Rorate Caeli

Catechism for Legislators 101

The Pope teaches Madam Speaker:

Following the General Audience the Holy Father briefly greeted Mrs Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, together with her entourage.

His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church’s consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoin all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development.


Paul Haley said...

Deo gratias. He gave her the papal equivalent of a lecture but unfortunately, I fear, she will pay no attention to his words and will continue to pay homage to Lucifer, the Father of Lies. At least there was no award presented to her from the Pope, quite the contrary.

I'm kind of waiting for her to try and make hay out of the fact that the pope received her and her entourage but, if she does, it will backfire as the pope's words will resonate in catholic minds. Madam Pelosi, you received a lecture, tactful though it may be, on your responsibilities in the public arena. What will be your response?

By the way in another forum I posted this message and I'm re-posting it here for maximum attention with the kind permission of our host:

Let's hope that this Sunday, February 22, the Feast of the Chair of St. Peter, he throws the gauntlet down to his enemies, grants faculties to the bishops and priests of the FSSPX and takes one giant step towards the restoration but don't bet on it. Instead, pray on it.

Francesco said...

May the Lord open Speaker Pelosi's eyes through the words of the pope!

A thought:

What is the moral difference between denying the Holocaust and denying the infanticide that has occurred and is still occurring through abortion?

The hypocrisy of the world is glaring.

Anonymous said...

But will 'Madam Speaker' take any notice?

Brian said...

I wonder if Ms. Pelosi tried to debate Catholic teaching with the Pope.

I pray his instruction works its way through her hardened heart and leads her to repentence.

Thank you Holy Father.

Dan Hunter said...


I wonder if Mrs Speaker of the House will convert now and publically repudite her insane views on baby murder?

M.A. said...

And, what was her reaction? How did she respond???

Viva el Papa!

Pablo said...

"Your Holiness, I am a product of the Modernist Church.Why do I offend thee? Is this not the Springtime of Vatican Council II?".

Mrs. Pelosi to the Holy Father.

Jordanes said...

Catholic News Service's story today (which by the way, in so many words, continues the falsehood that pro-abortion legislators shouldn't be denied Communion) says only:

"Pelosi and her staff were not immediately available for comment."

Confiteor said...

Well done, yet one does wonder why the smackdown given to Bishop Williamson was less, shall we say, elliptical?

Why couldn't the Vatican have said that Speaker Pelosi's views are "TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE" to the Sovereign Pontiff?


Kate said...

Following on from Francesco's comment: numerically, there can hardly be any doubt that the abortion holocaust has put to death millions more, worldwide, than the holocaust against the Jews.
Also, the abortion holocaust is directed at the female half of mankind-it has victims beyond the unborn child.

Jordanes said...

Here is Mrs. Pelosi's official statement:

"It is with great joy that my husband, Paul, and I met with His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI today.

"In our conversation, I had the opportunity to praise the church’s leadership in fighting poverty, hunger and global warming, as well as the Holy Father’s dedication to religious freedom and his upcoming trip and message to Israel.

"I was proud to show His Holiness a photograph of my family’s papal visit in the 1950s, as well as a recent picture of our children and grandchildren.”

It seems Mrs. Pelosi attended a different papal audience than the one the Holy Father attended with her.

Anonymous said...

This thing could have been settle years ago. BUT THE Bishop drop the ball in the sprit of Vac II.ONE MUST NEVER CONDEM ANYONE OR HURT THEIR FEELING,ONLY OPEN TO DIALOGUE

Louis E said...

Meanwhile,is the implied concentration on abortion and perhaps euthanasia indicative that the conversation did not even touch on her professed desire to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and promote all possible acceptance of same-sex sexual relationships?

Is the Pope trusting Archbishop Niederauer to tackle that issue in the conversation with her to which she was invited but has not thus far been reported to have taken place?His Excellency doesn't seem to care that his see city is seen as the national capital of a Biblically condemned practice,governed by those who revel in forbidding any criticism thereof,so the Pope should have taken time to mention it.

Not that I'm saying it would have sunk in...Pelosi would probably have thought to herself,"What are a few measly Biblical prohibitions and direct teachings of a Pope or archbishop compared to the perpetual indulgence I have from the `Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence' as long as I perpetually indulge them?...just let word get out that the mean old church is being bigoted,and my poor persecuted constituents will fill the Castro with demonstrators,in faithful obedience to those well-formed consciences just bursting out of their pants..."
and she'd have called that voice her "conscience".

Confiteor said...

... as well as the Holy Father’s dedication to religious freedom ...


Please, Holy Father, make haste to grant faculties to the SSPX.

Anonymous said...

Can't expect your bishops to act against politicians when the Pope doesn't. He should have made her renounce her pro-abortion record publicly as she has publicly advocated it.

Dan Hunter said...

This was definitely a rebuke from the Holy Father to M. Pelosis insane stance on supporting child murder,
unless M Pelosi reverses her stance on infanticide before presenting herself for Holy Communion in DC, this Sunday, Bishop Wuerl will prove that he is no longer Catholic.
I am serious.
The Holy See does not have to make a formal pronouncement on this.
If she presents herslf to the priest at the communion railing in a state of public unrepentance. the Ordinary of that diocese has ceased to function as a Catholic.

Anonymous said...

Expect NOTHING to change. Arbps. Niederaur and Wuerl will continue to give her Communion. They won't DARE upset the status quo. What, and risk alienation from the D.C. cocktail party circuit?? Are you nuts???

Ponte said...

She won't pay any attention. She'll blow off or spin the Pope's words and give the same tired Kennedyesque phrases as she is advised by selective rotten Jesuits.

Pelosi did not need to be taught, she knows what the Church teaches. The issue is that for her Catholicism is for a mere and selective show; you can almost picture her in her first holy communion dress as she talks about how "ardent" she is in her faith. Her real religion is politics and the pro-death agenda. And for that regard, I pray that she doesn't full well know what she is doing to her soul.

Ponte said...

P.S. Archbishop Wuerl will never do anything and I hope he is never made a cardinal. I want to say more but I don't want to be uncharitable in what I really think his issues are.

St. Rafael said...

The pope's rebuke will mean nothing to these Judas Catholics. They will continue on with their evil.

I am disapointed with the Pope. Does here really think a verbal rebuke is the way to deal with apostates and heretics? He is dealing with devils.

What is needed in a Papal ultimatum. Repentence or excommunication.

The Pope should give these legislators a certain date to think it over. No repentence by a certain date would trigger a public formal excommunication.

LeonG said...

I wonder what Pope St Pius X would have done if he had been in the same position?

LeonG said...

Unfortunately, the words of the Holy Father are disappointingly over-measured to the point of neutrality. For a postmodernist neo-catholic politician who has no properly formed Roman Catholic conscience "human life" means that which exists outside the womb.

It has to be understood that there will never be any grand gestures of condemnation (or excommunication) because the post-conciliar church does not do this, unless one is a traditionalist, although this is a policy now in reversal. Moreover, as Rome and its ecclesiastical provinces are frequently mired in sexual scandals and abuse with cover-ups on a systemic scale, few would dare single out important secular individuals since this may entice embarrassing revelations by return.

It is piteous to have to admit this but as one US attorney is reported to have stated not so long ago to a neo-catholic bishop who was testifying rather moralistically in court, the bishop was in no position to be giving him a moral lecture. Tragically, therefore, it really is long past the time when the house should have been put in order but then who is actually in a position to do this whose reputation has not already been besmirched with suspicion, one way or another?

To state that the person concerned is a supporter of abortion which runs in direct violation of church law, which considers this an act of murder and entails excommunication would be simpler and more to the point. However, this goes against the post-conciliar grain which we are being reassured represents continuity and certainly no rupture with the church's past.

Anonymous said...

"one does wonder why the smackdown given to Bishop Williamson was less, shall we say, elliptical?"

The Williamson smackdown didn't appear immediately.

Maybe 10 days from now the smackdown will be less elliptical.

Joe B said...

He can't excommunicate them all. What is needed is a reform of the priesthood, but that usually takes the leadership of a great saint. But here's the rub - the Novus Ordo doesn't breed saints. Nonetheless, he or she is probably out there somewhere.

The greatest lament of our age - where's our great saint?

Anonymous said...

I must have missed something. When was the decree of excommunication imposed on Mrs. Pelosi? There must have been one. No just pope would excommunicate bishops for consecrating priests bishop without approval and yet not excommuicate a lawgiver and public figure of note for supporting the murder of the babe in the womb. Such a figure as Pelosi could be emulated by others. Am I missing something? This Pope received her and then did not impose any canonical penalty on her. The impression I get is one of approval. Harsh words tend not to be very effective: stop!, or I'll say 'stop!' again!

Excommunication is a medicinal remedy and Mrs. Pelasi is sick in the head and sick in her soul. The doctor needs to provide some robust remedy.


St. rafael said...

"The greatest lament of our age - where's our great saint?"

That is the question today. I believe we lost a saint and a doctor of the Church with the passing of Archbishop lefebvre.

Bishop Fellay is our most visible saint today, but the thing is all the saints today are hidden.

They are the priests in the SSPX and FSSP.

The other saints are the heroic priests all over the world working underground outside the structures of the Church. All the great independent priests keeping the faith alive in the catecombs for the the remnant of their flocks.

hopingforheaven said...

The Holy Father, most likely even the Lord Jesus Himself, can not usurp her free will and she has sold her soul for her power at this point in time. Public confession would be needed on this one because of the world wide scandal she has given.

We can pray for her conversion