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Priest forced to abandon Latin Mass community - Brazil

From a Brazilian reader:

Father Nildo Leal de Sá, of the Archdiocese of Olinda and Recife, was practically forced to abandon more than one hundred catholics who love the Traditional Mass. He celebrated his last Mass for the community this Sunday, announcing he had to leave the community, "due to personal reasons". Father Nildo had celebrated the Mass even before the Motu Proprio, by indult of the former Archbishop, José Cardoso Sobrinho, now retired

Archbishop Fernando Saburido, tied to Liberation Theology and current bishop, is according to some rumors, the one man responsible for all the pressure which has led to this disaster.

Arrangements are being made in order to alert the Pontifical Commission "Ecclesia Dei" through ordinary means. But we need more publicity about this issue.

More information about the matter, in Portuguese:

19 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:17 PM

    This is a major disaster. Recife is a huge city.

    Just as the liberals are our enemies on the groud and in liturgy, they are enemies in belief as well. Liberation Theology: only a variety of Marxist-Leninism.

    It is because the Modernist believe different things that they worship differently. It is they who have introduced innovations through their inexperts at the Second Vatican Council. Until Rome expunges these errors from the conciliar documents, there can be no peace and no reconciliation.

    Some, like Jordanes, who wants there to be harmony between what the Church has always taught and what Vatican II's non-infallible doctrines misteach, will continue to dream of a union of opposites. It cannot be. Truth and error cannot embrace; spirituality and socialist materialism cannot meet and kiss.

    At best, there can be a temporary and imperfect peace for purely prudential reasons, followed by more conflict. He came not to bring peace but a sword.

    I presume that this Latin Mass community in Brazil will petition for a continuation of its Mass. After all, it is a 'group', just like the Beatles.


    P.K.T.P.

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  2. Anonymous9:55 PM

    Gran estupor. ¿Hasta cuando la persecución a los que cometen el 'grave error' de amar la liturgia tradicional?. Clama el cielo por la incomprensión 'ideológica'de parte (o gran parte)del clero. Lamentable. Gabriel (Argentina)

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  3. I've never been to or been invited to a party like that, Mr. Perkins, and I wouldn't go even if invited.

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  4. Anonymous9:56 PM

    Estupor. ¿Hasta cuando? Clama el cielo por la persecución 'ideológica' de parte (o gran parte) dl clero. Gabriel (Argentina)

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  5. A quien clamamos? La direcion?

    To whom should we cry out? What is the address?

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  6. Benedicta1:07 AM

    Didn't the Good Sheperd have to leave Brazil too?

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  7. Prof. Basto2:14 AM

    Why is there such a strong opposition whithin the Church Herself against one of her approved Rites - a Rite (or form of a Rite) that is ancient, that is noble, that nourished many Saints?

    Clearly, this persecution of the Traditional Mass, even after all statements and decrees from the Holy See authorizing its legitimate celebration (the mention already in Ecclesia Dei of the "legitimate aspirations" and the call to a generous application; the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum that currently governs the use of the Rite, the Letter to the Bishops on the promulgation of the Motu Proprio, etc), shows us that the Enemy is most afraid of that powerful Rite.

    The Devil wants to deprive the Christian faithful of this Rite at all costs, and he uses his pawns (the liberal, left wing, marxist priests and bishops) as tools in his unworthy project. Sadly, the majority of the Brazilian Episcopate is part of the "Smoke of Satan" that still clouds the halls of the Sanctuary of Holy Mother Church.

    The Brazilian Episcopate is in need of urgent reform, and that reform must include not only new appointments but also a reduction of the number of Sees, to allow for the establishment of a more careful selection process.

    Ierusalem, Ierusalem, convertere ad Dominum Deum tuum.

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  8. Anonymous5:21 AM

    Benedicta:

    The Institute of the Good Shepherd has indeed been under a lot of pressure in Latin America, but it persists. It is persisting in Chile and in Colombia. The F.S.S.P. needs a larger presence. Only one diocese (Girandot) and one additional one in Colombia to come and that's it for everything south of Mexico.

    Latin America is the heart of the Church: almost one half all faithful are Latin Americans. The Latin Mass is barely visible there. It is doing better in Brazil than elsewhere but not by much. Half of Brazil's Masses are in or near Campos. Then there are a few in the huge cities of Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, Belo Horizonte, Recife--no more!

    I've heard that one bishop in Brazil has a hammer and sickle on his episcopal heraldic shield. It is true! I saw his picture and the shield on the Internet. But he might be a retired bishop, I'm not sure. He looked old.

    As Cecil Rhodes said in a different context, "So little done, so much to do".

    P.K.T.P.

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  9. Anonymous7:10 AM

    Shuffling priests around the diocese is a routine practice. Under Summorum Pontificum, the faithful have to ask the pastor of the parish to supply them with another priest who says the traditional Mass.

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  10. Anonymous11:31 AM

    Do not hold your breath for a response from Rome. We here ( scotland) have been waiting for many months, and not even an acknowledgement of our letters yet.

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  11. Anonymous12:08 PM

    We have all kinds of "ethnic" masses. Afro mass, indian mass, country mass, Eastern mass, and so forth. The only ethnic mass that is forbbiden to Catholics is the traditional latin mass.

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  12. Bruno Luís Santana1:29 PM

    If all the priests after persecution would enjoy FSSPX, at least the Vatican could blame their bishops...
    I'm pround the priest of my archidiosese (Salvador/Bahia/Brazil) decided to leave and has opened a monastery, 40 years ago, near the city. After many years, he understood the whole problem and now is a friend of FSSPX. So, he's not formely a FSSPX priest, but his comunity is 100% catholic, and with no liberalism, and he lives as the archidiocese didn't exists, and the archidiocese do the same thing.

    Saint Benedict lefts Rome and decided to save his soul. Pehaps the solution is to keep the faith and do no accept stay near the heresy...

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  13. Anonymous2:23 PM

    Write Rome, wait endlessly for responses, and fight for the TLM...Sure, that is not the idea behind SP. If Bishops and Priests are continuing to obstruct the MP then unless Rome calls for the EF to be formally celebrated in every parish and taught in Seminaries, it will continue to be a warzone. Once declared to be instituted everywhere, after a few years this will all die down and the Church, Mass and Priesthood will begin to right itself. Left to their own devices, the last 3 years have taught us much about how the Bishops function. Endless streams of reports of obstruction and intimidation abound. Just require 1 Mass in every parish by 2015 and that will go alon way to effecting what the MP is about. To re-integrate the TLM back into the life of the Church and to benefit souls. Why put the faithful in a position that they have to square off with a Bishop or Priest in order to follow and implement the MP. This is an unfair burden on the Faithful. Do they really want the problems to go away? Rome sometimes makes you wonder.

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  14. Anonymous2:53 PM

    Archbishop Fernando Antônio Saburido, O.S.B.
    Archbishop of Olinda e Recife, Pernambuco

    Events

    Date/Age/Event/Title

    10 Jun 1947 63.09 Born Cabo de Santo Agostinho

    21 Mar 1978 30.8 Professed Member of Order of Saint Benedict

    17 Dec 1983 36.5 Ordained Priest Priest of Order of Saint Benedict

    31 May 2000 53.0 Appointed Auxiliary Bishop of Olinda e Recife, Pernambuco, Brazil

    31 May 2000 53.0 Appointed Titular Bishop of Tacia Montana

    20 Aug 2000 53.2 Ordained Bishop Titular Bishop of Tacia Montana

    18 May 2005 57.9 Appointed Bishop of Sobral, Ceara, Brazil

    1 Jul 2009 62.1 Appointed Archbishop of Olinda e Recife, Pernambuco, Brazil

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  15. Anonymous3:16 PM

    There is just so much evil in the church--it is so daunting! While, in the end the gates of hell will not prevail, how much will continue to be lost. The bishops have been tearing down the church brick by brick. Nothing stops them: sexual scandals, financial scandals, waning congregations! If something does not change, every diocese will have only a handful of churches, no schools, no hospitals. This is already true in my own diocese, where now there are no Catholic hospitals, few Catholic schools, and dosens of closed church, some of which have been profanized will episcopal blessings! I think the only possible thing that may help, in addition to prayer, is an organized, grass roots movement for a financial boycott of the church in order to save the church. The money and power given to these weak, poorly formed bishops corrupts them so easily. If their money is taken away, then some of their power is taken away. We must do something!

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  16. Joe B3:18 PM

    The war is just warming up. We're still being polite and playing by the rules on the traditional side. I agree with P.K.T.P., if I am interpreting him correctly, that the Novus Ordo and traditional masses cannot coexist on a universal scale, and so one must die. I'm not even sure they can coexist successfully in the same parish church, as the Novus Ordo side will generally so limit the development of a traditional community that it will never grow to the level of fervor that it needs to - taking over the life of the community. Even FSSP prefers their own parishes, and for good reason.

    But we aren't even close to killing the Novus Ordo yet. We're not even talking about it. Sentiments of coexistence and 'just give us the mass once a week' predominate, but that will not save the church.

    The traditional mass has shown it isn't going to die (or surely it already would have), so at some point, this is either going to take a huge intervention of Heaven or it is going to get violently ugly. The fangs of those who hate tradition have not yet resorted to murder (I don't think), but they will. It's Satan's way, you know. Tradition-defending Priests, watch your backs.

    Either way, Divine intervention or war, we ain't seen nothin' yet.

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  17. Anonymous5:34 PM

    One anonymous poster here called for the T.L.M. to be offered in every parish church. Much as I would love to see this, it is a pipedream at this point. We must keep in mind that over 95% of the faithful are barely or not even aware that the T.L.M. is an option today. Worldwide, less than one-quarter of one per cent of Masses in the Latin Church are T.L.M.s.

    For the shorter term, the objectives should be as follows:

    1. An interpretation from Rome of Article 1 of S.P. to the effect that, whenever there is one group in a diocese requesting the T.L.M., it must be supplied as soon as possible at least once in the diocese every Sunday and on every current holyday of obligation.

    2. Secondly, regarding the same article, every diocese in the Latin Church must offer AT LEAST one T.L.M. every Sunday and holyday, beginning by 14 September, 2013. This requirement obtains even if nobody in the diocese requests this Mass.

    3. Owing to 2 ut supra, all the seminaries must teach the Traditional Latin Mass, and every diocese needs to train some existing priests to be ready for the 14 Sept., 2013 deadline, a deadline, remember that is overriden in event that any group requests this Mass in a particular see.

    4. Nothing in the foregoing limits Article 5, in which there must be favourable consideration of petitions in each parish to offer the T.L.M.

    5. Masses of the S.S.P.X be recognised publicly at law as fulfilling the Sunday obligation.


    This is a more reasonable project. At the moment, just getting one every-Sunday T.L.M. per diocese in the world is a HUGE undertaking. At least 99% of African sees do not have any T.L.M.s on any basis. That per centage is likely about 98% for Asia, 90% for South America, 99% for Mexico & Central America, 100% for the Caribbean. It is also over 90% for Eastern & Central Europe. Even in other continental areas, a very large per centage of sees have no T.L.M.s at all. So we need to get them at least once per diocese every Sunday first.

    P.K.T.P.

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  18. I am from this latin mass community. In fact, the problem was the pressure of the bishop. Not an official pressure, but a kind of diary bullyng made to the priest and the faithful by other priests and some seminarians from the archdiocese.

    It is good to note that many of the faithful of this community also help novus ordo parishes. I, for example, have 30 years old and since my 15´s help a downtown parishe, taking care of the liturgy, catechesis and evangelization with junkies and prostitutes. Would this not evidence enough of unity? What the bishop wants more?

    What happened was devastating. The men were speechless, women wept. Even the priest then wept. I started fighting for the implementation of the Mass in the gregorian rite in 1997 (with 17 years old) and now I see everything collapse. I'm also crying.

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  19. UPDATE (Tuesday): We actually tried to do our Brazilian readers a favor by bringing this situation to the attention of Catholics around the world. Though we merely translated a message sent by a reader, we have been accused of "misundestanding" the situation.

    So, let us be clear: (1) Father N. Leal de Sá WAS indeed forced to abandon the Latin Mass community. He was either forced by way of a direct threat or by circumstances beyond his own control. That is indeed a very common situation around the world, and the Recife lay faithful should not be shy about it. The priest himself may have been forced to be discreet, but that does not mean the lay faithful need to be disingenuous.

    (2) Naturally, there was an order from a hierarchical superior. It may well have been an indirect order, but there was an order - otherwise, if it were indeed a merely personal matter, the priest would have immediately announced his replacement. The priest could naturally have resisted it (cf. Summorum Pontificum). But there was an order. Once again, the priest is in a very delicate position, and he is quite right if he wishes to be discreet; but, once again, some lay faithful do not need to be disingenuous.

    (3) We deeply resent the use of the phrase "tradutore traditore" by a Brazilian website, since, other than the Recife faithful who first contacted us on Monday, and considering our wide experience in translating from Portuguese, we have more than enough experience regarding such matters in order to know that "personal reasons" are merely a codeword for "being forced by circumstances to act otherwise". As said before, we understand the priest's attitude, but some lay faithful need to wise up to certain events which are far from exclusive to one diocese or one nation.

    (4) We will write more on this "Second Recife Affair" soon enough.

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