I thought about the contents of the site and what it may look like and what it may say, etc., before going to it. Well, I went to it and already it began badly. The first thing that pops up is a box asking for User's name and Password. No option, no instruction on how to sign up for it. It's just there.I can't imagine what would be on that website one would need to sign up for. This is something already in poor taste.
I'm not sure what Matt is going on about, but the link does require a username and password.
Strange. Probably just a webmaster error. It does happen. Anyone really interested could just try again in a few hours.
It has been pointed out by someone who knows Latin (I don't) that the correct English translation would be "Year of The Faith", not "Year of faith". Louis
Matt, this has nothing to do with the site itself but is a problem of internet technology. It's possible that you are attempting to access the site through a university's or corporation's internet system, which means that there may be interference between the Year of Faith site and your proxy server. I was able to access this site from home but was _not_ able to access it from my workplace. Contact your service provider and they may have some information on why this is happening. It will probably be fixed from the vatican side in a few days, as I am sure that you and I are not the only ones having this trouble.
Shoot -- I posted my last comment as anonymous, but I meant to indicate my name: Smithbridge Wells
Louis, your friend is mistaken. The site could be translated _either_ as the "Year of Faith" or "Year of the Faith," just as the "Annus Virtutis" could be translated as the "Year of Virtue" or as the "Year of The Virtue." If someone wanted to specify "the" faith, they could try "Annus Illi Fidei," although in English it would translate more closely to "The Year of That Faith." Latin doesn't make explicit the English distinction between specific ("the faith") and generic ("faith") nouns.If you want to know the intentions of the organizers, consult the Italian on the vatican website.The "Year of Faith" refers to "Faith" as the exercise of the supernatural virtue of Faith that Christians receive at Baptism.If it were the "Year of The Faith," the title would refer instead to the proximate objects of faith -- i.e. the dogmas; or the distal objects of faith -- i.e. the inner life of God.However, I think that the emphasis is here on the _exercise_ of Christian faith -- which has been a major theme of Pope Benedict's pontificate.
Every year is a "year of the faith." I don't know any other way to perceive time except IN our Holy Catholic Faith. I must say, I find this idea banal in the extreme. I'm sure it will mean something to some...and I'm glad of it. Hope it helps their lives. But I find it so generic as to be somewhat childishly embarrassing. IMHO.
Louis, it's an intrinsic problem in translation. In many languages (Latin being one) that don't use articles the way English does, there isn't any difference between "Year of The Faith" and "Year of faith". It has to be inferred from context.Craig
Well, on the list of consultants there were names of founders (or heads)from the ecclesial movements such as Focolarini, NCW, Nuovi Orrizonti ...I didn't recognise any names that could have represented the Traditional sphere - Among the ecclesiatics listed were Cardinals Schonborn and Ravasi..... maybe someone will recognise some of the other names that might represent Tradition ... before I decide to be depressed...
No problems accessing it here. Perhaps just a workplace computer problem like Smithbridge said. Although I'm looking at it from a Department of Defense computer and if it works on these infernal machines I'd expect it would work on anything...
Yes, "Year of THE Faith" would have been much better, and it was the chosen translation in other languages, this was discussed here early on.There seems to be no problem with the website. I would quite willingly sign and proclaim (well, we actually do proclaim it in every Mass the Creed is said or sung) the proposed Profession of Faith...
Umm, I did not have to sign up..thanks for the link.
From the press conference today; quiet your foolin', authorresaurus:"The Year of Faith aims, above all, to support the faith of believers who, in their daily trials, never cease to entrust to entrust their lives to the Lord Jesus, with courage and conviction. Their precious testimony, which does not make the news, ... is what enables the Church to present herself to the world today, as she did in the past, supported by the strength of the faith and the enthusiasm of ordinary people."The Year of Faith", Archbishop Fisichella added, "falls into a broader context which is characterised by a generalised crisis that also touches the faith. ... The crisis of faith is a dramatic expression of an anthropological crisis which has abandoned man to his own devices. We must overcome the spiritual poverty affecting so many of our contemporaries who do no longer perceive the absence of God from their lives as a void that needs to be filled. The Year of Faith, then, is an opportunity which the Christian community offers to the many people who feel nostalgia for God and who desire to rediscover Him".The programme of events for the Year "touches the daily life of all believers and the ordinary pastoral care of the Christian community, in order to rediscover that genuine missionary spirit which we need in order to give life to the new evangelisation". In this context, the archbishop announced that the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments has approved the formula for a special "Mass for New Evangelisation". This, he said, is a sign that during the Year of Faith "priority will be given to prayer, and especially to the Eucharist as source and summit of all Christian life".
Actually, the "major theme of Pope Benedict's pontificate" has been the exercise of ALL faiths. Terrifying, isn't it?
It should be www.VaticanIIwasadisaster.com
Weakland's out of court settlement said... It should be www.VaticanIIwasadisaster.com What could be said? Other than...LOLOLOL!!! Well said, brother!!!
@Pray for the pope:I admire your sentiment (prayer) although I don't find myself much frightened by your assessment of his pontificate, inasmuch as I find myself instead rather baffled as to how you could have drawn that conclusion. Look at his Wednesday audiences, his encyclicals, and his homilies during his travels. They aren't about "all faiths;" they're about Christ and the Saints, especially the great theologians of the Tradition.
"Catechism of the Catholic Church"!"Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church"!"Ecumenical Council Vatican II"!"WE BELIEVE APOSTLES AND DISCIPLES""WE BELIEVE CHURCH FATHERS""WE BELIEVE MEDEIVAL THEOLOGIANS""WE BELIEVE WOMEN OF FAITH"This sound like the ground work for a Vortex episode, in the style of "No Bull in Madrid".I have two suggestions for the Holy Father: start teaching to those in the "top" moving downward; And start teaching from the first Ecumenical Council moving forward instead of from VII.
It is important to specify which faith we mean. As they say, King Charles I of England died for the faith but, unfortunately, it was the wrong one.By the way, the S.S.P.X spokesman said that Bishop Fellay would respond to the Pope's evaluation in "seven to ten days". Then some journalist contradicted this. However, Bishop Fellay has told us to trust nothing except what comes from the Vatican or Menzingen. Therefore, there should be a statement from +Fellay by Monday at the latest. Watch and pray.P.K.T.P.
Ask yourselves this: was one child, just one child, abused because of the liberal outfall of Vatican II?If so, how could it have been from the Holy Spirit??
Pray for the Pope:Wrong.That's your version, not Benedict XVI.
You should read +Fisichella's books- he has abandoned traditional apologetics and quite explicitly so. He says that pre-conciliar apologetics was too polemical...yet he begin his entire project with a polemic against the entire tradition of Catholic apologetics for the Faith. He is not interested in things like proving God's existence, what might be the True Religion...he is all about the very ambiguous sensus vitae, and Christ was anything but ambiguous...worries me that he is in charge of the New Evangelization...
P.K.T.P.As an aside, you can add the Diocese of Charlotte to your list of American diocese that have no regularised TLM's.As of Sunday June 24th, there will be no Sunday Mass in the diocese, other than the SSPX Mass in Mt Holly.Thank the good Lord for the Society.
I should say rather, 'No regularized every Sunday TLM'.
Cruise the Groove:Why are the non-SSPX TLM's going to cease?
Okay. I've seen the official logo for the Annus Fidei. :| Why always the silly and the juvenile? On first glance, how does a ship with a sail looking like the Eucharist supposed to be indicative of faith? Is that, in fact, what it's supposed to be? Another Vatican II moment where ambiguity is the rule?The official hymn. I don't want to hear it, I don't care to hear it. I cringe at the idea of that song somehow end up being sung at my parish. The official prayer is going to be in Latin and Italian. Latin? Really? What do they expect us to do with that? Here' the rub. It was composed in Italian first and then in to Latin secondly. That's been the trend in the Vatican lately for nearly all of the Church's docs in Latin. A credit to Blessed JP, he penned his own Latin and a lot of it. One more reason to dread any changes to the Tridentine Missal. It will be second-rate Latin because it will be a Latin translation from Italian with Italian ideomatic expressions, not Latin itself. An article in "Catholic Herald (UK)" said, "Archbishop Rino Fisichella, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting New Evangelisation, said the Pope has invited as concelebrants bishops and theologians who served as members or experts at the Second Vatican Council" for the October 11 opening of the Annus Fidei Mass in Saint Peter's Square. Must be a seminal moment for them to reminisce. How does one evangelize with the mentality everyone's beliefs are equal; so what would be the point?To that, Fisichella also announced, "the Congregation for Divine Worship and The [Discipline Of The] Sacraments had just approved prayer texts in Latin and Italian for a special “Mass for New Evangelisation.” The archbishop’s office is translating the Latin text into English, Spanish and other languages and hopes to have the congregation’s approval of the translations by the time the Year of Faith opens, he said." I think the Holy Father is the only one going to be saying that little bit of Latin at Mass--Novus Ordo, of course. Can anyone else envision a non-Tridentine “Mass for New Evangelization” being said in Latin anywhere else?Sorry, folks. Too much whine with dinner tonight.!
"Why are the non-SSPX TLM's going to cease?"Augustinus,Because the one priest in the diocese that offered the TLM on Sundays, [200 miles from the capital] is being transferred to a parish that is not friendly to the TLM.But it might change.Let us pray.
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