Rorate Caeli

2012 statistics for the FSSP

The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter reached their 24th year last month, and they have just released their updated statistics.

As of this moment (Nov. 1, 2012), the Fraternity has 397 members, including 236 Priests, 11 Deacons, and 150 non-diaconal Seminarians. The average age of its members is 37, and 5 of its members are no longer on this earth (requiescant in pace).

[For a comparison with the previous year's statistics, visit our 2011 post here. If you wish to add recent statistics of other groups and societies of priests dedicated to the Traditional Mass, please do so in the comment box.]


Edgar said...

Laus Deo!
Bendito sea el señor por mandarnos sacerdotes santos en la FSSP que cuiden a su rebaño.

Thank God for sending us holy priests to look after his flock.

Tom said...

I love the "hodie" on the x-axis.

God bless the FSSP!

Kenneth J. Wolfe said...

My favorite priests in the world. May there be many more.

Let's also pray the FSSP is invited into some of the larger cities in the U.S. The archdioceses of New York, Philadelphia and Los Angeles each have archbishops who should be considered more friendly than a few years ago. (Washington, DC will need to wait a couple more years.) Perhaps some meeting requests soon? Perhaps they're already in the works...

Personal parishes in big cities would continue to add credibility to the Fraternity in the U.S. Not that there's anything wrong with rural areas -- indeed, that's where many traditional Catholics reside -- but the way to grow requires presence in big cities. Look at Opus Dei (but not liturgically!) as a model on growth and influence as an organization.

The Fraternity of Saint Peter is to be commended for helping to make the traditional Catholic Mass and sacraments mainstream. Now all priests have resources -- DVDs, the Ordo, classes, etc. From their dumpy old Penn. motel seminary to rented chapels around the country in the old days, it was not an easy beginning for them! We owe them so much -- including with our prayers and donations.

Patrick Langan said...

God has blessed us with Society may their numbers grow and grow
Thy will be done!

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David L. said...


You hear weekday sermons from the FSSP? I never do at my parish, and I wish I did!

We didn't even get a sermon on All Saints' Day, which I thought was required.

j hughes dunphy said...

The lack of orthodox preaching in the last fifty years has left the
Catholic in the pew with an "uninformed Catholic conscience". If anything our dear Lord did was to preach vigorously, authoritative,morally,clearly and cogently at every opportunity. This is the great Sin of Vatican II and since, the monstrous sin of Omission: a glaring failure of priests to be holy and to preach and teach the one true faith of the centuries, all from misinformed priests and catechism teachers and sisters than anything else. What happens to all these "uninformed Catholics in the pews"? Yes, eventually they all apostasize. God save us!

j hughes dunphy, the orthodox Roman

Hodie said...

The fact is, Fratres, that the current Cardinal Archbishop of New York is not open to the Latin Mass. He and his predecessor I think purposely have the TLM at a number of places in NYC and north so as to keep the numbers who want it diluted. If this is to change there will have to be a concerted effort to make it change. But, alas, unity is sorely and surprisingly lacking amongst those of us who read these pages. However, in about a hundred years, it may happen that the FSSP would be invited.

The Rad Trad said...

Yes, Templar, the Institute priests may be wonderful, but the FSSP has higher growth potential. With bland and dubiously orthodox diocesan seminarians declining in number, at least we will have good priests of the traditional mind and spirit for the future. I remember one concerned Church sociologist said "Not only are traditional groups the fastest growing. They're the only ones growing." In a few decades we may have a very odd situation indeed, given tradition's vocational boom and the institutionalized fear of tradition in the chanceries.

God bless the FSSP

New Catholic said...

Templar, if you wish to rephrase on why those are your "favorite" priests, then that is quite fine.

Joseph said...

Rad Trad,

Please don't let facts get in the way of your statements. 6,853 men were ordained as diocesan priests this year, as opposed to 4,622 in 1970.

The meme that some traditionalists push about the disappearance of non-traditionalist clergy is empty hyperbole. Some liberal dioceses and some liberal religious orders have seen a devastating drop in vocations but orthodox dioceses and orders, whether tied to the Extraordinary Form or Ordinary Form or both, are doing quite well.

Templar said...

The Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest are my favorite priests because no liturgical detail is too small, like the candle that is lit and placed close to the Tabernacle for the Roman Canon and I like the idea of going to a weekday Mass with no sermon.

Tom said...

"...the current Cardinal Archbishop of New York is not open to the Latin Mass."

The he is not open to Sacrosanctum Concilium, the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy, which teaches that Masses in Latin (with Gregorian chant) are to be offered.


Tom said...

"...orthodox dioceses..."

I don't believe that His Holiness has indicated that unorthodox dioceses exist within Holy Mother Church.

Each diocese is orthodox.


Malta said...

I love FSSP, and FSSPX, but they are a smidgeon of what used to be truly Catholic!

One of my best friends is a Priest, and he wants to say the TLM, but can't, even now, because of possible reprisals by his a-hole bishop.

God it's hard to be Catholic these days!

Augustinus said...

"Please don't let facts get in the way of your statements. 6,853 men were ordained as diocesan priests this year, as opposed to 4,622 in 1970..."

In 1970 there were 650 million Catholics. Last year there were about 1.2 billion. While the raw numbers of new diocesan priests last year may be higher than in 1970, the ratio of new priests in comparison to the world Catholic population is much lower.

mlivohi said...

Let's not forget that in 1988 there were only a few who set up the FSSP, compared with 400 priests in the SSPX (if my recollection is correct).

Francis said...

"In 1970 there were 650 million Catholics. Last year there were about 1.2 billion"

How many of those 1.2 billion do you suppose are really practicing Catholics? My opinion is it's not 1.2 billion.

The Rad Trad said...

"Please don't let facts get in the way of your statements. 6,853 men were ordained as diocesan priests this year, as opposed to 4,622 in 1970..."

The global population has more than doubled in that period and the number of ordinations has only increased 50%? Also, recall that an enormous number of men left the priesthood (about 1/3rd in the West) between 1965 and 1980. The results of the post-Conciliar program have been utterly dreadful. Moreover the number of seminarians since 1950 declined nearly 90%, but the number of priests (between 1965 and 1995) only dropped by half, meaning we were probably ordaining men who would not have been ordained in better times.

My point was not that the FSSP is going to dwarf diocese. It is not. My point was that this is indicative of a groundswell of interest in tradition. Even among diocesan seminarians. Yes, they'll call it the "extraordinary form" and say it once a month/week/etc for now and a few years to come, but this eager acceptance of the old rite is not going to remain. An increasing number are offering the traditional Mass as their first solemn Mass. A huge percentage (majority percentage in northeastern American dioceses, from my experiences) have some sort of positive and consistent experience with the old Mass. When they are priests in 7 years it may be more normal for them to use the old rite with regularity. In 20 years, weekday old rite Masses will likely be common at the diocesan level. Unless the chanceries recognize and warm up to this change, and do not just use the tradition communities as vocation makers, there is going to be clerical tension within a generation or two.


There are un-orthodox dioceses and have been many since the Church's holy inception. Popes rarely breach good etiquette and declare another bishop to be a heretic. I can think of two major American diocese in the last 15 years that were occupied by bishops and large number of clergy who I would hesitate to call Catholic in any substantial capacity, beyond what they put on their tax files. When evaluating the state of the Church, love the Pope, but do not dismiss reality in favor of silence from positive law.

Tom said...

Off topic, but what do you make of this announcement today:


Il Santo Padre ha accolto la rinunzia presentata da S.E. Mons. Félix del Blanco Prieto, Arcivescovo titolare di Vannida, per raggiunti limiti d'età, all’incarico di Elemosiniere di Sua Santità ed ha chiamato a succedergli nel medesimo incarico il Mons. Guido Pozzo, finora Segretario della Pontificia Commissione «Ecclesia Dei», elevandolo in pari tempo alla Sede Arcivescovile titolare di Bagnoregio. Mons. Guido Pozzo
Il Mons. Guido Pozzo è nato a Trieste il 26 dicembre 1951.
Ha compiuto gli studi liceali al Liceo Petrarca di Trieste.
È stato ordinato sacerdote il 24 settembre 1977 e incardinato a Trieste.
Entrato come alunno nell'Almo Collegio Capranica nel 1970, ha compiuto gli studi presso la Pontificia Università Gregoriana conseguendo il Baccalaureato in Filosofia, la Licenza in Teologia Dogmatica e il Dottorato in Teologia.
Ha iniziato il servizio presso la Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede il 4 Maggio 1987.
È stato nominato Prelato d'Onore di Sua Santità, il 21 novembre 2004.
È stato nominato Segretario della Pontificia Commissione «Ecclesia Dei», l’8 luglio 2009.


Good or bad for the negotiations with the SSPX?

Joseph said...

The difference in overall Catholic population means in 1970, there was one diocesan ordination for every 140,000 Catholics and this year there was one diocesan ordination for every 175,000 Catholics. However, as everyone likes to point out, the percentage of practicing Catholics has declined significantly, shrinking the potential vocation pool. I would suggest that the ordination rate has been improving the last two decades if you use practicing Catholics and not baptized Catholics for your ratio.
Also, when you look at the actual numbers of practicing Catholics, then it becomes obvious why the Church's influence in the world is so diminished. We number far fewer than a billion.

Rad Trad,

Many trads don't make the clarification that you just made. They actually think the Novus Ordo is going to go away because priests in traditionalist orders will outnumber other priests, which is absurd. The only way the Extraordinary Form will become more widespread than a token parish in each diocese will be if diocesan clergy begin to offer it regularly. And to that end, we should be very grateful for the efforts of the FSSP to train diocesan priests. This is at least as important for growth as increasing the number of their own parishes and chapels.

Anonymous said...

Many would love to have and our Diocese desperately needs priests from the F.S.S.P. I am referring to the Diocese of Cleveland, OH., where our Bishop has stated we have a priest shortage, and many parishes have been closed, with about 14 re-opened when the Congregation for the Clergy ruled the churches were wrongly or incorrectly closed. I must say, our Bishop did not appeal the decision, which he could have, but the churches were opened with a priest who now is responsible for two churches and some churches are not worshiping God in the same manner that He was worshiped before the closings. F.S.S.P., please rescue us in the Diocese of Cleveland, OH.