Rorate Caeli

Numbers

Nationalities of the new voting Cardinals:

Italians: 7
Americans: 2
Spaniard, Portuguese, Brazilian, Indian, Dutch, Canadian, Chinese, German, Czech: 1

By Continent/Region:

Europe: 12
North America: 3
Asia and Oceania: 2 (Southeast Asia/Oceania: 0)
Latin America: 1 (Spanish America: 0)
Africa:0


Residential (ordinaries of Diocesan Sees), by Continent/ Region:

Europe: 4
North America: 2
Asia and Oceania: 2 (Southeast Asia/Oceania: 0)
Latin America: 0
Africa: 0

Curiosities: the February 2012 consistory will be the first one not to include a residential Cardinal from either Africa or Latin America since the small June 1977 Consistory - the last Montini Consistory, in which only 5 Cardinals were created, including Cardinals Ratzinger (Munich) and Gantin (Justice and Peace). / There will be 107 voting Cardinals on the eve of the next consistory, 21% of whom will be Italians. With the new Consistory, there will be 125 voting Cardinals, 24% of whom will be Italians, the highest percentage since the mid-1970s.

26 comments:

Mike B. said...

Church going Diocese need not apply?

Anonymous said...

Ratzinger likes Italians. It's been the weak point of the entire pontificate. If you get rid of Bertone and the backlog of political, wishy-washy, moderate, crappy Italian middle-manager curial prelates, this would be a different, and more successful, Pontificate.

Staurofilax said...

Canadian Archbishop Thomas C. Collins of Toronto named a Cardenal????

This is not very good news.


Lord help us!

Gratias said...

Una Voce Malaga (lined in Rorate) keeps a list of the 254 bishops that have offered or attended the traditional Mass. The only one in that list that was elevated was Archbishop Betori of Florence. So much for the idea that only those who are familiar with the rites of all the Catholic Church should be leaders.

This is worrisome, we might be in for a surprise next Conclave. The US has many bishops that have participated in TLM but Italy relatively few. It would be interesting to know whether some of the new eminences are known V2 liberals.

Matt said...

John summed it up quite well. Yes, the Italian bishops are the ones en bloc who are among the most against the Pope and his efforts at reviving Sacred Tradition.

Referring to Gratias, yes, the next conclave is very much something to be worried about. Unless they become unable to to vote, I shudder to think who next will accede the Throne.

methinks said...

Although there are many Cardinals who are quite sound and love the Church (Ouellet, Scola, Piacenza, Pell, Canizares), I think there are just two men who would continue the restoration of the Sacred Tradition with such a determination as our Holy Father is doing: Burke and Ranjith. And they both have practically no chances in a Conclave. May God grant Pope Benedict many more years!

Staurofilax said...

I am worried about the next Conclave!

I trust in God, but things are not looking all that good for the Church at least not for a while, the names in the College of Cardinals make me very nervous to say the least.

May Our Lord Jesus Christ help us to remain faithful inside His Church, during this very difficult and trying times Holy Mother Church is experiencing.

Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
Amen!

Jusztinián G. Ratkaj said...

The college has by no means to represent the "universal church". It is not its purpose. The history of the cardinalate proves that evidently. Sheer Anti-Italianism and its odd stereotypes are to be rejected. Besides that it is preposterous to hallucinate an alleged split between Card. Bertone and His Holiness. Both are known to each other since decades, Josephus Ratzinger in his times as prefect recognized him as a very loyal cooperator. Not for no reason Tarcisio later in September 2006has been appointed to exert the duties as secretary of state and is continuing to do so at the side of the Holy Father even after reaching the usual retirement age.

Edward said...

If being named a Cardinal was a merit appointment then prelates such as Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz and his ilk would be named since they have been orthodox, loyal to both rites and have many vocations.No it's a beauracratic appt. which means if you can run the diocese without scandal(Even if your not especially zealous or orthodox) you have a great chance

Peterman said...

To quote Mozart in the film Amadeus "Italians, Italians, it's always the Italians."

Joseph said...

While the college is not meant to representative of the Church, the number of Italians is excessive.

Looking at this list, the SSPX needs to realize they may not have a friendly successor to Benedict XVI. The possibility exists that an openly hostile Pope will be elected.

Staurofilax said...

Joseph I think you might be right.

"the SSPX needs to realize they may not have a friendly successor to Benedict XVI. The possibility exists that an openly hostile Pope will be elected."

Gratias said...

The FSSP is of great service to the Church yet is not represented by a single Bishop. One of the rites of the Latin Church is not given its rightful place in the Church.

Allan said...

Why the objection to Abp. Collins?

Joe B said...

A pope openly hostile to SSPX is a pope openly hostile to tradition, especially our mass. Popes come in many flavors. I'll stick with tradition and wait for a better flavor. My soul is safe with our traditions, and I'm quite sure Our Lady will right the ship in due time.

Pablo the Mexican said...

If the Holy Father does not put Catholics in position of authority, this is what God will eventually do:

Priests shall be sought among those who wield the hoe, the spade, and the hammer, as David prophesied: God lifted the poor man from the fields to place him on the throne of His people.

And that includes His Excellancy Bishop Fellay of the SSPX.

*

Louis E. said...

Cardinal Piacenza (last consistory) and Cardinal-designate Calcagno were both ordained by Cardinal Siri,the former appointed by him as a Cathedral Canon of Genoa...are they not considered sound?

Cardinal Bertone loses his vote in the conclave in December of year after next.

Matt said...

Joseph said, "Looking at this list, the SSPX needs to realize they may not have a friendly successor to Benedict XVI. The possibility exists that an openly hostile Pope will be elected."

I also fear this will be the case. Depending on what transpires over the next few months (year?) regarding this so-called "Preamble," it may be Rome's best-and-final in that our present Holy Father just may be the last one willing to dialogue with the Society for the next generation or so. I think what the SSPX needs is its own Ordinariate. If the Anglicans can get one, what's the thrombosis about the Society receiving one?

Yes, never doubt the workings of the Holy Spirit, but God still has to contend with people, and a whole slew of Italians (and a handful of Mahonys) stacking the deck wouldn't be too fun.

It would be a a tremendous boost to the Church if Cardinal Ranjith was called to be Pope. He's solid and within the first year of taking charge of the Colombo Diocese, he set liturgical matters right.

Matt

Matt said...

Louis E. said, "Cardinal Bertone loses his vote in the conclave in December of year after next."

Is this because of his turning 80? I didn't think he was that old?

Peterman said...

One of these Italians is potentially "Peter the Roman". Yep, I still believe in the Prophecy of the Popes.

AsianCatholic said...

Matt said:

"He's solid and within the first year of taking charge of the Colombo Diocese, he set liturgical matters right."

Are you from Sri Lanka?

If not, have you bothered to look at the photo galleries of the Archdiocese of Colombo's website?

http://www.archdioceseofcolombo.com/

Cardinal Ranjith's Masses are reverent but not "Reform of the Reform" much less traditional.

KC Catholic said...

I have always thought that the Italians, after 40 plus years, are longing for the papacy back. I would be very surprised if the next Holy Father is NOT an Italian.

Matt said...

Okay, folks. According to AsianCatholic, never mind about Ranjith. I guess we really do have to fast and pray regarding the next conclave.

Louis E. said...

Matt,Cardinal Bertone was born December 2nd 1934,and now that it is 2012,"year after next" is 2014.

KC Catholic,I do think there is a certain groundedness in retaining the perception that,despite the odd non-Italian,Popes are usually Italian.

Stefano said...

"With the new Consistory, there will be 125 voting Cardinals, 24% of whom will be Italians, the highest percentage since the mid-1970s".
Unbelievable, Pope Benedict is reinforcing the Italian dominance even further! Basta cosí, per caritá! Is the holy apostolic Church Italian or catholic, i.e. universal?

Matt said...

With all these Italians being elevated, is it due to a "de facto" appointment such as a position they hold, i.e., Timothy Dolan being elevated because New York is a cardinalture, etc.? The remainder all based on Papal "generosity?"

I just can't help but think the Holy Father is trying to stack the deck for some reason...

Matt