Rorate Caeli

The first "liturgists" - II

The adversaries ... make a great ado concerning the desolation of churches, namely, that the altars stand unadorned, without candles and without images. These trifles they regard as ornaments to churches. (Although it is not true that we abolish all such outward ornaments; yet, even if it were so, Daniel is not speaking of such things as are altogether external and do not belong to the Christian Church.) It is a far different desolation which Daniel means, 11, 31; 12, 11, namely, ignorance of the Gospel.


Concerning the exercises of faith struggling with despair, and the free remission of sins for Christ's sake, all the books and all the sermons of the adversaries were silent (worse than worthless, and, moreover, caused untold damage). To these, the horrible profanation of the masses and many other godless services in the churches were added. This is the desolation which Daniel describes. ... Candles, golden vessels (tapers, altar-cloths, images), and similar adornments are becoming, but they are not the adornment that properly belongs to the Church. ...


The adversaries also refer us to philology. ... Why do they ... omit the old appellation synaxis, which shows that the Mass was formerly the communion of many? ...

Philipp Melanchthon
Apologia Confessionis Augustanæ


  1. And thus we see the convergence of Lutheranism with the post-Vatican II Novus Ordo rupture with tradition. See Michael Davies, True and False Liturgical Reform.

  2. pertinacious said...

    "And thus we see the convergence of Lutheranism with the post-Vatican II Novus Ordo rupture with tradition."

    The same with the new movie that the Pope said he enjoyed called THE NATIVITY, where the Protestant version of the Blessed Mother is heretical...our Lady is portrayed as a bit of a rebellious teenager, sinful, what about the Feast Day we just celebrated? The Immaculate Conception.


    There can be no peace,
    If not of good will.
    There can be no race
    For those who stand still.

    Only she, full of grace,
    Could share in the miracle,
    Anything less
    Would be sinful, satirical.

    To magnify
    Her soul prepared
    By God, her spirit -
    Never ensnared.

    “Blessed art thou…”
    Gabriel hailed,
    And at that moment
    The enemy railed,

    For he remembered,
    In the garden free,
    Between him and a woman
    God placed enmity.

    But, who the woman?
    God did not tell,
    Then Gabriel’s “Ave”
    Shook the depths of Hell.

    And Satan screamed,
    Turned on a wing,
    To offer some peace
    And will good to a King.

    “Yes, some peace.” Herod said,
    “And good will…
    I’ve a right to my reign,
    If some Innocents I kill!”

  3. The Sacred Scriptures are very important but have to be interpreted with the light of Sacred Tradition. One cannot throw the baby out with the bath water.

    Ultimately, Luther is an impoverished and disorientated reference point for liturgy. We know from Scripture itself that Our Blessed Lord did many things not recorded in The Book. Bishop St Cyprian, Tertullian and other writings of the early fathers of The Church indicate quite clearly that there were many elements of The Latin Mass that was to come, already in place. It is also clear that Our Blessed Lord used The Last Supper as an instructive event to hand on to His disciples important teachings concerning how this event should be carried out. Protestant-Calvinistic ideology strips this away totally and conveniently ignores it, pretending that it was all a minimalist occurrence worthy of nothing else than packet bread, grape juice and men in suits (and why not women today?). It is this type of corrosive & fundamentally flawed thinking to which many so-called post-conciliar "liturgists" have subscribed. Some of these have even been sodomites.

    Other comments in liturgists I reflect elements of paradox in current NO liturgical norms relative to some protestant ones. If it were not so tragic and destructive it might be laughable.

  4. Some contemporary views of Our Blessed Lady and Our Blessed Lord (viz-a-viz The Nativity & Our Lord and Mary Magdalen) reflect the hideous deformation of a hedonistic culture where rampant sodomy and other perversions proliferate. The perpetrators of these distortions are now trying to legislate these views and outlaw the true understanding of them. The very institution which should be resisting falsehood is acting as its sponsor.

  5. "The same with the new movie that the Pope said he enjoyed called THE NATIVITY,"

    Just curious, but where did he say he enjoyed it, or that he has even seen it yet?

    And yes, based on accounts I've read, the movie is heavy laden with heresy. Hollywood never seems to get it right.

  6. Jordan says...

    "Just curious, but where did he say he enjoyed it, or that he has even seen it yet?"

    It was in the Zenit news. I'm sorry but I can't find the quote that he "enjoyed it", I think it was Zenit too. But, if I am wrong, that he "enjoyed it" he DID see it and to not speak about the Protestant's role in how they portrayed our Blessed Mother is scandalous at best. I'm still trying to find it but I know nothing bad has been said about the movie in the Catholic hierarchy as of yet.

    ZENIT - The World Seen From Rome
    Code: ZE06111922
    Date: 2006-11-19
    "The Nativity Story" to Open at Vatican
    Depicts a Year in the Life of Our Lady
    VATICAN CITY, NOV. 19, 2006 ( The world premiere of the film "The Nativity Story" is scheduled to take place Nov. 26 in the Vatican.

    Among the 7,000 people who will attend the screening in Paul VI Hall are the director, Catherine Hardwicke; actors Shoreh Aghdashloo and Oscar Isaac; producers Mary Bowen and Wyck Godfrey; and screenwriter Mike Rich.

    The screening of the film, produced by New Line Cinema, will be preceded by the reading of a Gospel passage and a prayer written by Archbishop Angelo Comastri, the Pope's vicar general for Vatican City State and archpriest of St. Peter's Basilica.

    Archbishop John Foley, president of the Pontifical Council for Social Communications, will give the presentation address.

    The event will serve to collect funds for the construction of a school in the town of Mughar in Israel, whose population comprises Christians, Muslims and Druze. The town is 40 kilometers (25 miles) from Nazareth.

    "The Nativity Story" presents the year in Mary's life that culminates with the birth of Jesus, the visit of the shepherds and Wise Men to the stable, Herod's brutal response with the massacre of the Innocents, and the flight of the Holy Family to Egypt.

    According to Peter Malone, film critic at Signis, the World Catholic Association for Communication, the movie is interesting both for Christians as well as non-Christians.

    "The screenplay is well grounded in the biblical texts, both the heritage of the Old Testament as well as the text and spirit of the Gospel infancy narratives," Malone stated. "This gives the film an advantage over narratives which limit the perspective to a literal reading of texts and rely on piety traditions for visual presentation.

    "It has also been noted that the screenplay offers substantial historical background to understand Palestine in these times and how the characters were influenced by their environment as well as by the harshness of authorities."

    The film will be released in most countries on Dec. 1.

  7. Long Skirts,

    I thought that the Annunciation was one of those events that God hid from the evil one. Hence, the event of the temptations in the desert to discover who this man Jesus could be. It seems to me that too much would have been revealed had Satan heard Gabriel's "Ave". Do you not think so?


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