etc.) more "regular" Catholics will be exposed to the beauty and holiness of Traditional Catholicism. They in turn will demand a return to Traition inside the Church. The liberal elements changed the Church using such means...why can't we return the Church to Tradition through the same means they used (i.e. inside the Church and her structures). As it stands now, the influence of the SSPX is limited and as the long they stay outside of full communion, the risk of becoming "deformed" will grow as the decades pass. Please, may the SSPX head this letter! We need them!

Enoch said...

PEH asked:

"Will the holy father give them the position they need to guarantee their rightful aspirations? Will the NO bishops interfere?"

Regarding the Holy Father guaranteeing them their rightful aspirations, I suppose it depends on what those aspirations are. If those aspirations line up with the aspirations of the Catholic Church (the visible Church), then there shouldn't be a problem.

Will the NO bishops interfere? Yes, some of the bishops probably will. But if a fraternity of priests believes that they should have it easy with smooth sailing all the time, then they belong to the wrong religion. Those who are consecrated may have to suffer, and it may be at the hands of churchmen, too. They will have to buck up and be brave and courageous of they want to minister lawfully in the Catholic Church.

On the other hand, the FSSP have 162 seminarians worldwide at the moment. That's a lot of young men who will go out into the Church to offer the Mass of All Time, and teach sound Catholic doctrine. The SSPX risks being left behind if they decide to remain outside the authortiy and jurisdiction of the Catholic Church.

anabel said...

Jordanes,

the hyphens are intentional. As you see there are many other Os in my post. :)

This is an old tradition/custom. I'm not sure where I learned it, maybe from the nuns?

It is an act of reverence to Our Lord. Comes from the ancient recognition that Our Lord is so awesome, so great, that we dare not even speak, or in this case write, His Holy Name.

Maybe the more learned among us knows from whence it comes?

St. Joseph & St. Benedict's little friend said...

"Veni Sancte Spiritus" ! Let us hope that the humility & charity bestowed to H.E. Bishop Fellay overcome all obstacles so that when he trembles before the Divine Judge, he reassuringly hears: "Come, ye blessed of My Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat. . ." May the multitudes of souls created by the Holy Trinity not starve because of diabolical fears that would impede Their servant to humble himself before the Vicar of Christ in the precise moment ordained by Eternal Wisdom, manifest by Their Divine Providence

Kathleen said...

My understanding was it's a Jewish practice to not write the name of God. It has never been a Catholic practice to my knowledge, though I'm always open to correction.

On topic, this letter from the Monsignor fills me with tremendous hope that perhaps the wolves' days are shortening.

I continue to pray that our Merciful God resolve the difficulties surrounding the Society in a manner pleasing to Him.

We need His soldiers.

JMJ Ora Pro Nobis said...

anabel, the only people I've ever seen do that are jews due to their belief on not pronouncing the name of God. So far as I know that view has been soundly rejected by the Christian faith due to the fact that as God became man we can now speak his name and so on, so I would question whether it is a particularly sound custom if I'm honest.

JMJ Ora Pro Nobis said...

http://www.traditionalcatholicmedia.com/flash/Misc/Fellay_02_300k.html

This press conference given by Bishop Fellay back in 2004 is VERY relevant!

Jordanes551 said...

Anabel, as JMJ Ora pro Nobis said, substituting a hyphen for the "o" in "God" is a Jewish custom. Catholics have never had any problem spelling the word "God," but I've noticed a few Catholics seem to have picked up that custom in recent times.

As for respect for God's Holy Name, Christians have maintained the ancient tradition of saying "Lord" rather than pronouncing the Holy Name of YHVH. But we write it "Lord," not "L-rd."

Barbara said...

Dear JMJ Ora pro nobis,

Well, it appears you didn’t really read all of my post. I am absolutely supportive of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X. For what it’s worth, after some reading (as an ordinary, insignificant, lay Catholic desiring to understand the devastation that has been taking place in the Church) I think they should not have been “punished” in the first place by the excommunications. But who am I? I also understand the state of necessity thing – we are still in it!

Ora Pro Nobis, I could go along with everything you wrote except the last piece: “We are not concerned with what the Pope has said, we all know what has said, we are concerned with whether he is right or not.”

1)We don’t ALL know what the Pope said on this issue – that is simply not true. He wrote this to the Bishops: “As long as the doctrinal issues are not resolved, the Fraternity has no canonical status in the Church and its ministers, even if they are free from ecclesiastical censure, do not exercise in a legitimate way any ministry in the Church.”

2)If you want, you can go on and on and on about whether the Pope is right or wrong in your rather know-it –all manner, - this Catholic here will not budge from the Holy Father’s words on such a grave issue. The situation is what it is, even if unjust. I don’t pretend to understand it all. However, upon re- reading that letter to the Bishops you can see that Pope Benedict XVI clearly desires “full reconciliation” with the Fraternity (if you want to avoid the “full communion” term).

3)Pope Benedict is the boss, - not good Bishop Fellay,nor you nor anyone else who comments on this blog and I trust His Holiness in this matter which is of utmost importance to the whole Church..

And just for those” new” people who perhaps don’t “know it all” , here is another extract from the Pope’s letter to the Bishops:

“Can a community leave us totally indifferent in which there are 491 priests, 215 seminarians, 6 seminaries, 88 schools, 2 university institutes, 117 brothers, 164 sisters? Should we really calmly leave them to drift away from the Church? I am thinking, for example, of the 491 priests. The plaited fabric of their motivations we cannot know. But I think that they would not have made their decision for the priesthood, if next to some askew or sick elements there had not been there the love of Christ and the will to proclaim Him and with Him the living God. Should we simply exclude them, as representatives of a radical marginal group, from the search for reconciliation and unity? What will then be?”

Barbara

Petrus Radii said...

While Msgr. Bux' intentions are good, he makes two grave errors.

1-His appeal is almost entirely emotional in nature, even if cloaked in the language of theology. Consequently, it is an irrational appeal and cannot be considered terribly compelling by a properly formed conscience.

2-Right at the outset, he states a horrible falsehood: "Communion is ready for every sacrifice for the sake of unity." This is objectively heretical---though I am sure he does not recognise it, due to his being influenced by the errors of this diabolically disoriented time.

We are forbidden to sacrifice the Truth for the sake of a pseudo-unity, which is nothing more than a surrender to the heresies and errors so rampant in the Novus Ordo Ecclesiae. Unity is NOT the greatest good in the Catholic Church. Unity is a fruit of holding to the True Faith, the True Liturgy, the true and just governance of the Church. Unity is NOT an end in itself, and as such, it cannot be used as a moral cudgel wielded against the skulls of those who seek to defend the One True Faith.

There is no "unity" demanded by the Novus Ordo of the schismatics, heretics, and apostates, whether inside or outside the visible body of the Church, who attempt to destroy her perennial teaching and liturgy. Those servants of satan are given free reign by the hierarchy.

One cannot today "come to Rome in complete safety." One must do it, of course, but it would be a fool's errand for the SSPX to give up the weapon of Truth, as Msgr. Bux demands. To walk unarmed into a battle is to invite a massacre.

I believe that the SSPX can and should find some sort of canonical arrangement with Rome, but not if the former are required by Rome to embrace the errors of Vatican II.

AGA said...

And he was angry, and would not go in. His father therefore coming out began to entreat him. And he answering, said to his father: Behold, for so many years do I serve thee, and I have never transgressed thy commandment, and yet thou hast never given me a kid to make merry with my friends: But as soon as this thy son is come, who hath devoured his substance with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.

But he said to him: Son, thou art always with me, and all I have is thine.
********

We never find out in the parable how the older, dutiful son responds to the father's mercy.

In this case, however, we shall see soon.

Tonto said...

Many thanks Petrus Radii for these wise words, wrought beyond the talents of this simple brave. I was wondering if/when anyone else would see the grave problems with Mgr. Bux' letter. The nature of this appeal also brought to mind another "E" word, but I'll humbly refrain from expanding on that.

Gregorian Mass said...

This is an amazing letter and clears away all the politics from the situation. It is wonderfully worded and takes a true Catholic in favor of what is in the best interest of the Church to write it. I was touched by much of it, especially the acknowledgement of the darkness that still surrounds and the pertinent role that the SSPX has to play in lightening the atmosphere. May God grant them the wisdom to come home. A more favorable time in my lifetime will probably not exist. It sounds like Rome wants to abandon many or its' erroneous teachings and needs the SSPX inside to do so. Let pride not stand in the way nor mistrust. It will not be "better" at some point in the future. Let Rome save face and come into full union to help save what is left of the Faith. Darkness may never prevail but the Faith and Faithful may be further reduced. The SSPX should do all it can to prevent that from indside the Church. That is where their voice, as stated, can not be ignored.

JMR said...

I am totally in agreement with Petrus Radii and Bartholomew. I am fortunate in that I attend an SPXX parish and the reverence during Mass and the teachings and content of the sermons are exactly the same as they were in the 50s'.I recently attended an FSSP Mass in England and was saddened to see the lack of reverence during Mass, such as women without head coverings. The priest's sermon was totally ecumenical about being "charitable" to other religions and Protestant sects.
How would the SPPX preservethe traditional Church if it accommodates itself to the N.O. church?

Malta said...

JMR:

I agree with you, but the mass you attend is also almost exactly identical to that which was celebrated 1,500 years ago with Pope St. Gregory the Great. Cheers!

Barbara said...

O help - really! Some people are never happy ! What is wrong with a heartfelt plea in which every "i" is not dotted, written by an agent that is not of the Divinity?

Such a lovely letter, too - from a good friend of Catholic Tradition!

dcs said...

Petrus Radii wrote::
His appeal is almost entirely emotional in nature, even if cloaked in the language of theology. Consequently, it is an irrational appeal and cannot be considered terribly compelling by a properly formed conscience.

An emotional appeal is not necessarily an irrational one and whether one finds it compelling says nothing about whether one's conscience is properly formed.

Right at the outset, he states a horrible falsehood: "Communion is ready for every sacrifice for the sake of unity." This is objectively heretical---though I am sure he does not recognise it, due to his being influenced by the errors of this diabolically disoriented time.

Exactly which heresy would you say that Msgr. Bux is espousing by this statement? And why should one believe that you are able to recognize the heresy in the statement while Msgr. Bux has not? After all, it could be you who are afflicted by a diabolical disorientation.

Picard said...

Even if kind this letter seems a bit inappropriate re the given context, the situation - and timing.

Such an open letter sets Msgr. Fellay under pressure and gives ammunition to those that do not want an agreement.

I think Bf. Fellay knows all the arguments in the letter. There are no new ones.

And there is really the problematic passage (I would not call it heretical, yes - but it is problmatic):
"communion is ready for every sacrifice in the name of unity"

Unity in truth - yes!
Unity outside of truth - no!

And then the other problematic passage:
Timete Dominum transeuntem: let not the occasion of grace the Lord offers you pass by, let it not pass by your side without recognizing it.

That suggest that the only possilbe point of time is - now. There will be no better in the future.
That is a) not sure and
b) too pessinistic for the future
c) put´s this kind of pressure on Msgr. Fellay: you must, you have to....

I am sure a well intented letter, a very friendly one - but perhaps imprudent and inappropriate for this point of time and special situation (as an open, public letter - a private one would have been better!!)

Tom S. said...

Petrus Radii is in fact completely wrong on several levels:

Clearly, this appeal IS entirely emotional in nature, but there is nothing wrong with that in the context of this letter encouraging Bp. Fellay to pursue unity based on a non-emotional agreement. Emotion as a motivating factor is good, as long it is not a substitute for good judgement.

The idea that Msgr. Bux' statement "Communion is ready for every sacrifice for the sake of unity" is heretical ignores completely the context. Were this a letter to someone outside the faith, that would be a valid point, but this is a letter from a Catholic Priest to a Catholic Bishop and the communion is expressed in that context.

And to say that one cannot "come to Rome in complete safety" implies a detailed knowledge of the inner workings of whatever caanonical agreement Bp. Fellay and the Holy Father are creating. There is nothing explicit or implied in in his comment which would lead me to believe he (the commentor) did have such knowledge.

Pablo the Mexican said...

OPEN REPLY TO OPEN LETTER OF MGR. NICOLA BUX


Monseigneur,

In an Open Letter of March 19, addressed to Bishop Fellay and to all priests of the SSPX, you appealed to us to accept the sincere and warm-hearted offer of reconciliation that Pope Benedict XVI is making to the SSPX for the healing of the long-standing rift between Rome and the SSPX. Let one of the SSPX bishops take upon himself to give you what he thinks might have been the answer of that “great churchman”, Archbishop Lefebvre.

Your letter begins with an appeal for “every sacrifice in the name of unity”. But there can be no true Catholic unity that is not grounded in the true Catholic Faith. The great Archbishop made every sacrifice for unity in the true doctrine of the Faith. Alas, the Doctrinal Discussions of 2009-2011 proved that the doctrinal rift between the Rome of Vatican II and the SSPX is as wide as ever. But Faith sacrificed for unity would be a faithless unity.

Of course the Church is an institution both divine and human. Of course the divine element cannot fail, so of course the Church cannot ultimately fail, and the sun will rise again. But one may beg to differ when you say that the dawn is close at hand, because that true Faith which the SSPX upheld in the Discussions is not shining out from the Rome of Vatican II, where accordingly the SSPX could not be in safety. Nor could it bring light if itself it adopted the Conciliar darkness.

The sincerity of the Pope’s wish to welcome back the SSPX into “full ecclesial communion”, as shown in a series of gestures of real good will, is not in doubt, but “ a common profession of faith” between the SSPX and believers in Vatican II is not possible, unless the SSPX were to desert that Faith which it defended in the Discussions. And when the SSPX cries “God forbid !” to such a desertion, far from its voice being stifled, it is heard all over the world.

Certainly, “this is the appropriate moment”, certainly “the favourable time is come” for that solution to the agonizing problems of Church and world which the heavenly Mother has long been calling for, and which depends upon the Holy Father alone. This clear solution has long been known.

How could Heaven possibly have left the world in such distress as that of the last 100 years without providing a solution like that provided by the prophet Elias for the leprosy of the Syrian General Namaan ? Humanly speaking, the solution seemed ridiculous, but nobody could say that it was not possible. It required merely some faith and humility. The pagan General gathered together enough faith and trust in the man of God to do what Heaven asked for, and of course he was cured instantaneously.

Let the Holy Father but gather together enough faith and trust in the promise of the Heavenly Mother! Let him but seize this “appropriate moment” before utter madmen succeed in launching the Third World War in the Middle East! Let him, we beg of him, we entreat him, save Church and world by merely doing what the Heavenly Mother asked for. It is not impossible. She would overcome all obstacles in his way. Certainly he alone can now save us from unimaginable and unnecessary suffering.

And if he wishes for any support in prayer or action with which the humble SSPX could help him to consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart in union with all the bishops of the world, whom the Heavenly Mother would rally, he knows that he could count first and foremost on the support of Bishop Fellay and the other three bishops of the SSPX, least among whom is

Your devoted servant in Christ,

+Richard Williamson.

*

D.A. said...

OPEN REPLY TO OPEN LETTER OF MGR. NICOLA BUX


Monseigneur,

In an Open Letter of March 19, addressed to Bishop Fellay and to all priests of the SSPX, you appealed to us to accept the sincere and warm-hearted offer of reconciliation that Pope Benedict XVI is making to the SSPX for the healing of the long-standing rift between Rome and the SSPX. Let one of the SSPX bishops take upon himself to give you what he thinks might have been the answer of that “great churchman”, Archbishop Lefebvre.

Your letter begins with an appeal for “every sacrifice in the name of unity”. But there can be no true Catholic unity that is not grounded in the true Catholic Faith. The great Archbishop made every sacrifice for unity in the true doctrine of the Faith. Alas, the Doctrinal Discussions of 2009-2011 proved that the doctrinal rift between the Rome of Vatican II and the SSPX is as wide as ever. But Faith sacrificed for unity would be a faithless unity.

Of course the Church is an institution both divine and human. Of course the divine element cannot fail, so of course the Church cannot ultimately fail, and the sun will rise again. But one may beg to differ when you say that the dawn is close at hand, because that true Faith which the SSPX upheld in the Discussions is not shining out from the Rome of Vatican II, where accordingly the SSPX could not be in safety. Nor could it bring light if itself it adopted the Conciliar darkness.

The sincerity of the Pope’s wish to welcome back the SSPX into “full ecclesial communion”, as shown in a series of gestures of real good will, is not in doubt, but “ a common profession of faith” between the SSPX and believers in Vatican II is not possible, unless the SSPX were to desert that Faith which it defended in the Discussions. And when the SSPX cries “God forbid !” to such a desertion, far from its voice being stifled, it is heard all over the world.

Certainly, “this is the appropriate moment”, certainly “the favourable time is come” for that solution to the agonizing problems of Church and world which the heavenly Mother has long been calling for, and which depends upon the Holy Father alone. This clear solution has long been known.

How could Heaven possibly have left the world in such distress as that of the last 100 years without providing a solution like that provided by the prophet Elias for the leprosy of the Syrian General Namaan ? Humanly speaking, the solution seemed ridiculous, but nobody could say that it was not possible. It required merely some faith and humility. The pagan General gathered together enough faith and trust in the man of God to do what Heaven asked for, and of course he was cured instantaneously.

Let the Holy Father but gather together enough faith and trust in the promise of the Heavenly Mother! Let him but seize this “appropriate moment” before utter madmen succeed in launching the Third World War in the Middle East! Let him, we beg of him, we entreat him, save Church and world by merely doing what the Heavenly Mother asked for. It is not impossible. She would overcome all obstacles in his way.Certainly he alone can now save us from unimaginable and unnecessary suffering.

And if he wishes for any support in prayer or action with which the humble SSPX could help him to consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart in union with all the bishops of the world, whom the Heavenly Mother would rally, he knows that he could count first and foremost on the support of Bishop Fellay and the other three bishops of the SSPX, least among whom is

Your devoted servant in Christ,

+Richard Williamson.

Zak said...

I never though the day would come when I would say this, but it IS NOW TIME for public reunion between the Pope and the SSPX.

I hope they see they have done EXACTLY what they set out to do.

There is realization in the Vatican; awareness.

I can feel it. I hope the SSPX leadership can sense it too.

They now have the power to perform great works of healing for the whole Church.

Your Excellency! The Pope KNOWS! Cut him some slack! He desperately wants you to come back from your exile! You can do far more from THAT position NOW.

Come back! We want you back in the house! We've got slobs in here who don't have a clue! But they're pretty decrepit now... so they won't notice when you come in all the doors. Maybe fall over on their faces... but that's all...

--Zak

Long-Skirts said...

NOT
SUFFICIENT?

The Truth is
Daily in our face
Good priests defrocked
The queers disgrace

The Truth is
Daily ‘fore our eyes
The world wide web
Exposes lies

The Truth is
Daily on You/Tube
New Masses
Grease your soul and lube

The Truth is
Daily front and center
Unless approved
We will not enter

The Truth is
Daily past, now, future --
St. Pius the Tenth
Christ’ sufficient suture!

Barbara said...

Liked your post Zak.

M. A. said...

"Let him, we beg of him, we entreat him, save Church and world by merely doing what the Heavenly Mother asked for[consecration of Russia in union with the world's bishops]. ____________________

That is the "preamble" to which God has asked the Holy Father and bishops to acquiesce. Thus far, they have been refusing Him.

The peace in the Church and in the world has been entrusted to Our Blessed Mother, not to the SSPX. Let the Holy Father, PLEASE! comply with what God asks.

Long-Skirts said...

M A said:

"The peace in the Church and in the world has been entrusted to Our Blessed Mother, not to the SSPX. Let the Holy Father, PLEASE! comply with what God asks."

But the SSPX are the strongest supporters of what Our Blessed Mother has asked and we have been on another Rosary Crusade for her request over the last year and a half in our Chapels, schools, high schools,colleges, Monasteries, Convents, Retreat Houses and Seminaries all over the world.

Enoch said...

Russia has already been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, by Pope Pius X11, and Pope John Paul 11.

Sister Lucy herself was satisfied that the consecration had taken place.

M. A. said...

LongSkirts, please don't misunderstand me. I am totally supportive of the SSPX. What I meant was that the burden for the peace and unity in the Church does NOT fall on the Society.

This letter of Msgr. Bux, it seems to me, tends to want to send the Society on a "guilt trip", something which is unjust in the view that Popes themselves have been/are being disobedient to Heaven's request.

I would say that much blame for the condition of the Church lies at the very top where authority resides, not with the 4 bishops who merely point out that the King has no clothes!

dcs said...

By all means, let us have another Fatima rabbit hole!

In any case, the acceptance of a doctrinal preamble by the SSPX should in no wise depend on the acceptance by the Pope of a certain aspect of private revelation. It is not by private revelation that we know that the Pope is the earthly head of the Church.

dcs said...

something which is unjust in the view that Popes themselves have been/are being disobedient to Heaven's request.

A father doesn't lose his authority by being disobedient. What you are talking about is hypocrisy, not injustice.

Paul M said...

From the pew where I sit, Bishop Williamson has hit the nail on the head... 'Rome' imposes 'conditions' or 'preambles' or whatever but continually ignores the condition set by Heaven for overcoming the problem with the Church.

Let us pray for the Consecration of Russia be done as Our lady requested it.

Barb said...

A Personal Apostolic Administration would fulfill all of sam's 4 points and be good for the Church. The Holy Father needs the help of the FSSPX in a regularized mode.

Paul M said...

p.s
Mgr Williamson's reply deserves a post of it's own.
We can talk as much as we want, but it is all hot air until we follow Our Lady's request.

Picard said...

I am not a great fan fo Bf. Williamson and I am hoping for a "reconciliation" with Rome -

but I must confess that B. Williamsons letter is impressive. It has some good points, is written in a polite way and well-balanced.