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New "Ecclesia Dei" website

The Pontifical Commission "Ecclesia Dei" (Vatican office responsible for relations with Traditionalist communities in irregular situation, according to the motu proprio "Ecclesia Dei", and for the full application of the motu proprio "Summorum Pontificum") has launched its new website:

It is to be expected that this will be the website that will be updated henceforth (and not the previous website). Tip: Messa in Latino.


Anonymous said...

I counselled bloggers here to watch for certain dates, the first being 5th May, the Feast of St. Pius V. There was hope that Benedict XVI had signed something (most likely a clarification of "Summorum Pontificum") but had merely delayed publication until after the close of his trip to the Levant. But I must now say that there is almost no chance that this happened, or we'd have publication by today. There is still a slim chance that he's waiting until the trip is in the rear view mirror, so to speak. But remote. He would not want a signed date of 5th May for the same reason he'd not want a publication date of 5th May.

So I admit that those here were right who said, quite sensibly, that the Pope would not even make oblique reference to tradition shortly before, during, or for some time after the trip. It seems as if the press really does dictate everything now. Diplomacy is all. Nothing must be done to remind anyone of the Williamson Affair. It might anger the Jews, as we musn't do that. I noticed that one of their chief rabbis reminded the Pope in public about Williamson and 'thanked' him for agreeing not to allow Williamson to 'exercise ministry'. The Pope did not respond to this. It is as if the rabbi were telling the Pope what he daren't do when he returns to Rome.

But perhaps we should concentrate more on what the rabbis in Jerusalem did *not* repeat: they did not repeat a demand that the excommunication declared against W. in 1988 be restored.

Dates to watch for:

27th or 28th May (date was changed from old to N.O. calendar): Feast of St. Augustine of Canterbury: Perhaps something for the TAC. If so, I would expect something preliminary. Given the TAC's logistical, financial, and personnel problems, I would expect the formation of a Roman Commission to initiate a transition period. It would prepare them for entry and continue to accommodate them (e.g. liturgically) to the Church for some time thereafter.

29th June: Feast of SS. Peter & Paul and one day prior to the unapproved consecrations of 1988: Perhaps some decree in relation to the S.S.P.X's faculties or Masses. But it likely wouldn't be published on that day because the spotlight must be focused on the usual greeting from Constantinople. Give it a few days.

7th July: 2nd anniversary of Summorum Pontificum: Perhaps some sort of clarification, the one now on the Pope's bureau for over a year. It might possibly include a public declaration of the status of Society Masses.

Third Sunday in July: Feast of the Holy Redeemer on the Redemptorist calendar: Canonical structure for the Sons of the Holy Redeemer.

3rd September: Feast of St. Pius X: Perhaps a grant of faculties for the Society, but it would likely exclude Williamson and 'others' who, in future, express 'polemical and imprudent' statements about this and that. It will be diplomatically awkward to exclude W. but we must also consider that the four original bishops are not cast in stone for ever.

Again, I am wondering what will become of the P.C.E.D. upon Darío Cardinal Castrillón's retirement. First we heard that it would be absorbed into the C.D.W. Then, in response to the S.S.P.X's demands, the Cardinal himself (who turns 80 in July) said that it will become a department of the C.D.F., since the talks with the Society now depend on doctrine. This accords with the primary purpose of the P.C.E.D. as outlined in John Paul II's motu proprio "Ecclesia Dei Adflicta".

The problem is that the P.C.E.D. has another function which is not doctrinal but strictly liturgical and legal. I mean oversight of "Summorum Pontificum" as mentioned in Article 12 of that apostolic letter. Where will responsibility for this go? If not to the C.D.F., it might go a new universal bishop for tradtion (in an apostolic administration) or to an apostolic delegate of the Pope. There is no way that this power will be ceded to the local ordinaries and I can't see how it would be appropriate to exercise a matter of liturgical law in the Congregation devoted to doctrine. Is something more afoot? Is the Cardinal hinting at this indirectly?


Dan Hunter said...


With all due respect for your regular comments [and they are one of the reasons I come to Rorate Caeli frequently] What do all these dates matter?

Since when does the Holy Father, in the last 5 years, issue momentous desicions of tradition on specific dates in the Roman Calendar?

The most recent big move was the lifting of the excommunications on the Feast of St Agnes, Jan 21, I believe.
Please correct me if I am wrong on this.

Anonymous said...

Great. A new site with nothing on it.

Anonymous said...

"Great. A new site with nothing on it.

No news or anything. LOL!!

Anonymous said...

Mr. Hunter:

"Summorum Pontificum" was issued on 7 July, 2007. The Americans quite wrongly use a month-day-year format (except for their national holiday, which they still correctly call the Fourth of July and not 'July the Fourth'). The rest of the world uses the correct day-month-year format. (For example, today is 18/05/09 in my country.)

But no matter which system you use, the date for that momentous document was 7-7-07. Three sevens. Very significant symbolically for reasons we all know. And very memorable too.

Before the excommunications were lifted, I predicted on this blog that something significant would likely come during the Octave of Unity instituted by Benedict XV, after whom this Pope named himself. The Octave was to pray for unity of outsiders with Rome. Unity? S.S.P.X & Rome. Not a coincidence.

This Pope seems to like significant dates, and it is traditional for the Church to mark commemorations.


Anonymous said...

On Anon.'s comments:

Sir Humphrey Appleby, were he only with us today, would say that the purpose of a website is not to divulge information but to conceal it. It is designed to distract people away from the critical information by relating all sorts of things nobody cares about. Most diocesan websites avoid listing all their priests' names, for example, so that angry parents of abused children can't track down the transferred abusers.

When websites first appeared, in the last five years of the previous century, they were goldmines of information. But it didn't take long before the 'controllers' learnt that you can restrict data so as to convey deceptive information, distracting people from unpleasant facts and exaggerating the goods proffered.


Oliver said...

Someone here is casting the runes rather feverishly. The Commission is just an empty vessel for tired timid trads to squeeze into in the believe that it is the engine for the restoration of the Church. The reality however is that of a holding pen for trads slow in transition to the new religion where they can play their costume games while they slowly and unwittingly embibe doses of reformed theology. The Invasion of the Body Snatchers comes to mind. Those mythical doctrinal negotiations we keep hearing about between the SSPX and modern Rome also reminds me of the phoney war during WW2. I wonder how long it will be before Bishop Williamson get restless and breaks out of his temporary self-imposed exile. We are in need of some more sharp reminders of what the world really is and how institutionalised religion has surrendered to it.