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Cardinal Aviz on LCWR: "Daaaad, they were so mean to me, they didn't tell me anything!"

From NCR:
The Vatican decision last year to place the main representative group of U.S. Catholic sisters under the control of bishops was made without consultation or knowledge of the Vatican office that normally deals with matters of religious life, the office's leader said Sunday.

That lack of discussion over whether to criticize the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), said Cardinal João Braz de Aviz, caused him "much pain."

"We have to change this way of doing things," said Braz de Aviz, head of the Vatican's Congregation for Religious.

"We have to improve these relationships," he continued, referring to the April 2012 order regarding LCWR from the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith -- approved by Pope Benedict XVI -- that ordered the U.S. sisters' group to revise.

"Cardinals can't be mistrustful of each other," Braz de Aviz said. "This is not the way the church should function."

Of course Cardinals should be mistrustful of some other Cardinals. Cardinal Aviz, in particular, was probably the most mysterious name ever chosen by Benedict XVI to head a dicastery. He is just so out of his league in his position, so beneath the seriousness and overall preparedness required of the job, that one simply cannot understand what he is doing there - it would be humorous, were it not tragic. The rumor at the time of his nomination was that Pope Ratzinger asked for a token representative of the largest episcopate in the world following the departure of Cardinal Hummes, and that Avis was the name picked by some of the brightest minds of the local episcopal conference, and Benedict accepted it. Who can forget that Aviz even took part in shouting contests during the conclave?... He thought he was being tough on a Bertone already humbled by the circumstances of the papal resignation, and most Cardinals certainly do not forget that. 

Now, who would wish to submit the decision on matters of the protection of the integrity of the doctrine of the faith, violated every single day by the rebel nuns of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, to the head of dicastery who himself had tried to derail the appropriate investigation started in his own Congregation by his worthy predecessor, Cardinal Rodé? Of course he was kept in the dark - as well he should have, and once again his new "revelation", done out of spite, reveals precisely why he was kept in the dark: his diplomatic skills, indispensable in any kind of "collegial" structure that "Progressives" like him advocate so hard, are clearly as lacking as his managerial competence.

Pope Benedict XVI decided the CDF intervention on the LCWR. Pope Francis, in his first decision on matters of the Doctrine of the Faith, fully confirmed all details decided by his predecessor. Should not this have been enough for Aviz? Or does he think the new Pope's style means who shouts the loudest in the kindergarten wins?

9 comments:

jasoncpetty said...

From Eileen Power's 1924 People of the Middle Ages chapter on Madame Eglentyne: In the Middle Ages all the nunneries of England, and a great many of the monasteries, used to be visited at intervals by the bishop of their diocese--or by somebody sent by him--in order to see whether they were behaving properly. ... First of all, he sent a letter to say he was coming, and to bid the nuns prepare for him. Then he came, with his clerks and a learned official or two, and was met solemnly by the prioress and all the nuns, and preached a sermon in their church, and was entertained, perhaps, to dinner. And then he prepared to examine them, and one by one they came before him, in order of rank, beginning with the prioress, and what they had to do was to tell tales about each other. He wanted to find out if the prioress were ruling well, and if the services were properly performed, and if the finances were in good order, and if discipline were maintained; and if any nun had a complaint, then was the time to make it. And the nuns were full of complaints. A modern schoolgirl would go pale with horror over their capacity for tale-bearing.... All these tales the bishop's clerk solemnly wrote down in a big book, and when the examination was over the bishop summoned all the nuns together again. And if they had answered 'All is well', as they sometimes did, or only mentioned trivial faults, he commended them and went his way; and if they had shown that things really were in a bad way, he investigated particular charges and scolded the culprits and ordered them to amend, and when he got back to his palace, or the manor where he was staying, he wrote out a set of injunctions, based on the complaints, and saying exactly how things were to be improved; and of these injunctions one copy was entered in his register and another was sent by hand to the nuns, who were supposed to read it aloud at intervals and to obey everything in it."

Really the whole chapter is about Nuns Behaving Badly and quite funny.

JabbaPapa said...

This is ridiculous -- Cardinal Aviz clearly has no mandate to resist formal decisions on doctrinal matters emanating from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Ultimately, his complaints are a rejection of the Papal Authority that is invested in the CDF and in this specific decision concerning these rebellious nuns.

alsaticus said...

It is said that cardinal Aviz is in good relationship with pope Francis.

It is also said that the Curia "has to" be reformed.

Cardinal Aviz is clearly alluding to this reform to be decided under the auspices of ... cardinal Maradiaga another "brilliant" member of the Latin American hierarchy.

So it is clear that the Brazilian cardinal is playing the usual card of media pressure on the pope.
Or the other usual card of the calculated leak to the media to prepare the public opinion to some radical change and a possible u-turn with pope Benedict XVI's previous decisions.

UnamSanctam said...

Off topic but urgent help needed.

A friend in England wants to approach her parish priest with a request to have a regular TLM according to the provisions of Summorum Pontificum.

She wants to write in the first instance a letter spelling out the rights the MP gives the faithful in this regard.

Could anyone link me please to materials online - a template maybe for such a letter, covering:

* the relevent texts she would need to quote;

* further comment and/or clarification from Ecclesia Dei on the questions of:

i. The priest's rights and duties when such a request is received;

ii. The definition of what is "a stable group";

iii. Any other quote and its source that will support her in her efforts.

Her diocese is a complete haven of Modernism and nu-Church hostility to authentic Catholicism.

I would find this material useful too as I am also about to request a regular TLM from the Indian Capuchins in charge of the sole Catholic church here in Qatar.

Good luck with that one, Ben.


Benedict Carter

John L said...

"Who can forget that Aviz even took part in shouting contests during the conclave?"

Can we learn more about this?

tradicalorg said...

UnamSanctam,
I tried to start a "kit" as it were, to form a TLM community in an NO parish. I will admit it is very basic and quite new. In the page on my blog there is a link to another "getting started" type article from another site that has additional resources. http://www.tradical.org/forming-a-tlm-community/
I hope some of it is helpful

JabbaPapa said...

Ben :


A friend in England wants to approach her parish priest with a request to have a regular TLM according to the provisions of Summorum Pontificum

Ben, individual Lay catholics have no rights to formally request regular TLM Masses -- only groups of Lay Catholics may do so ; though each individual priest may OTOH decide to provide them irrespective of formal requests from parish groups.

Your friend's first step should be to ensure the support of a large enough group of Catholics expressing interest in a weekly attendance of such Masses.

I would then suggest organising an informal, friendly meeting between this group and the priest.

It should be borne in mind that the priest may not necessarily have the practical ability to provide the TLM, but if all remain open-minded and friendly, he could perhaps be asked if he might be willing to train for it so that it could be provided at a later date ?

Good luck to your friend in her most worthy and pious project !!!

Big Modernism said...

http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2013-0430-c-jackson-ncr-sspx.htm

"What is the key difference between the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) and the SSPX? The LCWR is in “full communion” and holds a canonical status while the SSPX does not. This despite the fact that the SSPX holds fast to everything the Roman Catholic Church has taught and practiced for 2,000 years while, according to the National Catholic Register, the LCWR holds “‘radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith’ and dissent from Church teaching on topics including the sacramental male priesthood and homosexuality.”

gabriel said...

Cardinal Aviz's view of the Curia seems to be that any Curial head can block any initiative- even those of the Holy Father.

That would be the core problem of the Curia- that it exercises power in isolation from the Pope, and interferes with the initiatives of the Pope. We need less of this, not more.