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"Ecclesiastical Oddities": Héctor Agüer, Archbishop Emeritus of La Plata, tries to understand what is going on in the Argentine episcopate under Francis

ECCLESIASTICAL ODDITIES

by Archbishop Héctor Agüer
Archbishop Emeritus of La Plata, Argentina
 Buenos Aires, June 1, 2024

[La Plata, Argentina: Immaculate Conception Cathedral in central Moreno Square]


The corresponding adjective is "odd" ("rare"), which has several meanings in the dictionary; I choose one: odd is that which has little density and consistency. Although it also refers to extraordinary and extravagant things. I mean: it is an oddity that the Pope is Argentinian, what is also odd is the fact that in over a decade he has not had the concern to visit his homeland. John Paul II (Wojtyla) and Benedict XVI (Ratzinger), as soon as they were elected, the first trip they made took them to their homeland, respectively Poland and Germany. I read in “La Prensa”, a Buenos Aires newspaper: “Francis revealed that he would like to come in November or at the beginning of 2025”. Under this title, the newspaper says that the Pope “commented that it is in his plans to travel to Argentina either at the end of November or at the beginning of 2025”. According to the old saying, “think wrong and you will be right,” I dare to think that he will not come, and I outline a reason: he knows that he is not going to do very well. I may be wrong, of course, but this opinion of mine responds to a 46-year-old knowledge of Jorge Bergoglio.

Op-Ed: With 'Traditionis custodes', Francis Promotes Disunity (by Archbishop Aguer, Emeritus of La Plata, Argentina)

 A Regrettable Step Backwards

Archbishop Héctor Aguer*
Emeritus of La Plata, Argentina
for Infocatólica


The current Pontiff declares that he wishes to pursue even further the constant search for ecclesial communion and to make this purpose effective, he eliminates the work of his predecessors by placing arbitrary limits and obstacles to what they established with intra-ecclesial ecumenical intention and respect for the freedom of priests and faithful! It promotes ecclesial communion in reverse. The new measures are a regrettable step backwards.


I was ordained a priest for the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires on November 25, 1972; I celebrated my first Mass the following day in the parish of San Isidro Labrador (Saavedra neighborhood), where I resided all that year, exercising the diaconate. Obviously I celebrated according to the Novus Ordo promulgated in 1970. I have never celebrated "the ancient Mass," not even after the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum; I would have to study the rite, of which I have distant memories, having served as an altar boy. Recently, while attending the Divine Liturgy of the Syrian Orthodox Church, I seemed to notice a certain resemblance to the Latin Solemn Mass, with deacon and subdeacon, in which I often assisted, especially at funerals, which in my parish were often celebrated with special solemnity. I insist: I have always celebrated, with the greatest devotion I can muster, the rite in force in the Universal Church. When I was Archbishop of La Plata, I used to sing the Eucharistic prayer in Latin every Saturday at the "St. Joseph" Major Seminary, using the precious Missal published by the Holy See. We had formed, according to the recommendation of the Second Vatican Council in the Constitution Sacrosanctum Concilium n. 114, a schola cantorum, which has been eliminated at my retirement. In Traditionis custodes (Art. 3§ 4) it speaks of a priest delegated by the bishop to be in charge of the celebrations of the Mass and the pastoral care of the faithful of the groups authorized to use the Missal prior to the reform of 1970. It is stated there that he "should have a knowledge of the Latin language". It should be remembered that it is possible to celebrate the Mass currently in force in the whole Church in Latin. The Council affirmed in Sacrosanctum Concilium 36 § 1, "The use of the Latin language in the Latin rites is to be preserved, except by special law." Unfortunately, the "particular right" seems to be to prohibit Latin, as in fact it is done (this is not a boutade). If someone dares to propose to celebrate in Latin, he is looked upon as a misguided, unforgivable troglodyte.

Latin was for centuries the bond of unity and communication in the Western Church. Today it is not only abandoned, but hated. In the seminaries its study is neglected, precisely because it is not useful. They do not realize that this closes off direct access to the Fathers of the Western Church, who are very important for theological studies: I am thinking, for example, of St. Augustine and St. Leo the Great, and of medieval authors such as St. Anselm and St. Bernard. This situation seems to me to be a sign of cultural poverty and willful ignorance.

A job for a true Journalist: Who can find "The Kolvenbach Report" on Father Bergoglio?

The superiors of religious orders and societies are consulted by the Congregation for Bishops when their priestly members are considered for an appointment as bishop.

It is a well known and established information in the Holy See (as it was in Buenos Aires before) that, when Father Jorge Mario Bergoglio, SJ, was tipped by the then-Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Quarracino, to become his auxiliary, in 1992, the then-Superior General of the Society of Jesus, Father Peter Hans Kolvenbach -- who was struggling to recover some credibility to his order after the severe intervention by Pope John Paul II and the removal of Arrupe and Arrupists who had run the great Society to the ground following the Council -- wrote an unfavorable report on the possible nomination.

Repost: "Yes, I know Bergoglio. He’s a person who’s caused a lot of problems in the Society."

“Yes I know Bergoglio [, says a Jesuit superior from another Latin American country]. He’s a person who’s caused a lot of problems in the Society and is highly controversial in his own country.

Under Bergoglio, Christianity Matters Less - A Contradictory Pope
- A Major Interview with Sandro Magister

The Pope is confusing many bishops

Sandro Magister, interviewed by Goffredo Pistelli
Italia Oggi
November 13, 2014

This year Sandro Magister celebrates 40 years as a Vatican journalist. His first articles in L’Espresso in fact, date back to 1974.  And today, from those columns and also from the site of the weekly magazine, he still continues to report Vatican and Church news, everything very well-documented without bowing down to anyone.
Born in 1943, a native of Busto Arsizio, with degrees in Philosophy and Theology from the “Cattolica”, Magister has followed many Roman pontiffs. His articles regarding the present Pontiff, Pope Francis, are distinct from the mainstream Vatican journalists, unhesitatingly noting contradictions.  
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Question: Magister, Pope Bergoglio, has been basking in worldwide success these past months, but some of his decisions have given pause for thought. For example, he has presented himself as Bishop of Rome but at the Synod for the Family, he evoked the Codes of Canon Law confirming Petrine power.
R: It’s true. He did that in his closing speech.
Q: He outlined a shared and open vision in the governing Church, yet he appointed an outside commissioner with rather tough methods to the Franciscans of the Immaculate and also de facto put a bridle on the bishops conferences.
R: Some, like the Italian one, have effectively been destroyed.

Argentina Freak Show. Just in Time for Family Synod, Other Firsts:
- Activists Celebrate Homosexual Catholic "Wedding-like Blessing" -- Plus Another "First" in Baptisms

Argentina, the Sun of the Universal Church: the Argentine Church is a freak show that keeps on giving gifts to the Catholic world! In just two days, two unbelievable stories.
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Those are two men getting their civil "wedding" "blessed".
1. Saturday, Sep. 14 - After being barred from "marrying" them, priest "blesses" homosexual "marriage" in a wedding-like public ceremony in Santiago del Estero

Libero Quotidiano: "Islam: When Bergoglio attacked Ratzinger"

Regensburg, 2006
When an Islamophile Bergoglio attacked Ratzinger


by Fausto Carioti
August 22, 2014

Pope names former adversary in Argentine episcopate to head office that does not yet exist

From the Monday bollettino:

Vatican City, 19 May 2014 (VIS) – The Holy Father has - appointed Metropolitan Archbishop Jose Luis Mollaghan of Rosario, Argentina as member of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, with responsibility for the Commission for the examination of appeals by clergy accused of “delicta graviora”, to be established.

Sandro Magister quite understandably interprets this as a removal - from Archbishop of a large diocese of over 2 million faithful to head of a (non-cardinalatial) office within the CDF that does not even exist yet. The 68-year-old Mollaghan was one of those named by Pope Benedict XVI against the line espoused by the Bergoglio side of the Conference - and actually from outside the "terna" prepared in Argentina.

Rorate reported this at the time, when, during the first half of his pontificate, Benedict XVI appeared strongest (2006):

The general system for the appointment of bishops in the past 40 years has included some negotiations between the local episcopal conference and the local nuncio -- who then sends a list of three names to the Pope, through the Congregation for Bishops.

The Italian press reports today some very interesting news. In his recent audience with the Pope, Cardinal Bergoglio, archbishop of Buenos Aires (and, according to some reports, runner-up in the last conclave) mentioned the fact that two of the most prominent recent episcopal nominations in Argentina, the Archbishops of Rosario and Resistencia, were men whose names had not been included in the lists sent by the nuncio. It is not completely clear if he complained to the pope about the practice, but it seems so, since the report mentions the "concern of the Argentinian episcopate"

It is excellent news that the Pope has chosen to eventually choose names from outside the usual "progressive" careerists handpicked by the local nuncios and conferences of bishops.

And most importantly:


The largest Argentinian newspaper, Clarín, has several interesting news on the crisis between the Holy See and the "ultra-progressive" Argentinian Conference of Bishops on the nomination, by the Holy Father, of so-called "conservative" bishops to the Archdioceses of Rosario and Resistencia, whose names had not been included in the ternas (the lists of three names sent by the local nuncio, in agreement with the local episcopal conference, to the Pope through the Congregation for Bishops) .

Some excerpts of the three articles published today show the amazing insolence of the local bishops. Fortunately, the Holy Father has shown even greater determination in this showdown with the Argentinian Episcopate by naming another "conservative" bishop to the Diocese of Zárate-Campana, while Cardinal Bergoglio, Archbishop of Buenos Aires and President of the Episcopal Conference, is in Rome to voice these pathetic "concerns" of his colleagues.

From the first article:
"The most serious case is that of conservative bishop José Luiz Mollaghan, named new archbishop of Rosario, of the most important sees of Argentina. Most Argentinian bishops had preferred bishop Agustín Radrizzani, who had also been elected vice-president of the Argentinian episcopal conference, in a clear sign to Rome."

"The other case is that of bishop Fabriciano Sigampa, new bishop of Resistencia, also seen as 'very conservative'."
From the second article:
"The last nominations of bishops in the Argentinian Church have not reflected the majoritarian preferences of the Argentinian episcopate. ... Finally, the bishopric of Santiago del Estero is also vacant, since its titular bishop, Juan Carlos Maccarone, resigned in August, after being involved in a sex scandal. It is said that the only recent nomination which has reflected the wishes of the leadership of the episcopate was that of Jorge Lozano -- up to December an immediate collaborator of Cardinal Bergoglio -- to Gualeuguaychú. Even so, his nomination was not the product of a rapid process, but [of a] labor-intensive one."

Do you all remember who Maccarone was? He was the bishop who was forced to resign last August [Aug. 2005] because of a video portraying his sexual acts with a young man -- a resignation which the pope immediately accepted (of course), as he was on his way to the World Youth Day in Germany. And the Argentinian bishops want the Pope to accept their choices?

The third article explains that the conference of bishops wishes to minimize the clear battle between the Roman Curia and the national episcopate. Well, too late for that, now.

(Just to clarify the information published in the Italian press, as reported here, the Argentinian articles make clear that the Pope has actually not granted the audience requested by Cardinal Bergoglio to voice his concerns -- at least not until now.)

Well, things have certainly changed. But maybe it is just a fortunate coincidence, and the Pope really wanted to charge Mollaghan with judging the delicate delicta graviora, which are truly at the heart of the crisis of credibility faced by the Church since the late 20th century, in the office that still does not really exist. Of the conservative bishops named against the wishes of then-Cardinal Bergoglio, Magister recalls that Sigampa is already retired, Mollaghan is now named to this non-cardinalatial subordinate post, and the only one remaining is the now completely isolated archbishop of La Plata, Héctor Aguer.

Blasts from the Past: Bergoglio's legacy; Pascal and speculation.

“Yes I know Bergoglio [, says a Jesuit superior from another Latin American country]. He’s a person who’s caused a lot of problems in the Society and is highly controversial in his own country. In addition to being accused of having allowed the arrest of two Jesuits during the time of the Argentinean dictatorship, as provincial he generated divided loyalties: some groups almost worshipped him, while others would have nothing to do with him, and he would hardly speak to them. It was an absurd situation. He is well-trained and very capable, but is surrounded by this personality cult which is extremely divisive. He has an aura of spirituality which he uses to obtain power. It will be a catastrophe for the Church to have someone like him in the Apostolic See. He left the Society of Jesus in Argentina destroyed with Jesuits divided and institutions destroyed and financially broken. We have spent two decades trying to fix the chaos that the man left us.”
Paul Vallely
Pope Francis: Untying the Knots
2013


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[Just to be clear: this second quote is unrelated to the quote above.]

In those cases in which the State is interested as well as Religion, your apprehension of man's justice has induced you to divide your decisions into two shares. To the first of these you give the name of speculation; under which category crimes, considered in themselves, without regard to society, but merely to the law of God, you have permitted, without the least scruple, and in the way of trampling on the divine law which condemns them. The second you rank under the denomination of practice, and here, considering the injury which may be done to society, and the presence of magistrates who look after the public peace, you take care, in order to keep yourselves on the safe side of the law, not to approve always in practice the murders and other crimes which you have sanctioned in speculation. ... Such is the style in which your opinions begin to develop themselves, under the shelter of this distinction [between speculation and practice], in virtue of which, without doing any sensible injury to society, you only ruin religion. In acting thus, you consider yourselves quite safe. You suppose that, on the one hand, the influence you have in the Church will effectually shield from punishment your assaults on truth; and that, on the other, the precautions you have taken against too easily reducing your permissions to practice will save you on the part of the civil powers, who, not being judges in cases of conscience, are properly concerned only with the outward practice. Thus an opinion which would be condemned under the name of practice, comes out quite safe under the name of speculation.
Pascal
Provincial Letter n. XIII
September 30, 1656

[Source for the first quote of a papal biography from a mostly Liberal perspective: The American Catholic blog, via P. Blosser. // We will return to this Pascal quote, closely linked to the presentation of the Kasper Doctrine on the destruction of the Christian doctrine on marriage, in short time.]

Pope Francis: "Priests, do you weep? In the Ancient Missal..."

“Tell me: do you weep? Or have we lost tears? I remember that in the Ancient Missals, those of another time, there was a very beautiful prayer to ask for the gift of tears. It began thus, the prayer: 'Lord, You, who gave to Moses the mandate of striking the stone so that water would come of it, strike the stone of my heart, so that tears...': it went like this, more or less, the prayer. It was very beautiful. But how many of us weep before the suffering of a child, before the destruction of a family, before so many people who do not find the way? The weeping of priests... Do you weep?"
Franciscus
March 6, 2014

It is the collect ad petendam compunctionem cordis, in the traditional Roman Missal (Orationes diversae):

Oratio: Omnípotens et mitíssime Deus, qui sitiénti pópulo fontem vivéntis aquae de petra produxísti: educ de cordis nostri durítia lácrimas compunctiónis; ut peccáta nostra plángere valeámus, remissionémque eórum, te miseránte, mereámur accípere. Per Dóminum nostrum.... [“Almighty and most merciful God, Who, to quench the thirst of Thy people, didst draw a fountain of living water out of a rock, draw from our stony hearts tears of compunction, that we may be able to weep for our sins and win forgiveness for them by Thy mercy. Through Our Lord ... .”]

Cantuale Antonianum (in Italian) says that in the 2002 typical edition of the Paul VI Missal a similar prayer was included. But it was obviously the Ancient Missal that in its poetic beauty and own personal experience (as an altar boy... as a seminarian), became ingrained in the Pope's memory forever.

Note: in 2010, we posted this translation of a text dedicated to traditional collects, including the collect pro petitione lacrymarum, by Dom Gérard Calvet, of most venerable memory, founder and first abbot of Saint Mary Magdalen of Le Barroux, the great Traditional Abbey in southern France.

The advance of abortion, homosexual "marriage", and all perverted ideas? / Our Problem is the Catholic Church and her silence: where is the indignation? / "Who am I to judge": the tombstone of any pro-family legal battle


The Smoke of Satan in the Church

a letter by Mario Palmaro


What follows is a little unusual, but as it is a central topic in the life of the Church and of our work, we offer it to you knowing well that it requires a considerable effort by those who want understand things thoroughly. Mario Palmaro, a well- known writer to the readers of La Nuova Bussola Quotidiano, wrote me a very long letter to express publically his indignation about the direction the Church is taking, above all regarding the homosexual aggression which is of interest to the whole world. My reply follows this letter, and with it, I do not want to close the discussion, but open it to other input. Palmaro with his friend and colleague, Alessandro Gnocchi, were at the centre of polemics in the past months because of a series of articles in Il Foglio, when they harshly criticized Pope Francis. The Pope himself, then called Palmaro, after discovering that he had a grave illness. Hence, I would like to take the opportunity to ask all our readers to pray for him.

Riccardo Cascioli, 
Director of La Nuova Bussola Quotidana
[Catholic online daily]

January 8, 2014
Dear Director,

I read your editorial of January 3 [2014] – “Renzi - if this is progress!” , and I can only agree with your analysis on the new Secretary of the [Socialist] Democratic Party - his cunning self-confidence, his transformism, the inevitable contradiction between saying he is Catholic and his promotion of things that conflict not only with the Catechism, but with the natural law. I would like to add my appreciation for all that you have been doing for some time now with the Bussola in the face of the homosexual assault, and don’t want to reproach you in any way.

However, I feel the need to write to you and your readers. In all honesty: is our problem really Matteo Renzi? Did we really expect that one who becomes Secretary of the Democratic Party, would then set about defending the natural family, the unborn, combating artificial insemination, abortion, and opposing euthanasia? Forgive me, are you actually familiar with the PD electorate which include Catholics on pastoral committees, nuns and parish priests? In your opinion, what does that electorate want from Renzi? It is obvious: “homosexual marriage” and “lesbian-democratic” adoptions. Have you ever listened to the average worker who votes for the left? In your opinion, do they want the defense of natural marriage or do they want council houses for our brother-homosexuals so horribly discriminated against? Let’s stop believing that the problem is Niki Vendola* or the ugly, bad, communist extremists and that it is important to be moderate; the points of reference for the average man are Fabio Fazio* and Luciana Littizzetto*, the Coop, Gino Strada*, Enzo Bianchi* and Eugenio Scalfari*. Renzi puts all these ingredients into his blender, mixes them with doses of homoeopathy from Don Ciotti* and Don Gallo*, and the result is the perfect brew which holds the “little democratic parish” and the Arcigay together. To expect something different from him would be stupid.

The scandal, forgive me, is another. Compared to Renzi - the Secretary of the PD who winks at the homosexuals, the scandal is in listening to the exponents of the New Centre Right who are saying: “Civil unions are not a priority for the government”. Do you get it? It is not that the NCD jumps up like a spring and declares: we shall never vote for these unions – ever! No: he says that they are not a priority. Someone meets Hitler who is talking about wanting to construct gas chambers. Does he reply like this: “Look, Adolf, this is not a priority.” We will do that, we will do that too, all in good time”?

I watched government minister, Hon. Lupi – a Catholic, who explained the situation on a Rai News program. With a very embarrassed face and the terrified eyes of one who is thinking (but I could be mistaken) : “Damn it! Now I have to talk about the non-negotiable principles and homosexuals, and I’ll end up like Pietro Barilla. I’ll have to leave my strategic and important ministry, where I can do so much good for my country and my movement. And then Lupi takes refuge in that well-known theme called ”priorities”, like all of the other lion-hearts in Angiolino and Roccella’s party: no, civil unions are not a priority.

Obviously there’s worse: on the same News programme, there was Scelta Civica (Civic Choice) saying: we have to defend the rights of homosexual people. Scelta Civica, I believe, is that same party created in a rage by Todi 1* and Todi 2*, which the Italian bishops had erected as a new bulwark for the non-negotiable values under the ‘very Catholic’ leadership of Mario Monti. Then we have the worst of the worst. In the same News, there was a ‘lady’ belonging to Forza Italia who triumphantly announced that they would have put their proposals for homosexual rights together with those of Renzi. I heard a distant roll of drums against civil unions from Salvini’s Lega and even more feebly from the Fratelli d’ Italia. The end.

No, dear Director, my problem is not Matteo Renzi.

My problem is the Catholic Church. The problem is that on the subject of the worldwide outbreak of the homosexual lobby, the Church has fallen silent. We have silence from the Pope to the humblest priest in the peripheries. And if the Pope speaks, the day after Padre Lombardi has to rectify, specify, clarify and differentiate. Please abstain from dusting off letters and declarations made by Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio ten years ago. If I find out today that my son takes drugs, what should I say to him: “go and re-read the joint declaration made by me and your mother six years ago when we told you not to take drugs”? Or would I face him and try to shake him immediately as best I can?

Dear Director, where are the Episcopal Conference and the bishops in this battle? A deafening silence has fallen upon them. Actually, no: Monsignor Domenico Mogavero, Bishop of Mazara del Vallo, ex-under-secretary to the CEI and canonist – no less – spoke – oh, and how he spoke:

The law cannot ignore hundreds and thousands of people cohabitating. It is right that cohabitating couples be recognized also in Italy without putting them on equal terms with families.” For Mogavero, “The State can and must protect the pact that two cohabitants have made between themselves. In contrast to Christian mercy and universal rights – note well - two cohabitants don’t exist for the law. Today, if one of the two is taken to hospital, the other is even denied in the lending care or receiving medical information, as if they were an outsider.” The Bishop concludes: “I think it is legitimate to recognize rights such as the reversibility of pensions or the transfer of rent in virtue of the person’s importance. It is unsustainable – Mogavero underlines – that the cohabiter is a Mr. Nobody for the law.” And as regards the Church, for which Pope Francis has invited reflection on this theme, in view of the extraordinary Synod on the Family, “without equating them to married couples, there are no obstacles to common-law unions.” Amen.

Do you get it, dear Director? Shortly they’ll take my son of seven and at school they’ll make him play with condoms and his genitals, and what does the Church talks about with me? About boatloads which sink near Lampedusa, about Jesus who was a refugee, about an obscure Jesuit of the 17th century just beatified!
No, my problem is not Matteo Renzi.

Dear Director, where is the Archbishop of Milan, Angelo Scola in this battle?

Shortly they will stop us from saying and writing that homosexuality is against nature, and Scola talks to me about half-castes and of the need to understand and value the Roma culture. And again, it was the Archbishop of Milan some weeks ago who invited the Archbishop of Vienna, Schönborn, to our Cathedral: as the Church is disappearing in Austria, they asked him to come and explain to the priests of our diocese how to obtain such results - what their secret was. Just like this: a coach has brought his team to fall down on the league, and so we’ll give him the teaching post at Coverciano! [The central training ground and technical headquarters of the Italian National Football Team.]

And would you look at the coincidence, among other things: Schönborn – who wears the habit of St. Dominic and Thomas Aquinas – came to explain to the Ambrosian priests that he had personally intervened in protecting the nomination of two homosexuals for a parish council. Schönborn says he met them and: “I saw two pure young men, even if their cohabitation is not what the order of creation has foreseen.” There you have it, dear Director, this is purity according to a prince of the Church at the dawn of the year 2014.

And my problem should be Matteo Renzi and the PD?

They are going to take my seven-year-old son and brainwash him into thinking that homosexuality is normal and in the meantime, my Archbishop invites a bishop to the Cathedral to teach me that two homosexuals living together are examples of purity?

And so to finish. The Matteo Renzi who promotes civil unions is a physiological byproduct of a Pope who, in his travels is interviewed by journalists on the plane and declares: “Who am I to judge” etc, etc. Obviously, I know too that these two are not of the same nature, that the Pope is against these things and certainly suffers regarding them, and that he is motivated by good intentions. However, facts are facts. Confronted with that little sentence – epochal from the mouth of a Pope “Who am I to judge”–,  loads of corrective and reparatory articles can be written, which tireless troops of “normalists” have been doing now for months, in order to say, don’t worry all is well – everything is just fine.

But we both know well, and anyone else who knows the mechanisms of communications does as well, that, that “Who am I to judge” is a tombstone on any political and legal battle regarding the recognition of homosexual rights. If we were in rugby, I would tell you that that little sentence gained in a few seconds more meters in favour of the homosexual lobby, than decades of work by the world’s homosexual movement. I’ll tell you too, that bishops like Mogavero, in the shade of that little sentence “who am I to judge” can build castles of dissolution without impunity, and the only thing left for us to do is to keep our mouths shut.

Point: The Inevitable Pope

a guest-post by Fr. Richard Cipolla, DPhil

(See also: Counterpoint: Santità, mi scusi: An Open Letter)

The media is awash with positive fascination with Pope Francis. Secular blogs known for their hostility to the Catholic Church are effusive in their approval of Papa Bergoglio in whom they see as the man who will transform the Catholic Church into a religious version of liberal secularism. But whatever adjectives one applies to Pope Francis, the most apt is really “inevitable”. That the Church should have a Pope like Francis was inevitable, for he is the first Pope who is a product of the post-Vatican II Church. His two predecessors, Blessed Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI, were products of a pre-Conciliar Church. They were trained for the priesthood and were ordained immediately after World War II. They were formed by what one could call a classical preparation for the priesthood. While it is true that both of Pope Francis’ predecessors played significant roles in the Second Vatican Council, they were not formed by the Council. They were the last Popes to have an institutional memory of the Church before Vatican II. And so it is not surprising that both John Paul and Benedict made doctrinal continuity an important aspect of their respective papacies.

Pope Francis is the first Pope who was ordained priest after the Second Vatican Council. His whole ministry in the Church has been in the post-Conciliar time. He was ordained in 1969, four years after the close of the Second Vatican Council. Thus the beginning of his ministry in the Church took place in that decade after the Council that was marked by upheaval, confusion, and rapid change both in the Church and in the Western world. The Jesuit order, of which he was and is a member, was in many ways an icon of that tumultuous time in the Church’s history. Under Pedro Arrupe, named Father General of the Jesuits in the year the Council closed, the Jesuits cast off their image as the brilliant soldiers of the Pope to take on an image of revolutionaries, both in the ecclesial and worldly sense. Their espousement of liberation theology, their active involvement in opposing oppressive governments, and their anti-authoritarian attidues gained them the admiration of some, as well as the public rebuke of Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II. Like so many religious orders, they experienced a real decimation in their ranks, from which they still have not recovered.

Pope Francis’ inevitability is not merely temporal, that sooner or later someone ordained after Vatican II would become Pope. His inevitability has a deeper meaning: that the foment and confusion and both spiritual and ecclesial amnesia that marked the decades of the 60s and 70s are once again present. It is back to the future in many ways. The church leaders of those heady days are coming back out of hiding. In Rome, a city having an uncanny sense of shifts in direction, those who found the last two papacies oppressive with their insistence on St. Augustine’s dictum, “Love and do what you will”, think that they can again act according to their own version of the great saint’s directive: “Do what you will and call it love”. Those who chafed under the insistence on continuity and Tradition of John Paul and Benedict now can proclaim what they have always believed: that the last two papacies were mere aberrations, just a temporary holding back of the inevitable apotheosis of the Zeitgeist of Vatican II that will usher in an age of peace, joy and love without the encumbrances of doctrinal and moral authority.

But I would caution them to not take their white bell-bottomed trousers out of the closet yet and start singing “Stayin’ alive”. Papa Bergoglio has surprised the Church and the world in many ways these past few months. And these surprises are part of his inevitability. But it is obvious that he is a man of great faith who understands the command to love and who takes his role in the Church seriously. So it is inevitable that he will grow into his role from being merely the bishop of Rome to the job of governing the Church in the footsteps of Peter as the Vicar of Christ on earth. And that should be no surprise.

Pope on Traditional groups: "Pelagian current. It's like turning back 60 years! They count rosaries... Please, don't laugh."

[Second part: Pope to CLAR: "Yes, there is a 'gay lobby' in the Curia."]
[Third part: full transcript]

The Pope had an audience with the presiding board of the CLAR (the Latin American and Caribbean Confederation of Religious Men and Women - Confederación Latinoamericana y Caribeña de Religiosos y Religiosas) on June 6, 2013 (image above, with three sisters and three male religious). It was a private audience, so no transcript was provided, but those who were present were kind enough to provide the words of His Holiness, made available at the Chilean ultra-progressive website Reflexión y Liberación (Reflection and Liberation).

The excerpt that mentions Traditional Catholic groups is the one below (the ellipses are part of the original long transcript, as provided by CLAR):

I share with you two concerns. One is the Pelagian current that there is in the Church at this moment. There are some restorationist groups. I know some, it fell upon me to receive them in Buenos Aires. And one feels as if one goes back 60 years! Before the Council... One feels in 1940... An anecdote, just to illustrate this, it is not to laugh at it, I took it with respect, but it concerns me; when I was elected, I received a letter from one of these groups, and they said: "Your Holiness, we offer you this spiritual treasure: 3,525 rosaries." Why don't they say, 'we pray for you, we ask...', but this thing of counting... And these groups return to practices and to disciplines that I lived through - not you, because you are not old - to disciplines, to things that in that moment took place, but not now, they do not exist today...

The second [concern] is for a Gnostic current. Those Pantheisms... Both are elite currents, but this one is of a more educated elite... I heard of a superior general that prompted the sisters of her congregation to not pray in the morning, but to spiritually bathe in the cosmos, things like that... They concern me because they ignore the incarnation! And the Son of God became our flesh, the Word was made flesh, and in Latin America we have flesh abundantly [de tirar al techo]! What happens to the poor, their pains, this is our flesh...

[Source: Reflexion y Liberacion; tip: reader]

Buenos Aires Winter,
or
Sorry, but that is absolutely not true


Astor Piazzolla
Invierno Porteño [Buenos Aires Winter]

It seems unwise to go back, two months after the papal election, to what used to happen liturgically in the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires up to early March 2013. But, for some reason, ACI Prensa director and EWTN Spanish news editor Alejandro Bermúdez, wanted to revisit the matter which, in our opinion, should just have been left alone. It seems that the then-Archbishop was a kind of liturgical hardliner, going to the extreme of forbidding priests who apparently wanted to consecrate sweet potato from doing so.

Anyway, moving on from the novus ordo to our concern, the Traditional Mass, this is what Mr. Bermúdez had to say:

"Following Summorum Pontificum, he made the traditional Mass readily available. In fact, Buenos Aires is probably the Latin-American city with the largest number of Masses celebrated in the extraordinary form."

This assertion is absolutely unbelievable. Not only does he insist on a matter we already showed to be mistaken, repeatedly, but he ups the ante by affirming that, "Buenos Aires is probably the Latin-American city with the largest number of Masses celebrated in the extraordinary form". (!!!!)

Assuming the situation at this moment is still as it was on March 13, 2013, and considering only diocesan ("Summorum Pontificum") Masses, the truth is exactly the opposite of what is affirmed by Bermúdez: Buenos Aires, that is, the city of Buenos Aires (the Federal Capital of Argentina, or Autonomous City of Buenos Aires, whose area exactly coincides with that of the Archdiocese, and that should not be confused with the surrounding Province of Buenos Aires, and corresponding surrounding dioceses) has NO diocesan Traditional Mass. None. Zilch. Nada. There are Traditional Masses in the city, but they are celebrated by the Society of Saint Pius X...

That makes the city of Buenos Aires certainly the most relevant city in the region with no current diocesan TLM. It also probably is the largest city proper with no diocesan TLM in the region: the largest cities proper in the region are Sao Paulo, Mexico City, Lima, Bogota, Rio de Janeiro, and Santiago de Chile, and every single one of them has at least one diocesan TLM. (We are using "city proper" as a reference here because, as we explained in that same post, there are indeed two diocesan TLMs in the huge urban sprawl of the Metropolitan Area of Buenos Aires, the third largest in the region, but both are in neighboring municipalities in the surrounding Province -- partidos --, in dioceses outside the jurisdiction of the Archbishop of Buenos Aires.)

As for the city with the largest number of Traditional Masses in Latin America? Almost certainly that distinction goes to Campos dos Goytacazes, in the state of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, seat of the Apostolic Administration St. John Mary Vianney, dedicated exclusively to the Traditional Roman Rite - several TLMs daily. Excluding this unique situation, the position is probably held by Sao Paulo, also in Brazil (apparently, and as also seems to be confirmed by those contributing information to WikiMissa).

We sincerely hope we do not have to repeat this in the future.

NCR report from Argentina: "He did, in fact, favor civil unions."

We have come to a sad time when NCR at least strives to have more accurate reporting than some "conservative" blogs and publications: 

Congress of the Argentine Nation, Buenos Aires

On March 19, The New York Times reported that when Argentina was gearing up for a bitter national debate on gay [sic] marriage in 2009 and 2010, Bergoglio quietly favored a compromise solution that would have included civil unions for same-sex couples.

A strong and determined Pontiff

NCR's resident newsmaker John Allen Jr. has spent a week in Argentina trying to find out who the real Jorge Mario Bergoglio is. In his concluding text, he says:

[M]ost early profiles of Pope Francis describe him as a theological and political conservative, largely based on two points of his biography: that he resisted some expressions of liberation theology as a Jesuit provincial in the 1970s, and that he’s had a rocky relationship with the center-left government of Argentine President Cristina Kirchner, especially over the issue of gay marriage.

While both things are true, people who know the lay of the land here insist there’s little meaningful sense in which Bergoglio could be described as a “conservative”, at least as measured by the standards of the church.

He did not need to go all the way to Buenos Aires to find out about that... If he had read Rorate in 2006, he would have found that out:

If Cardinal Bergoglio is considered a "conservative" in Argentina, one can only guess what an Argentinian "progressive" is like.

One thing seems to be agreed by all sources, including Argentinian newspapers, Italian reports, those interviewed by other media in the past few weeks: Jorge Mario Bergoglio is a man of steely convictions and determination, possibly the strongest Bishop of Rome since at least Pius XI, possibly the pope with the most hands-on approach since Saint Pius X, and who will not change one bit the man he has always been. Which is why his past and the way he acted in the past greatly matter. He is also, as we have said before, a highly liturgical pope, and he will make all efforts to make his liturgical vision stick.

By the way, Allen had a good-humored exchange with Pope Bergoglio's sister that reveals much of the Pope's personality, something already remarked in this blog:

When he was younger, wasn’t he also fond of a parakeet?

Yes, when he was in the novitiate, they had a parakeet and Jorge loved it. He taught it to say some things … knowing him, it probably wasn’t a prayer but some sort of insult!

Bergoglio's practical attitude towards Liberation Theology - and a note

Provincial Sup. Bergoglio and
novice Mom Debussy
Miguel Ignacio Mom Debussy is an Argentine citizen - it is unclear what he does for a living now, but he is a descendant of the most powerful landowning family (the Pueyrredon family) in a historically agrarian country. What he is famous for, however, is for what he was: a Jesuit for 14 years, and a priest for a couple of years, and very close to Fr. Jorge Mario Bergoglio during most of that time, apparently even working as a kind of secretary/driver. He left the priesthood, and the Society, officially in 1990, and now says he is "agnostic" - and obviously does not like his former friend.

He granted an extensive interview to Italian website Linkiesta - wanting to be clearly critical, but providing instead precious and good information on the new pope. The main focus of the interview is on how Fr. Bergoglio acted during the last Argentine dictatorship, mostly in the line of "he could/should have done more".*** Mom Debussy mentions many aspects that indicate a general distrust of Bergoglio in the Society in Argentina. But one of his most relevant answers is the following:

What was the position Bergoglio had then regarding Liberation Theology?
Completely against it. In fact, as Theology students, we had never studied a single book by, for instance, Gustavo Gutiérrez, one of the founders of Liberation Theology, of by [Leonardo] Boff, or by Paulo Freire, with his studies on an education that is not a cultural "dependency" [of the "imperialistic powers"]. In Philosophy, we had read little, very little, of Heidegger and Kierkegaard, one single chapter of Thus Spoke Zarathustra... Not to mention Marx, Engels, Sartre, Foucault, the Post-Moderns, etc. Nothing that could contradict Catholic doctrine or dogmas. All that under strict orders of Jorge Bergoglio.

***Rorate note: Right in the middle of the upheaval that agitated Argentina in the 1960s and 1970s, with great violence from both sides - initiated first by Communist and Liberation-theology-inspired terrorist organizations-, a Church that had once been deeply traditional but was now battered by the winds of Vatican II and the Medellín Conference was apparently falling apart. Very few managed to keep their calm, and that certainly seems to have been the case of the Provincial Superior of the Jesuits in 1973-1979, Fr. Jorge Mario Bergoglio, though it was not the case of many of his colleagues in the Society of Jesus, who still criticize him for never having "criticized or opposed the government" (see). He did not, and that is actually to his great merit.

Father Bergoglio, in disgrace for years for disagreements with the Society's leadership?...
Update: Panorama reports, Il Sismografo denies

Ultra-"progressive" Italian Jesuit Fr. Felice Scalia wrote an article of what the new papacy means for Jesuits for Adista (the "progressive" news agency whose symbol is a saint hugging a devil). Well, for Jesuits like him. One of the main points, after disowning the legacy of Pope John Paul II, is the following:

[N]ow it will be possible to review the history of Fr. Pedro Arrupe, the great victim of the misunderstandings between the Holy See of Pope Wojtyla and the Society of Jesus ... . In heaven, Fr. Pedro will joyfully exult with us.

Maybe. Now, this is curious because Fr. Jorge Mario Bergoglio, provincial of Argentina, seemed to have been himself, at least in a second stage of his provincial leadership, and then for 15 years after that, more a victim than a supporter of Society leadership (maybe including Arrupe, or just in the Kolvenbach years?...). Ignazio Ingrao reports for Italian weekly Panorama:

With a letter, the Superior General of the Society blocked Bergoglio from being received

Marginalized by his own Jesuit brothers, forced for six years to be a confessor in a church in Cordoba, more than 700 km from Buenos Aires, and even forbidden from visiting other Jesuit communities. The story of the relationship between Jorge Mario Bergoglio and the Society founded by Saint Ignatius of Loyola is very painful. There is even a letter of the Superior General of the Society, Dutchman Peter Hans Kolvenbach, that establishes an express prohibition to other houses and communities to receive Bergoglio, at any moment he might have wished to leave the church assigned to him in Cordoba. A true a proper ostracism, that takes place within the most difficult and troubles years of the Society, guided first by Spanish Father Pedro Arrupe, then intervened by John Paul II through Father Paolo Dezza, then returned to the hands of Father Kolvenbach.

His sister Marta and his brother-in-law Enrico Narvaja were direct witnesses of those difficult years for Father Bergoglio: the enfant prodige, chosen Provincial superior of Argentina at 37, destined to a brilliant career, seemed to have been definitely set apart up to when he was 50.

Guarding the Kolvenbach letter and the memory of these painful family events today is Pope Francis's nephew, Father José Luis Narvaja, also a Jesuit, director of the Thomas Falkner institute for the study of sources, professor of theology and patristics in Salvador [Universidad del Salvador, Buenos Aires], in Frankfurt and at the Gregorian University in Rome.

The "sin" of Bergoglio was that to have first sided with Arrupe, than turning decisively against him, so far as to leave the leadership of the Province in 1979. [Rorate note: note, however, that this came at the end of the usual 6-year term for Jesuit provincials.] But the strongly identitarian [Jesuit] position and the deep disagreement with Liberation Theology by Bergoglio ended up being in full agreement with John Paul II and the Prefect for the Doctrine of the Faith, Joseph Ratzinger. For this reason, Karol Wojtyla lifts Bergoglio from oblivion and, at 56, names him auxiliary bishop of Buenos Aires, at the suggestion of Cardinal Antonio Quarracino. A new life begins for the Argentine Jesuit that will lead him up to the throne of Peter. The long audience, soon after his election, with the current Superior General of the Jesuits, Adolfo Nicolas, fails nevertheless to completely conceal the embarrassment with which some old adversaries of Bergoglio in the Society have received his election. ...

[Update - Il Sismografo posted the following: "In an article published in Panorama on April 3, by Ignazio Ingrao, titled 'When the Jesuits marginalized him', and anticipated in the blog of the same author, a supposed letter sent by the previous Father General of the Jesuits, Peter Hans Kolvenbach, is mentioned, with the prohibition for the houses of Argentine Jesuits 'to receive Father Bergoglio when he wished to leave the church assigned to him in Cordoba.' The affirmation is not only completely implausible, but it is absolutely false, because such a letter has never existed. Both the Jesuit Curia, where the [record of the] sending of such a letter is not found, and Father José Luis Narvaja, mentioned by 'Panorama' as the custodian of such letter, and that denied ever having made declarations to 'Panorama', deny this. The official in charge of the Press Office of the Jesuit Curia, Father Giuseppe Bellucci, also notes that the permanence in Cordoba of then-Father Bergoglio was not of six years, as mentioned in the article, but two."

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In other news: the first Bergoglio appointment to a curial position was made today, as he named the Minister General of the Friars Minor, Spaniard José Rodríguez Carballo, OFM, Secretary of the Congregation for Religious (Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life).