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Why Catholic blogs are necessary...

Because some of the "institutional" news sources are filled with lies and dissent. We usually are quite restrained in our views (believe us, we are restrained!), and we must admit we would prefer if blogs by Catholics on Catholic matters, even if advisable or meritorious, were not exactly necessary. But they become necessary because of things like this - when presenting a Greenpeace-style call to "Save the Altar Girls", America, a self-described "Jesuit Magazine" and a "National Catholic Weekly" (only two of which words are true), says:

Inevitably the issue of women’s roles in the church raises the question of women’s ordination to the priesthood. Recently a cardinal in Lisbon and some bishops in Brazil, among others, also raised the question; but since Pope Benedict XVI, despite continued agitation, has reaffirmed the policy of John Paul II to allow no discussion of the topic, the matter of altar servers must be considered a separate and independent issue.

It is the typical lying-reinforcement technique: if you call it a "policy" often enough and long enough, it will be seen as a "policy", and not as the perennial, constant, and absolutely irreformable doctrine that it is, that "requires definitive assent, since, founded on the written Word of God, and from the beginning constantly preserved and applied in the Tradition of the Church, it has been set forth infallibly by the ordinary and universal Magisterium," and that "is to be held always, everywhere, and by all, as belonging to the deposit of the faith." (Interestingly enough - and perhaps unwittingly? - they reveal the whole problem of altar girls: yes, it does raise "the question of women's ordination to the priesthood"; is it appropriate that a mere liturgical allowance for one form of one of the rites of the Church will daily undermine the reasoning of the Magisterium, or is that just par for the course for the New Liturgy?)

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16 comments:

beng said...

"continued agitation" <---- ?!??!?


Well, the use of words speaks volume.

Fred said...

"... or is that just par for the course for the New Liturgy?"

Isn't that just of those questions that answers itself in the asking?

Anonymous said...

We really do restrain ourselves. If our readers knew how many times NC stopped me from posting some rant of mine, you'd know how restrained we are!

Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

What a choice of a photo for Our Holy Father. I can just hear them snickering, "Pretty in Pink," as Pope Benedict XVI, wearing Rose for either Gaudete or Laetare ("L" is in Lent is a mnemonic from the old days), so as to make him appear defeated by the mephitic modernists who are 100% in Full Communion with him.

With "friends" like these, he truly needs The SSPX.

I'd LOVE to see them in the Jurisdiction of an SSPX Bishop.

We know one thing for certainty, absent the application of Ecclesiastical Discipline, chaos will continue to rain during his reign.

Jack said...

This is not the first picture I've seen of a female carrying (or dancing?) with a pot of smoking incense.

Question: Why do this, but NOT use incense properly according to the usual liturgical customs of the Western rites, namely at the Entrance, Gospel, and Offertory?

Most holy Theotokos, save us.

Anonymous said...

The reply from the rector in the comments box there is most interesting.

Anonymous said...

"Why do this, but NOT use incense properly according to the usual liturgical customs of the Western rites, namely at the Entrance, Gospel, and Offertory?"

We are dealing with people who despise Holy Tradition. They are not interested in "usual liturgical customs."

They come across as bored people who feel the need to be "relevant" at each Mass.

Their boredom spurs them to seek endless change.

In turn, they bore us with their banal approach to liturgy.

They are skilled at emptying churches.

Tom

Anonymous said...

You're right NC, there is a deliberate action in order to get people used to women "priests" : altar girls, then deaconesses then ...

They're copy-cat of the decaying Church of England.
That being said, we must recall that the surrender on this topic came from inside the Curia when the Council for the interpretation of legislative texts found amusing to contradict bluntly what the popes, in particular John Paul II, had written on the subject.

Alsaticus

New Catholic said...

True, Alsaticus, quite sad. Some cardinals considered this bizarre allowance one of the "highlights" of the Wojtylian years - it is unlikely that even the then-reigning Pontiff thought so...

Unknown said...

Why the fascination with being disobedient? I wonder if these people are so understanding when their kids are so. I'd bet not.

Seriously though, the misguided view of this being a pre v. post Vatican II issue (Limbaugh style) is tired and just plain inaccurate. I'm pretty sure that 1994 came WAAAAAAAYYYYY after 1965. I'm just sayin'.

Also, why should we continue to stand for this? Why don't we write letters to our bishops and state that service at the altar isn't a right and that the use of boys is laudable. Also, why don't we include the argument that simply because the light is yellow, it doesn't necessarily mean that we need to speed through the intersection. Also, why don't we include the strong plea for an increase in vocations and that we will do what is necessary (short of bankrolling seminarians) to promote vocations, ergo the letter to the bishop. It should become frighteningly obvious that when females are removed from the sanctuary, vocations will rise.

Case in point, what are the two fastest growing seminaries in the USA? Denton and Winona. Coincidence? I don't think so.

shane said...

First rule of leadership: everything is your fault! (To quote...err...A Bug's Life.) Pope John Paul II could have modified the Code of Canon Law to explicitly preclude the practice; sadly he was a very weak pope and open to manipulation. (I have never understood why so many people consider him a 'conservative'.)

The last 40 years in the Church have been a complete waste of time.

Anonymous said...

SHane, you ought to talk to some people who are older than you, who remember what was happening. Or heck, just buy a book published by TAN press between 1975 and 1985 and you'll get a sense for how far we've come.

Anonymous said...

Jack, I first saw a pic of a woman with a pot of incense at the rededication of St Francis Xavier Church in NYC with Arch Bishop Dolan presiding. She had no shoes on, wore a robe and held high a pot of incense as she stood on the altar. Bishop Dolan presided by spreading oil on the altar whilst wearing a leather apron. We all know who takes as their symbol the apron. I hope never to see anything like that in person.

Anonymous said...

"@ THE EDITORS:

From your mouths to God's ears. I am sure She is listening."

If it weren't so sad, disheartening and heretical, some of these comments (above included) on the article would be funny.

May God bless Very Rev. John Lankeit, and may God have mercy on those who persecute him, and the Holy Church, for their own ideological wants.

Reluctant Pessimist said...

"[Archb]ishop Dolan presided by spreading oil on the altar whilst wearing a leather apron. We all know who takes as their symbol the apron."

Interesting and apt. I wonder whether His Grace stores the apron in the same wardrobe with his old Packers' cheesehead.

Dymphna said...

Are you sure it was a leather apron? I know what to think about Archbishop Dolan but this seems to be a bit much.