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Freemason defrocked


From AFP and France 24:

A Catholic priest at the posh French ski station of Megeve has been stripped of his functions at the request of the Vatican for being a member of a Masonic lodge, his parish said Friday.

Father Pascal Vesin of the Sainte-Anne d'Arly-Montjoie parish was ordered by the bishop of Annecy, Yves Boivineau, to halt his functions due to his "active membership" of the Grand Orient de France, a large Masonic organisation. 

A statement from the parish said the move had been "made at Rome's request."

It said the bishop had asked Vesin earlier to forsake Freemasonry, which he had refused to do.

In March, the Holy See's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith asked for priest's departure. Three members of the diocese of Annecy then met him but Vesin said he would not quit his membership of the Lodge...

A communique on the home page of the Diocese of Annecy simply states that "a priest of the diocese" (whose name is not mentioned) has been a member of the Grand Orient of France since 2001, and confirms that he has been dismissed at Rome's request.

22 comments:

Athelstane said...

"It said the bishop had asked Vesin earlier to forsake Freemasonry, which he had refused to do."

I confess that I'm astonished to see a bishop today - a French bishop, no less! - would even do this.

Niby filozof said...

This shows Rome hasn't lost the Faith.

skladach said...

"No man can serve two masters...."

Gratias said...

Freemasons are our worst enemies. They have been against the Church since before their French Revolution.

myfairmatron said...

O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee, and for all who do not have recourse to thee, especially for the Freemasons and for those who are commended to thy care.


I am very pleased that Rome took action, but oh, how we need to pray for this man's soul. Thank goodness that it is not too late for him, even if he has shown hardness of heart so far.

poetcomic1 said...

Maybe a tautology... but if he would choose his Masonic Lodge over his church I'm glad he chose the Masonic Lodge!

unusmilitum said...

What about the Freemason president of the French Conference of Catholic Bishops? Has he been removed and if not why not?

Adfero said...

Malta, stop trying to comment, you're banned. Go tell someone else how good looking you are or threaten them with bodily harm. You're done here.

Bernonensis said...

I will give thee the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatsoever thou requesteth on earth it shall be requested in heaven.

Lepanto said...

According to 'Le Nouvel Observateur' the priest said (among other odious things) that, in his view, the ban on dual membership is outdated, that he initially lied to his bishop about being a mason, that the Church should not oppose 'same sex marriage' and that he believes that he will 'be back'. I trust that he won't and I wonder why his previous and publicly expressed thoughts on the pretended marriages of people of the same sex was not sufficient to justify this action. Is it a case of 'three mortal sins and you're out'?

Lepanto said...

PS apparently the Bishop has expressed a willingness to have this man back if he resigns from the Lodge. What about the same sex 'marriage' comments? Don't they matter?

Morgan said...

@Lepanto

You mention the man lied about to his bishop about being a mason, and he went against the teachings of the church re: same sex marriage so he was expelled.

Well, to that I have to say, Rome moved like lightning to get this done so quickly right?

Now how about Rome take on the Hydra that lets these priests think same sex marriage is ok? Where's the MASS firings of the Jesuits who continue to ordain priests (against the will of Pope Benedict16) who are against the Will of the Church.

To that end only I have to ask - anyone seen or read anything about Pope Francis as a counterweight to the BSB/US gay marriage legal issues before the Supreme Court or let's keep it just in the Church: has the new Pontiff cleaned house?

That's all I want to know with no stigma attached to the knowledge - I just can't find out what's going on w/B16's book that Francis obviously knows about and is happening right in his home, yet I don't see anything or hear anything one way or another on what's being done. Are we embracing everyone (as Francis did the atheists) or are we kicking out that quadrant as they aren't CATHOLIC.

Just want to know. That's all I'm asking for - knowledge.

gtaylor said...

Another clergyman doing untold hard for over 12 years before he is eventually kicked out, by his own arrogance. There are, sadly, far too many clergymen who, actually, are not Catholic.
God bless the Pope!

backtothefuture said...

Lower level masons have no clue about the diabolical activities that go one at the top. They'd run fast as possible if they truly knew.

El Padre said...

Well, to be fair, the title of this article is not accurate. He's not "defrocked", because the statement says that, if he's forbidden to celebrate, he still stays a priest nonetheless, and he can come back to church anytime he choses to do so, if he forsakes his activities as a mason. This is a "medicinal" situation, not a punishment as such, but a measure taken to help him realize the incompatibility between his work as a priest and the masonry.
Now, I know him a bit (my parents live in one of his parishes), and I don't think he'll come back, because he's pretty much haughty, and that is the real root of this situation, had he be humble, he wouldn't have become a mason in the first place...

Dr. Timothy J. Williams said...

One down, about 25,000 to go. Things are certainly moving in the right direction now! A New Springtime indeed.

Tony fro Oz said...

All good as far as it goes, but am I the only one who suspects that this priest was only suspended 'at Rome's request' as being shorthand for the bishop being forced to take any action at all?

It seems all of apiece with a similar situation involving removal of a notoriously heterodox priest, Fr Kennedy, by the immediate past Archbishop of Brisbane (John Bathersby) - also at 'Rome's request' - after years of toleration of Fr Kennedy's scandalous heretical capering.

Nevertheless - good move - but I second Dr Williams' motion to move on the remaining '25,000' :). Bring it on!

Tony from Oz

Matthew said...

I am glad this Judas was kicked out. As Dr. Williams says, here is to hoping the other tens of thousands are too.

And, more pertinent, as unusmilitum points out, it is a far more pressing problem that the head of the French Bishops' Conference is an unabashed mason. When will his excommunication be declared and he be stripped of all his office and rank?

douglassbartley said...

The site operators have, it seems, sanitized by omission what Francis has said about Liberation Theology and, more recently, Atheism. Certainly it is within your powers and rights to do that, but I think you should make an announcement to the effect that criticism of Francis's doctrinal revolution is no longer welcome. That would spare those of us who are disturbed by those trends from wasting our time posting material headed for file 13.

Adfero said...

Mr Bartley, we deal with issues, especially pertaining to the pope, our our timeframe not yours. If you're tired of having the same comment not go through over and over, maybe you should stop trying.

Anil Wang said...

Adfero said..."TTT, anyone entering into a sacrament under their rules, is lost."

It's true, but more that are denied marriage due to personal sin (co-habitation, acceptance of contraception, etc) and go elsewhere to get married end up leaving the Church because they are finally honest with themselves. And if they get married outside the Church without realizing that it is a problem, and them want to fix it but get bogged down with paperwork or an indignant spouse that refuses to believe that a marriage didn't take place, they may also drift away. Once out, they are lost and only the prayers of lifetime prayers and penance of St. Monica can bring them back.

If they are within the bosom of the Church, there is hope...especially if priests do their jobs and preach about the hard doctrines and actually care pastorally to bring the stray sheep hope rather than attend galas and issue politically inspired statements on capital punishment and the environment.

For the record, before the Council of Trent, marriages outside the Church were condemned but were considered to be valid. The main reason for the change in policy was to combat clandestine marriages, so as to avoid "remarrying" people who had "clandestine divorces" and in most countries the priests were the only trustworthy registrars. That particular problem no longer exists in most western democracies although there are others (e.g. too many annulments, poor catechesis, etc).

A simple change such as preliminary screening to ensure that the wedding will be valid (or that a marriage outside the Church was valid in the pre-Trent sense), and allowing the pre-Cana teaching to be given post-Cana with the stipulation that it will not be officially registered until either a marriage termination (event of death or secular divorce) or the completion of post-Cana training may be enough to ensure that Catholics stay in the Church and ironically avoid the modern form of clandestine marriages (marriage and divorce outside the Church without the priest knowing and without the poorly catechized Catholic truly knowing it matters and is a salvation issue).

Bwangi Kilonzo said...

Really, Does the Bishop need Rome to ask him to defrock a Freemason? Is it not really clear to the Bishop that this is a man who should not be in charge of care for souls? Or has the priesthood become a job?