Rorate Caeli

The more things change...

Fr. Vincent Robin FSSPX, who teaches at the school of St. Jean-Baptiste de la Salle at Camblain, came to offer Mass of the 4th Sunday after Epiphany for the traditional Roman Catholic community of Amiens amid the frosty (28°F) winds that blew through the street in front of the church of St. Germain. The recent opening of the door to the SSPX bishops by Pope Benedict XVI does not seem to have moved Bishop Bouilleret, the local ordinary, to open any doors to the marginalized Catholics of his diocese.


For 20 years we were vilified as being "outside the Church", charged with being "disobedient" vis-à-vis the Pope, and referred to as "excommunicants and fundamentalists". Now, at the point when the Pope formally reintegrates us, the same people are saying the same things. Conciliar charity is decidedly unattractive, and is undoubtedly one of the reasons for the empty churches.

It is always easier to preach obedience than to practice it. Now that the dignitaries of the Church must abide by the Pope on a difficult matter we will see what sort of example they set.

“To each his own” is a well known axiom. I do not know how the bishops interpret the sentence in the pope's speech to the bishops at Lourdes: "No one is too many in the Church. Everyone, without exception, must be able to feel at home, and must never feel rejected.” Perhaps it makes them think of Protestants, Orthodox, Anglicans ... According to the statements that we have read so far, it seems they did not believe the Pope was speaking of traditionalists.


--Abbé Bernard Lorber



  1. Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose.

    Exactly Abbe Lorber.You have hit the peg squarely on the head. The rank hypocrisy of conciliar catholicism in France is astonishing. And the bishops are responsible.

    I pray for its total demise and the renaissance of the traditional Roman Catholic Church there.

  2. Anonymous5:15 AM

    The Catholic world will continue to mistreat traditional Catholics of the SSPX because they do NOT know their Faith and because indifference reigns in the hearts of men. Until the requests of Fatima are fulfilled, things will remain the same and the world will grow darker and colder.

    Millions of rosaries should be offered for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the Pope in union with all the bishops in the world.

  3. Anonymous5:29 AM

    Yes, well said... this is "La charité conciliaire, et c'est pour cela que les églises sont vides". We must help these heroic fellows. Please help them: prayers and donations (I used the donation button on the webpage, simple and secure).

  4. "Now, at the point when the Pope formally reintegrates us..."

    I pray that this means that the reintegration is just around the corner...

  5. Anonymous6:11 AM

    I do not understand. They have to have Mass outside a church in a parking lot? Can someone explain the picture in relation to the story.

  6. Beautiful photos and beautiful, spiritual people

  7. Anonymous9:13 AM

    Shame to see this hatred continue. I thought this was resolved.

  8. Anonymous9:36 AM

    The reconciliation of the 4 Bishops makes the Church painfully aware that the concept of identity many Catholic bishops and clergy have of themselves is decidedly askew.

    I pray that the Holy Father address this important issue and magisterially speak on what precisely does it mean to be a Catholic and to be such as a priest and Bishop, and the proper, yet very minor role, the non binding resolutions of general counsils have in all of this.

    Br. Alexis Bugnolo

  9. Anonymous10:22 AM

    From what I have been told, for 20 years the congregation hired a chapel from the city council. About 18 months ago the council evicted them so the chapel could become a crèche. From that time Mass has been said outside a different church every Sunday. Some of the churches are no longer in use but the diocese refuses to let them be used for the Tridentine Mass. On the feast of the Holy Family Mass was to be said outside the cathedral and the temperature fell to -10. Mass is not said in the cathedral during winter months and the authorities took pity and allowed the traditionalists in to have Mass in the St Joseph’s chapel. Since then they have been back on the street.

  10. Anonymous1:48 PM

    A personal anecdote in line with what Abbe Lorber said: some years ago, about 1995, I was approached by the then president of the local Catholic college (not the now Abp Miller, incidentally) to see if I would serve on their academic affairs committee. I asked him in the course of the discussion whether they had non-Catholics serving, and he replied, "Oh yes, we have Protestants and Jews..." But when I told him I was (then) attending Mass at the local SSPX chapel, he checked with the chancery and came back to me and said, well, maybe now was not the right time for me to serve on the committee, don't call us, we'll call you.

    I dearly love all of those folks, including this former president, but merely report this as another example of the kind of "conciliar charity" referred to, and to show, perhaps, how the "schism" in a material sense has not at all been one way.


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