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Andrea Tornielli informs today in Il Giornale that the next consistory for the creation of new cardinals will be held on the vigil of the Feast of Christ the King. At least two officers of the Pontifical House would leave their posts before then: Archbishop Piero Marini, Master of Pontifical Liturgical Ceremonies, would be named president of the Pontifical Committee for International Eucharistic Congresses, "substituting Cardinal Tomko in that position"; and the Pope's undersecretary, Ukrainian Mieczyslaw Mokrzycki (called Mietek), also named by Pope John Paul II, would be named Archbishop of Lviv of the Latins.


"Who will be the new cerimoniere? Marini's substitute - who will not be consecrated a Bishop - should be his number two at the Office of Liturgical Celebrations, ... Enrico Viganò."

"The new 'Princes of the Church', in the Roman Curia, should be Leonardo Sandri, new Prefect of the Congregation for Oriental Churches, Giovanni Lajolo, president of the Governatorate, Angelo Comastri, Archpriest of Saint Peter's, Raffaele Farina, Librarian of Holy Roman Church, John Patrick Foley, pro-Grand Master of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre. The residential Italians who will receive the red biretta will be two: the Archbishop of Genoa, Angelo Bagnasco, President of Cei [Italian Episcopal Conference], and the Archbishop of Palermo, Paolo Romeo. Among the great residential sees expecting the porpora in the world, there are: Paris, São Paulo in Brazil, Washington, Warsaw."
Reports of Marini's dismissal from his current position have been numerous in the past two years - all unconfirmed.


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  2. I forget - is the guy anticipated to replace Marini anything worth being excited about? Or can we expect more of the same?

  3. Anonymous2:58 PM

    I hope they get that smirking Marini off camera soon. And out of the liturgy office.

    I think they should make him master of ceremonies in Antarctica. Award him a plane ticket, then a kayak ticket and a big coat and give him a farewell party with pictures in the Vatican Bulletin & the New York Times. Bye bye!!

  4. Anonymous3:33 PM

    Interesting, informative page:

  5. Is the new post for Marini normatively held by a Cardinal, or does it simply happen to be the case that the incumbent is a Cardinal?

  6. Anonymous4:10 PM

    Cerimoniere scripsit...

    "Is the new post for Marini normatively held by a Cardinal, or does it simply happen to be the case that the incumbent is a Cardinal?"


  7. Anonymous4:24 PM

    From the 1909 Catholic Encyclopedia :

    "The presidents of the Permanent Committee of the International Eucharistic Congresses, under whose direction all this progress was made were: Bishop Gaston de Ségur, of Lille; Archbishop de La Bouillerie, titular of Perga and coadjutor of Bordeaux; Archbishop Duquesnay of Cambrai; Cardinal Mermillod, Bishop of Lausanne and Geneva; Bishop Doutreloux of Liège, and Bishop Thomas Heylen of Namur, Belgium."

    See also:

    (By the way: this Commissio is , alas, not listed in the website )

  8. Syriacus,

    that is not really an answer, since the last three Presidents had already been Cardinals before being appointed to the Presidency of the Committee. Since the Committee is much older, and as you now have posted, "mere" Bishops used to be Presidents, the question remains open.
    I'd also be very interested to learn more about Msgr. Viganò. His Christian name does sound promising...

  9. Anonymous4:37 PM

    Genau, Berliner! ...I wrote 'responsum', but the 'dubium' still remains for me too... ;-)

  10. Anonymous7:20 PM

    We all have to remember that this is just speculation, but it is amazing that Andrea Torinelli has been just about 100% accurate in hispredictions/gossip/reports/speculation so far.
    As for Marini, I don't think that post necessarilly has to be a Cardinals posting. It's such a minor position that I wouldn't think He'd be raised to Cardinal in this Consistory. Maybe in the next, or the next, or the next. Hopefully never ! :)
    As for Msgr. Viganò, the very fact that He is listed as Marini's second in command in that office is not a good thing. It means that as Marini's deputy, He's much more like Marini than not.

  11. anonymous,

    while what you say about Msgr. Viganò might be true, we should also consider,
    a) not every "second in command" is necessarily of the same opinion as his superior. See for example Card. Arinze and Abp. Ranjith.
    b) according to the site linked above, Msgr. Viganò is only one of the Ceremonieri, the Dean of them (under Marini) being Msgr. Camaldo.
    Also, from the picture of him from the same site, at least he knows how to fold his hands the correct way. And then there's still the promising first name...

  12. Anonymous11:53 AM

    That's an amazing shower/bath the French bishops have built there...are there any pictures of their chapel?


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