Rorate Caeli


The Waldorf Astoria, New York
October 18, 2012

Although he again lost Protestant voters to his GOP opponent, Obama held onto his advantages among Catholic and Jewish voters. He won 70 percent of the Jewish vote, down from 78 percent in 2008, and he won Catholic voters 50 percent to 47 percent. Romney carried Protestant voters by a 13-point margin, 56 percent to 43 percent. (Source: Politico)


sam said...

A sad day for all Americans. I'll pray for the conversion of heart for those Catholics who voted for Obama.

GQ Rep said...

It was better to vote for Obama, than for someone like Romney who lied his way thru the campaign, in debates, in television ads, and radio. He changed his stands of every issue to meet every situation.

No one ever knew where he stood, on anything because he changed or backed down from previous statements nearly every day.

He denied making false or inaccurate statements even though the press called him on it more than a dozen times.

I would rather see someone like Obama as President, where you know where he stands....than Romney where we didn't.

As one reporter said, Romney would say and do anything to get elected.

We don't need a President like that! Regardless of how bad some people think Obama is!

Ma Tucker said...

GQ Rep I do not understand your position. Obama is a liar and promotes the destruction of human life, this we know for a fact. Romney, you are not sure about. Surely it is better to vote for uncertain death than certain death. There is no virtue in certainty for its own sake surely.

Anonymous said...

How petty and dull minded you Americans are. Don't you realise the effect you have on other countries. Our politicians align themselves with yours. They ape and copy your policies. Obama stands for interference in other countries and for murder through abortion. He will appoint your next High Court Justices. You are sunk!
Luckily the Congress is largely conservative...
Without clearing your deficit you country is sunk!
GQ Rep. What a vile creature you must be. Hold your tongue!

New Catholic said...

As Mr. Buchanan wrote in his reluctant endorsement, the matter of a leaner national government is more one of survival of the United States. The fractures and divisions in America have never been greater, and, considering the two options (because there were really just two options), the one to choose should be the one whose presence would guarantee to all groups, including Traditional Catholics, "the freedom to live differently and the space to live apart, according to their irreconcilable beliefs." (The forced payment of contraceptives and abortifacients by Catholic institutions is just a minor early sign of this, as the imposition of abortion as a constitutional right was a generation ago.)

Mr. Buchanan was right. This unbridgeable archipelago of Americas cannot be reconciled, and they will only grow further apart, under an overly centralized national government, and one shudders to think what will be the future, even in the short term, of such an irreconcilably fragmented Republic, and the effects this will have in the whole world.

James said...

A sad day for America and the world.

Obama is truly the devil incarnate, at war with Our Lord and all he stands for. The persecution of all that is good and true and holy will be stepped up now, as will the man's war on the Church of Christ, on marriage and on human life.

God have mercy on those poor lost souls who voted for that man. May they repent and receive sacramental absolution before they arrive at their Particular Judgment....

markus B said...

That picture says it all!

James said...

Cardinal Dolan - who disgraces his august title - should be excommunicated, along with everyone who voted for That Man.

Flambeaux said... was a non-choice as their policy propositions were nearly identical.

Perhaps it is better to stick with the devil we know. Not that it matters.

His will be done, not mine. How long, O LORD? How long?

Peterman said...

GQ rep, take a close listen..

Christopher said...

Ohio provisionals have not been counted, so apparently no one has been elected.

Pray and fast.

God Bless.

R. John said...

Heads they win, tails we lose.

As bad as Obama is, I really wonder if the Mormon, and his miracuous last-minute pro-life "conversion", would have been any better. We are dealing with two sides of the same coin. One sides represents the immoral left, and the otherside represents the immoral right.

Before the election I said "I expect Romney to win and things to get worse, but I won't be surprise of Obama wins and this get worse".

recusante said...

Very reminiscent of the Lord's justice of old. In the times of the prophets, when Israel fell to worshiping the gods of the pagans, the Lord used the armies of the pagans to scourge his people.

As the vast majority of the 'People of God' and her priests have turned to the false idol of Liberalism, it is fitting that the Lord use the same liberalism to scourge his people.

Joseph the third said...

I guess some people are more concerned about their political party winning than stopping the killing of innocent children. Sad

Jason C. said...

The Pat Buchanan editorial NC is referring to is worth a read. "If America did not exist as a nation, would these 50 disparate states surrender their sovereignty and independence to enter such a union as the United States of 2012?"

John said...

And after these things, I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power: and the earth was enlightened with his glory. [2] And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen; and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every unclean spirit, and the hold of every unclean and hateful bird: [3] Because all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication; and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her; and the merchants of the earth have been made rich by the power of her delicacies. [4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues. [5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and the Lord hath remembered her iniquities.

-Apocalypse 18:1-5

Xavier Rynne said...

50% of Catholics voted for this man. Great job there, bishops. Very impressive. Keep guffawing, Cardinal Dolan, it's very helpful.

NIANTIC said...

We get what we deserve. If we promote and glorify evils such as abortion, euthanasia, same sex "marriage" and so on, which are totally in opposition to God's natural law, than any society or country will slide into a pit of darkness and utter despair.
Unfortunately, this is now coming true for the United States. This beautiful land is quickly dimming its "shining light on the hill" and instead is doing Satan's bidding.

And sorry to say, but the truth is that the majority of our Catholic hierarchy has been leading the way to this end by being timid, confused,and scared to upset the folks in the pews, and the wordly powers that be and the money they disperse.

Mainstream "catholic" politicians and "catholic" educational institutions are dissenting and making a mockery of the teachings of the Church. Yet they remain to be "in good standing etc".

How can we continue to say "God bless America"? America has changed for the worst, not the better. The photo at the top of this post tells the story loud and clear.

Stephen said...

Yesterday we reaped what has been sown over the last few decades. Namely, US Catholic bishops have weakened the faith among the laity and have encouraged liberality in priests and nuns. What is most unfortunate is that this trend will not reverse itself soon and so we can expect a further slide in this country's morals and quality of public servants.

Don said...

The Silence of the Catholic Church over 5 decades has brought this.
I live in Ma Yesterday as I went to vote many People were holding Warren and Obama signs. WE had to come to a stop because of lines. I called to them and said "I hope none of you are Catholics". They quickly responded WE Are; I told them of the sin they were incurring. I told them they should not rercieve Holy Communion. They told me they pray the Rosary every night. As we drove home we passed a Large Knights of Columbus Council. They Had a HUGE SIGN for the Most Radical Pro Abortion Pro Sodomite candidate Warren.
Our Bishops and Many Proffesed Religious are largly to blame for this.
God`s Will be done.

tramtrist said...

Voting for Obama would have been an act of sin. That being said voting for Romney of 2002 in Mass. would have been just as bad. I think that may be what GQ is trying to say... It was not easy to believe him

Tom said...

GQ - I'd gladly take a question mark over a bold exclamation mark as wicked as Obama.

Christopher said...

Kyrie Eleison.

God Bless.

Rick DeLano said...

America is lost.

More fruits of Vatican II.

Look for a Traditional priest, pray, and prepare for persecution.

The conciliar Popes and bishops have failed.

The Council has failed.

God has weighed us in the balance and found us wanting.

doctor b said...

God have mercy on us. Mother of God, pray for us. Murdering 1.5 million babies a year, where sodomy is not only accepted, but the new "normal",where pornography is healthy, where God is removed from everything, where everything that was once morally and even secularly wrong is now right, where "Catholics" do not believe...Perhaps God is not going to destroy us, but will let us destroy ourselves. Is this the time of the anti-Christ or is the writer simply a traditional Catholic kook who prays that he will not deny the true Faith. St. Mother Cabrini, pray for us.

CredoUtIntelligam said...

Stop with the false equivalence. I understand that in the past, traditional Catholics felt like they had to choose between pro-war predatory capitalist candidates or pro-abortion candidates.

But this time it was really different. The Obama administration required the Church to affirmatively act contrary to its own teachings. This is a real change. I don't care if Romney wasn't sufficiently pro-life at an early enough time.

Romney would not have required the Catholic Church to act as a body against its own teachings.

A majority of American Catholics has just said, in effect, "I choose an administration that has and will continue to order my Church to act contrary to its own teachings." How can you flippantly say that one candidate was as bad as another?

American Catholics will find it increasingly difficult to operate at an institutional level, and must now turn the task of preserving the faith at the local level.

Matthias said...

The only solution now is the only solution there ever was: in the model of the friars, we must sanctify ourselves with the help of God's grace and preach Christ crucified throughout our land.

Fasten your Seatbelts! said...

"Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.

Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have changed the natural use into that use which is against nature.

And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.

And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers,

Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy.

Who, having known the justice of God, did not understand that they who do such things, are worthy of death; and not only they that do them, but they also that consent to them that do them."

TradDadof4 said...

"He won Catholic voters 50 percent to 47 percent." When are the defenders of the post-conciliar system going to admit that in keeping the flock "in the fold", the flock has been completely destroyed? For the flock, post-Vatican II, was told by the Pope and the bishops, "Go thou and ape the world." Romney was a horrible candidate (agreed) but any reasonably-catechized Catholic should vote third-party, write in Pat Paulsen, do anything other than pull that lever for Obama.

Texana said...

Since Obama and Romney both support abortion in cases of rape, incest, and "health" of the mother, voting for either one would be supporting an intrinsic evil. They both support gay marriage, another intrinsic evil. After two generations of socialism in public schools and in Novus Ordo ambos we have a nation under the influence of international banks and globalist interests who derive power from Lucifer and the culture of death. We must pray for the conversion of souls and our Republic to the true Catholic Faith.
Viva Cristo Rey!

tramtrist said...

Credo, while I think we all want to believe you, and Romney about his intentions regarding what the Church needs to provide to people (regarding emergency contraception, etc) his record in Mass. (again) says otherwise.

He really was not all that different at least while governor than Obama. I don't bring it up happily. I did vote for Romney but only because he could not get out of the fact that as president he said he would overturn the whole package. He couldn't get out of that easily anyway...
Point 3 in bold

Anonymous said...

When a clearly catholic choice is not availble the only choice you have is to vote for the lesser of the two evil. Obama has had no difficulty in telling you that he fully supported :abortion,gay marriage,gays in the military and so on. Obama's voting record even before the last election was one of the most radical liberal that we have ever seen before. So why so much surprise? Look around if the country is steeped in deep sin then the only fruit you can have is Obama because he represents where the majority stand in front of God!
Oh! they may go to church but do not choose God because He is not in their hearts!
Julia of Arc

Patrick said...

Cutting to the chase: the United States of America is now glaringly comprised of a growing majority which is secular, big government, crypto-socialist, slightly left of middle and rapidly rolling to the left regardless of candidates. The Roman Catholic Church is comically irrelevant to the national discourse, especially with a comedian like Dolan leading what tepid troupes he can attract. The vast majority of Roman Catholics are in name only, being abjectly ignorant of Catholicism while their vacuous, milquetoast bishops and priests smile and spout platitudes. Empires come and go and they invariably go when they become degenerate and promote individual selfishness above any and all concerns. In a land of (fill in the blank)-- every man for himself. The situation is simply pathetic but we ain't seen nothing yet brothers and sisters. Fasten your seat belts as you clutch your rosaries, this is no longer going to be just a bumpy ride but a crash of monumental destruction. Make sure you have some form of identification on you.

Broken system said...

As one who belongs to that 3% that didn't vote for either one, I should like very much to know whether Obama got an absolute majority or not. In other words, 50% is a round figure, was it rounded up (from, say, 49.95%), or rounded down?

It should give us some solace, at least, if he did not get an outright majority. Even if he did, that it was such an even split is a surprise to me. Between the Latino vote, and the white liberal cafeteria Catholic vote, I fully expected him to get 55% or more.

Either way, the only answer is prayer and penance. This war will probably not be won in voting booths.

Bernonensis said...

His Holiness, Benedict of Rome sixteenth of that name, has given the Empty Suit and Clueless Joe his congratulations and his blessing, just as he did four years ago. The (cheese) head of the New York Archdiocese and his fellow placeholders in the hierarchy are no doubt stumbling over themselves in their haste to do the same. So, as we look forward to four more years of B. Hussein Obama and his affirmative action presidency promoting infanticide, sexual deviancy and an economic policy that hypocritically condemns the deadly sin of avarice while promoting lust, sloth and envy, we can rest assured that the shepherds are guarding the flock with their usual care, can't we?

Matt said...

Sam said, "A sad day for all Americans."

Yes, certainly sad it is. Let's also pray for the rest of the ** citizenry who voted for Obama, Catholic and otherwise.

David of Glasgow said...

Still waiting for those fruits from the Greatest Council Ever...

Benedict Carter said...

Well done, Your Eminence.

Old Nick is well-pleased with you.

Christopher said...

Matt said...

Yes, certainly sad it is. Let's also pray for the rest of the ** citizenry who voted for Obama, Catholic and otherwise.

Not just Americans, but the whole world.

God Bless.

Father Anthony Cekada said...

"God must have loved spineless bishops, because He made so many of them..."

newguy40 said...

Well said, Mattias.

I completely agree with you. I very much appreciate the reminder of what I need to do.

Thanks very much for your act of charity by reminding us of what we are called to do... And, "bucking us up a bit" too.

Stout Hearts, Brothers and Sisters.

tom said...

"Did I tell you the one about the conscience clause...Stop me if ya' heard it."

S.M. of Kansas said...

I truly believe, today, that we got what we deserved. It may have been too easy to remain complaicent in a Romney administration. This was permitted by God to get the point across... we must be purified, persecuted even, to get "it". We will make it, we will survive. It will stink, and may be very hard for many of us the next 4 years, but we needed the come-upance.

And, if at the end of 4 years we cannot choose a proper leader (either by more sinful fools, or by an end to the Republic, so to speak), we might have the chance to prove our loyalty and faith by martyrdom. It is a glorious crown to earn, you know.

I am at peace. The Lord will guide and protect us... maybe not as a nation, but as individual souls devoted to His Most Sacred Heart.

Deo volente.

Christopher said...


The Pope is praying to God that Obama may actually take responsibilities seriously (i.e. a change of heart and doing right in the eyes of God), while expressing the hope that the Church maybe free from overt secular aggression. You're complaining that the Pope is actually praying to God and asserting the need for the Freedom of the Church?

Pope Benedict knows what he's doing.

God Bless.

Phil.E.Phino said...

America is the land of the free No More. It is Land of the Dumb, Obtuse and Ignorant voters.

Shame on you Catholic voters who elected this vile man!!!

Seraph said...

Catholicism is culturally dead in this country. The bishops are a disgrace.

There was an Iowa bishop who ran a newspaper advertisement begging Catholics to consider abortion as the top priority when forming their conscience in voting. What kind of vague gobbledygook is that? He didn't come out and say that Catholics could not vote for Obama. The bishops did not come out to oppose Obama. The bishops did not preach that voting for Obama is a mortal sin.

Tom said...

Mister Romney, via a recent television commerical from his campaign, declared his support for contraceptives and abortion.

From that moment, I refused to vote for him (not that I voted for President Obama).

Via said commerical, Mister Romney destroyed any notion that he was pro-life.

By the way, the commerical approved by Mister Romney featured the following dialogue:

"You know, those ads say Mitt Romney would ban all abortions and contraception seemed a bit extreme, so I looked into it.

"It turns out Romney doesn’t oppose contraception at all.

"In fact, he thinks abortion should be an option in cases of rape, incest or to save a mother’s life."

I refused to associate with Mister Romney's culture of death stance.


Edward said...

I guess the Church and Vatican II were alive and well in 2004 as President Bush carried the Catholic vote.

TradDadof4 said...

OK, if you think a Catholic can't be blamed for voting for Romney, try this result from 11/6 on for size: Which state is bestowed the honor of electing the first openly gay Senator? Vermont? Nope. Paul Ryan's home state of Wisconsin, where Catholics are the largest single denomination (and ultra conservative Wisconsin Synod Lutherans are second).

I think we have to go back to basics. A suggested Lesson One: How There Was/Is/Will-Never-Be a Catholic Value called Equality (and How this False Notion Is at the Root of All the World's Political Problems).

Long-Skirts said...

Matthias said...

"The only solution now is the only solution there ever was:"


The present profound
To thee...
The sacred Mass eternally.

No money, car
House or thing
Will ever make
Your soul quite sing

The way it does
If rich or poor
Makes sinners saints
A holy lure

Will take your tears
You shed in pain
And turn all loss
Into your gain.

Where heavy hearts
They go to pray
At dawn's first light
At break of day.

Where miracles
That never die
Will lighten hearts
So they can fly

Out in the world
But never of...
Candle light
And rock salt love.

The sacred Mass
Toward rising sun
And sun she scolds...
"He rose, you've won!"

PEH said...

The picture says it all and the Catholic Church in the person of the Cardinal Archbishop of New York is complicit in the election of the most pro-abort president in history. I was taught that such an action, as the`picture shows very clearly, is a grave scandal and a mortal sin. Is there anything such as sin in existence anymore?

Tom said...

Traditional Catholics who refused to vote for Romney because of his Mormonism, support for some abortions, or lack of outspoken opposition to birth control are idiots, plain and simple. Absolutely nothing will be gained from such "principled" stances, and much (including many unborn lives) will be lost.

This is why we lose stuff. The left sticks together. The left is, as they say, a "diverse coalition." _Nation_ readers who think Obama is too conservative voted for Obama; they didn't stay home and pout. People on the right, by contrast, regularly feel too dignified to vote for anyone who is less than perfect, and they let mass murder continue undiminished. I hope it makes you happy to know your hands are clean (except, of course, for all that baby blood).

TradDadof4 said...

Meant to say can not be blamed for *not* voting for Romney

Know Your Enemy said...


Voting in local and national elections can only be considered a moral obligation when the candidates propose a solidly Catholic, non-liberal platform that truly promotes the Social Kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ. It is not obligatory to vote for a lesser evil, but simply prudent and permissible.

If Romney had gotten in, Catholics (myself included) would've gone into a drug-type induced slumber with a false sense of security. I wrestled with my conscience to even vote for Romney given their platform that abortion is OK in cases of rape & incest. Many think that Ryan probably did not agree with it, but merely touted it for the Republican party, which makes it even worse! As a practicing Catholic, he was willing to compromise his values just to sellout, in my opinion.

Too many in the Church have compromised for too long already. So frankly, I'm tired of it! At least with Obama, we know where he stands. Hot or cold is best, not lukewarm!

Jeremiah Methuselah said...

A picture is worth1000 words.

Shame on you Excellency.

Johannes Faber said...

Anyone read St Alphonsus on uniformity with God's will? God knew from al eternity that Obama would have another four years. And he has factored it in for His greater good. This is his will. So we should tighten our belts, get ready for dark days etc, but more than that we should thank God that his will has been and will continue to be done. He is in control, and as a sinner myself I can say with confidence that I deserve all of the sufferings and problems that will come from this, and cannot complain about it. This is past of his plan. He is in control.

Mick said...


CredoUtIntelligam said...


Thank you for your common-sense reply.

Some people still can't grasp the distinction between voting for a President who commands the Church to act contrary to its teachings and voting for a candidate who is not actively pro-life. There is a qualitative difference between the two. The one changes the status quo by persecuting the Church, the other does not actively oppose the current anti-life status quo.

Holding out for the "Christ the King" candidate when these are your only legitimate options shows just why traditional Catholics are and always will be marginal elements in the Church.

Alphege said...

Could God be punishing America for her hubris? We read, after all, that he casts the mighty from their thrones.

Perhaps one should ask oneself first, what Christ teaches through his Church and try to see it through the eyes of faith, free from the eyes of nationality.

Tom said...

Tom said...

"Traditional Catholics who refused to vote for Romney because of his Mormonism, support for some abortions, or lack of outspoken opposition to birth control are idiots, plain and simple.

"Absolutely nothing will be gained from such "principled" stances, and much (including many unborn lives) will be lost.

"This is why we lose stuff. The left sticks together. The left is, as they say, a "diverse coalition." _Nation_ readers who think Obama is too conservative voted for Obama; they didn't stay home and pout.

"People on the right, by contrast, regularly feel too dignified to vote for anyone who is less than perfect, and they let mass murder continue undiminished.

"I hope it makes you happy to know your hands are clean (except, of course, for all that baby blood)."

Many, if not all, of your statements are flawed. For example, the notion that left-wingers always hold together and, during the 2012 A.D. Presidential election, voted in lockstep with President Obama is false.

Many younger Democrats failed to sustain their support for the President.

Support for President Obama dropped among black voters, who had been expected to vote for Mister Obama to a greater degree this election year than four years ago.

A recent review of college newspapers found that liberal editorial staffs who endorsed Mister Obama four years ago had refused to endorse him this election year.

Fox News reported that a greater percentage of Republicans voted for Romney than Democrats who voted for President Obama.

Therefore, political party loyalty in 2012 A.D. was greater among Republicans than Democrats.

I believe that your post is based upon emotionalism rather than factual information.

By the way, Fox News reported that President Obama's reponse to Hurricane Sandy was a major factor in garnering votes.

Fox News stated that "about four voters in 10 say Obama’s response to Hurricane Sandy was important to their vote (42 percent), and they backed the president by a better than two-to-one margin.

"Fifteen percent said it was the “most important” factor in their vote."

All sorts of nonsense has been attached to the discussion as to why President Obama won reelection.

America is bankrupt morally...the Republic is finished...Catholics are finished...

All that as the result of a Democrat having won the White House.

The bottom line is that President Obama's reelection was in jeopardy.


1. Republican power brokers, as they did in 2008, sunk themselves when they nominated Mister Romney, a lousy candidate.

2. The flip-flopping Mister Romney confused voters, particularly swing voters, who had looked for reasons to defeat President Obama.

3. The Republican party's unfavorable attitudes toward Hispanics sunk the party among Hispanic voters.

4. The Republican party's hatred of labor unions sunk the party in several states as Big Labor played a critical role in its support for President Obama.

Finally, Mister Romney failed to win Massachusetts, his home state.

That is an tremendously negative sign as not since 1916 has
a presidential candidate won the White House without having won his home state.

Mitt Romney even failed to win New Hampshire, where he owns a vacation home.

Mitt Romney lost Michigan (his birthplace)...lost California (where he went to Stanford and now owns a home); New Hampshire (where he owns a vacation home); and Massachusetts (where he attended Harvard, ran Bain Capital, served as governor, and owns a home).

The Republican power brokers did a great job when they tagged Mr. Romney as their man. They did a great job for the Democrats.


Bernonnsis said...

No, Christopher, I'm not complaining because the Pope is praying that Obama doesn't continue to ruin my country; I'm complaining because the Pope and most of the American bishops smile and shake hands with a man who opposes everything they claim that they stand for. And if Benedict does know what he's doing, then shame on him.

NBW said...

May God help us all! Pray and fast!

Scott Quinn said...

I'm not sure it's correct to pile on Cardinal Dolan. Jesus sat with sinners too. I'm not saying Cardinal Dolan should have, but it's hardly unprecedented. But here's what I don't get: Why isn't Justice Roberts held accountable for his role in upholding the constitutionality of Obamacare? Pelosi, as repulsive as she is, is merely a caricature of a Catholic. Justice Roberts actually pretends to be a faithful Catholic who does not live his life in contradiction to the teachings of the Church. With each electoral defeat the Church loses prestige for her failure to take a stand and declare real people to be within or without the Church. The net result will be a continual loss of adherents to the Church. The neo-pagans will get their victory over the supine wills of Church "leaders." Pathetic.

JTLiuzza said...

I texted my college age daughter yesterday, concluding with "You will have to live your life in a desolate place."

She responded, "Amidst the greatest desolation and the greatest darkness gives rise to the greatest Saints! Bring it on :)"

I sometimes weary of the fight although I would never stop. It's helpful to me to see youthful zeal for the true Faith.

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Anonymous said...

I read in Newsmax that several million evangelical Christians had committed to do 40 days of prayer and fasting for the election. So they were doing something very Catholic while our Cardinal was stuffing his face.

Via Equus Albus said...

Obama with the majority of the Catholic vote!

So much for all of the delusional nonsense about how Vatican II made the laity so conscious about their role in witnessing to the faith in the public arena.

Also, so much for the "munus docendi" of the bishops. You reap what you sew! Damage was severe and wounds still run deep from the years of mixed messages sent by the "Bernardin" bishops that empowered dissenters and wretched nominal Catholic politicians - and thanks especially for the decades of horrible catechesis; I'm sure a lot of 18y/o Catholic school grads pulled the lever for the first time for Obama and for the gay marriage and pot referendums.

Judy Hankel said...

Quit bashing the clergy. The fact is that many Christians, whether Catholic or other denominations, are Christians in name only. We should be voting for pro-life candidates. Obama is not pro-life. We should not be legalizing abortion, same-sex marriage or marijuana use because these are SINS. God's laws always supercede man's laws. Things will not change until we, the people, start obeying God's laws and commandments. Some day we, one-on-one, will have to give an accounting of our lives, and this includes who we vote for. May God have mercy on us. Pray.

I am not Spartacus said...

If you think this election cycle was bad, just wait until you see Timothy Cardinal Dolan yukking it up with Michelle "Lurleen Wallace" when she is the POTUS Candidate in 2016

JTLiuzza said...

I see the "Jesus sat with sinners" thing thrown around a lot. In fact, I think Cardinal Dolan even invoked that one himself.

Seeing as everyone on the planet was a sinner except for Jesus and His Mother, what choice did He have but to "sit with sinners?"

I'm no scripture scholar by any stretch but I don't recall him breaking bread and yukking it up with Herod, Pilate, Caiaphas...

New Catholic said...

GQ Rep, regarding your last comment: do not worry about us. Instead, if you have access to a truly (truly) traditional confessor, we very strongly advise you to speak with him about your decision.

As for the tone of the comments, we were forced to be very permissive in this thread in great part because of your first comment (the second in the thread), which introduced an unexpected latitude of opinion, and generated quite a considerable and understandable backlash.

Adam Michael said...

"I would rather see someone like Obama as President, where you know where he stands....than Romney where we didn't."

Hey, GQRep, quit posing as a world-traveler/cosmopolitan wannabe and be an American for once.

Gratias said...

I was sitting at the Wednesday November 7th General Audience in St. Peter's square, when the man next to me asked about how the election had turned out. I told him Obama won. "Obama non bono per Polski" he replied. I told him: Obama bono per Russia. He said: "Obama bono per Putin".

Most people in Italy were happy about the result because Obama will share American riches with Europe, they think.

Shame on Cardinal Dolan, abortion, euthanasia and Gay marriage will result from his prayer at the Democrat convention and invite to Obama. Two supreme justices as well.